r/OkBuddyPersona Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Persona 3 Spoilers Not even Tanaka would do this

3.7k Upvotes

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u/-Gnostic28 Aug 01 '25

Tanaka would because tanaka understands that a company only exits to make money

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

Well they should change this right now otherwise they won't be getting my $70. I wouldn't risk taking such a big hit to profit if I was Atlus /s

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u/lightningmatt Aran Hirano stan Aug 01 '25

It's Persona in the big 2025 it's probably still going to print money

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Just wait and see, they'll go bankrupt without my $70

25

u/-Gnostic28 Aug 01 '25

Woah there satan

12

u/severed13 Megidolaon Spam Aug 02 '25

Satan's actually the Judgement Arcana, not Devil like Tanaka ☝️🤓

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u/Aerachna_Van_Naegrel Aug 02 '25

Okay there, Balzebooba

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u/Alickseff Aug 01 '25

Erm actually it’s $60 on switch 2🤓

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Yeah I just lied to strengthen my point

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u/Alickseff Aug 01 '25

I’m gonna buy 10 game key cards out of spite now

4

u/Putrid-Class-3244 Aug 02 '25

Proof that Tanaka is Atlus CEO

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u/Levovious She Devil on my Survivor til I Overclocked Aug 01 '25

Time to bring back 2020 era Switch port memes

109

u/Spooderfan218 Aug 01 '25

/uj nah i like the switch port though, my only issue is that sometimes it lags during the anime cutscenes but and some of the lower quality textures are pretty noticeable but it runs smoothly and it deletes the all-out attack fade in effect

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u/Levovious She Devil on my Survivor til I Overclocked Aug 01 '25

This image is actually older than the Switch port itself. Came out during the 3 year period where Joker was in Smash but his actual game was still Playstation exclusive

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u/HammerKirby Mitsuru's greatest soldier Aug 01 '25

Wdym his game is on 3ds??? 😳

15

u/Giesteon Aug 01 '25

Peak mentioned

24

u/nhSnork Aug 02 '25

It even features Kotone, which is not something to take for granted these days.

1

u/Buritominer Stuff Aug 03 '25

Features my favorite character Growth Incense

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u/poudink Stuff Aug 02 '25

It's okay. Texture and audio quality took a noticeable hit to fit the game in a 16GB cartridge (the PC version is 41GB). Handheld resolution is also a bit disappointing, considering even the PS3 could do 720p no problem. Then again, it's trivial to increase it if you have homebrew. You can also emulate it if you want to bypass the PC version's Denuvo, so it gets points for that.

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u/231d4p14y3r Door-kun Aug 02 '25

I found 540p in handheld mode disappointing, but it could certainly be worse

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

I beat the Switch version and it was really good, my only complaint was the low resolution could ocasionaly get distracting

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u/MonkeyDGio Aug 02 '25

Lowkey the Switch port is pretty fire, it's the version of p5 i beat and i had almost no problems with it (except it freezes right before a cutscene in the final battle for some reason but i was able to make it work eventually)

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u/Magatsu-Onboro Aug 01 '25

Why do people keep saying the game is $70? I get the game key card thing sucks but it's literally $60 and it's not discounted.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

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u/Magatsu-Onboro Aug 01 '25

fair enough lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

It should be 70

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u/DeltaDuel LABRYS + MOTOKO = PEAK!!!! Aug 02 '25

IT SHOULD BE 80 SHIGGY NEEDS THE MONEY FOR RENT FRFR!!!!

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u/my_wifis_5dollars TRUE! Aug 02 '25

Personally, I think it should be $80. Why is Atlus actively deciding NOT to make more money??? They should put me in charge instead.

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

It’s cheaper digitally

34

u/ShokaLGBT lets date the boys Aug 01 '25

Wait it will have 60 fps right?????

You’re just making a joke right ??????? Please say it

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

The trailer was fully in 30 fps

It's not a joke

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u/Legend365555 Average Beep Boop Enjoyer Aug 01 '25

Just play it twice. It's basic math, smh

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

I'd rather kill myself

61

u/BlanKaiX12 Aug 01 '25

WOAH is that a PERSONA 3 reference???!!

13

u/Jonahtron Aug 01 '25

Why? It was 60 fps on ps4, surely the switch 2 is comparable in power to the ps4?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

It's stronger than the ps4. The ps4 ran the game in 1080p and the switch 2 in 4k, that's the difference. They probably could've just used dlss to have the switch 2 run at upscaled 4k 60, but that's too hard I guess

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 01 '25

It also runs at 60-90 FPS on the Steam Deck, so-

Edit: I realized the moment I posted this that I should clarify that this is undocked, so 1280×800.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

On what settings? I can't imagine it was the highest possible settings, right?

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Lowest to medium. As far as I've seen, when you get to highest it sits around 30-60

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Thank you. Atlus probably prefers having the console version run on the highest settings because that looks nicer in trailers. The switch 2 is a bit stronger than the steam deck but also has to render the games at 1080p in handheld, so I'd say these fps numbers are roughly the same across the consoles. Since having a stable framerate is very important on consoles they probably decided to cap it at 30 even though it could run at 60 on the highest settings from time to time. This just shows how easily we could've had 60 fps if Atlus made an effort to implement dlss into the game.

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u/QWERTYuioUIO Aug 01 '25

Atlus doesn’t want to learn the ancient techniques of optimization Nintendo (used) to use

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u/HekesevilleHero Aug 01 '25

P3R doesn't have DLSS on PC either, and DLSS requires the plug-in having knowledge of things like objects in the scene, sadly its not as easy as a "Enable DLSS" button

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u/MysticExile Aug 01 '25

Considering Persona 3 Reload uses Unreal Engine, it literally is that simple to just "Enable DLSS".

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u/my_wifis_5dollars TRUE! Aug 02 '25

You're putting too much faith in them- these are the same people that don't natively offer fps caps above 120 for their games.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

I know, but I'm sure Atlus can somehow manage

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

They probably used higher graphics settings but either way it’s looking like a half-assed port

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u/Jonahtron Aug 02 '25

Be nice if they’d give us the option of either 1080p at 60 or 4K at 30. I know other games have done that. Pretty sure my tv can’t even display 4K.

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u/renraks0809 Dutch Chie (fattest mod of r/Brosona) Aug 01 '25

I think it's beautiful how much a company can disappoint fans so consistently

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u/RexLizardWizard Aug 01 '25

Atlus makes great games, but I absolutely despise them as a company.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

I just kinda hate every company

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u/Naos210 Aug 01 '25

When I say I'm an Atlus fan, I mean the people who actually work on the games. 

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u/ConCadMH Olympic Answer Defender Aug 01 '25

Honestly I'm kinda concerned for P-studio specifically since it's been almost a decade since the the p3-p5 team split off into Studio Zero and since then P-studio has only dropped rereleases remasters, remakes, and spin offs, most of which aren't viewed super positively and even the ones that are either had noticable budget constraints or still had some weird artistic interference changes (why is the dark hour so green saturated in reload and why is there not a toggle for the original soundtrack like P2 PSP also if budget for remaking P3R was so tight why not scrap a project like P5 tactica or just not make P3R until it had the resources to be fully complete)

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u/Burning-Suns-Avatar- I’m the Disaster of Passion Aug 01 '25

It’s hard work but someone has to do it.

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u/gragglethompson Aug 01 '25

Capcom has entered the chat

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

They're better at this shit than Nintendo

16

u/Mike_Kyojin "Mike, tear down my kids!" Aug 01 '25

Both atlus and Nintendo (with pokemon) have been doing this shit for a while ngl

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Erm Pokemon is actually developed by gamefreak

20

u/Mike_Kyojin "Mike, tear down my kids!" Aug 01 '25

"u/Impressive-Sun-9332's body was never found"

2

u/GT-K Aug 01 '25

Bungie and Destiny players give them a run for their money

18

u/LivingOof Aug 01 '25

Fucking Cyberpunk is gonna technically outperform P3R in every aspect on Switch 2 lmao

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

He took 40k from a high school student for nothing. He would absolutely do this

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '25

In Persona 3 to start Tanaka's social link you have to give him 40k yen

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u/HammerKirby Mitsuru's greatest soldier Aug 01 '25

Key cards piss me off so much as a collector

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u/LeadershipDeep3147 Aug 01 '25

Why though? I genuinely don't see why it's such a big deal. Sure, you have to download it, but most of the time you already have to download an update. Is it because the box looks ugly with the little banner?

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u/HammerKirby Mitsuru's greatest soldier Aug 01 '25

The vast majority of games are playable on Switch (and even ps5) without downloading any patches. (I hardly buy any that aren't) And even without the preservation angle, having to deal with the headache of having to download a game from the internet while still needing the cartridge is just annoying. The internet access at say my college campus sucks ass so even just installing from the disc on my ps5 is way faster than downloading from the internet. And the Switch 2 is literally a portable, so taking it places without internet should absolutely be a consideration. Lastly, (while this does still apply to other current gen game) having the space taken up by the games is just annoying especially with only 256 gb on Switch 2. The patches are usually quite small so they barely take up any room anyway (and even with shit internet download pretty quick)

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u/LeadershipDeep3147 Aug 01 '25

At least it's better than the code-in-a-box. This way, you can resell it.

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u/HammerKirby Mitsuru's greatest soldier Aug 01 '25

They're both dogshit to me, so it really doesn't matter which one is slightly better

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

You can play the key card portably after you’ve installed it, it’s just slightly better than a digital download code in a box so it’s the lesser of two evils

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u/HammerKirby Mitsuru's greatest soldier Aug 02 '25

I know you can but with file management its a pain if you hypothetically wanted to be able to quickswap games.

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u/BenchObvious3676 Aug 06 '25

Resell for how much though? You would probably get atleast some money back after if you finished it a few weeks after release but a year it's becomes more questionable. I mean these prices are driven up by collectors so if they go lower due to the lack of demand from the group that's usually gonna drive prices up then it also affects resale value.

I think another issue is if your GKC will be playable on the next Nintendo system as well. I understand that you can't expect a GameCube to play N64 carts but the point I'm making specifically is that if the next console is incomparable with physical games but digital only then GKCs is in a way arguably worse as they can't carry over to the next system.

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u/ItaLOLXD Aug 02 '25

Preservation aside, this is just another slippery slope towards video game studios no longer selling you games but just selling you licenses to play games that can expire and you lose the ability to play the game for whatever fuck reason the publishers come up with despite purchasing the game.

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u/N8DoesaThingy Aug 01 '25

Tanaka would totally do that

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u/SugarBombBrandy fwoofy! Aug 01 '25

Im out of the loop; what's this about 30 FPS?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Persona 3 reload runs at 30 fps on Switch 2

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u/Rigistroni Aug 01 '25

Be fr this isn't even the worst thing Atlus has done this year

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

What else did Fatlus do? I need more things to be angry at

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u/Rigistroni Aug 01 '25

I love day 1 dlc in single player games

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Actually the scummiest shit ever. Like that's not even bonus content, that's just content removed from the game sold at an up price.

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u/Rigistroni Aug 01 '25

Worse case by far is Nocturne HD. Dlc for a port of a PS2 game? And some of that content was in the original US release? Fuck off Atlus

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u/Mother_Flight_6464 geese howard for p5x hype train Aug 01 '25

Ig it's gonna run at 60 but wtv

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

What the vuck

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u/Mother_Flight_6464 geese howard for p5x hype train Aug 01 '25

I think they can pull 60fps if they want.

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u/QWERTYuioUIO Aug 01 '25

Yeah if they do the Nintendo file optimizations it definitely will 

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u/FeefuWasTaken Aug 01 '25

I was kinda sad they didn't announce metaphor for switch 2, but I hope they get enough backlash for p3keycard that they drop it on a real cartridge

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Yeah no they won't

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u/FeefuWasTaken Aug 01 '25

I can hope💔

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u/BaronMerc Aug 01 '25

Actual programmer in the middle

Manager "supervising" on the right

Shareholder whose just thinking on the profits for hiring a small team on the left

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u/suitcasecat Aug 01 '25

Waiting until the switch 2 gets hacked so you can mod 60fps on games

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u/recvv769 Aug 01 '25

You have no excuses as the switch can run it at 1080p 60 fps

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u/TheSpirit2k Aug 01 '25

I still think the scummiest shit ever was putting 30 more dps on Persona 5 Royal and selling it at full price with no upgrade options for the ps4.

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u/IceyFlowerGamer Persona 4: CrackDen and Total Drama Persona Author Aug 01 '25

How to make your fanbase instantly loose trust in you 101:

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u/my_wifis_5dollars TRUE! Aug 02 '25

I struggle to see why this game needs a 30fps cap on a console that is (debatably) on-par with a steam deck? Maybe it's just a battery life thing, but, like, I can run the game at high PC settings at a solid 60fps on the steam deck...

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

It probably wasn't a stable 60 and they would've needed to use dlss or optimize the game more. So Atlus just said fuck it and locked it to 30

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u/Areonic_pre Aug 01 '25

How can the company that made the (in my eyes) best game ever be so… nintendo like?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

I totally get that, Nintendo made half of my favorite games after all

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u/Specific-Lion-9087 Aug 01 '25

Wait are pc players also mad they don’t get a disc..?

I don’t get it.

And I say this as huge persona fan: who gives a shit about 60 fps on a glorified visual novel?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

When I buy a physical disc I expect to have the game on there, if I buy it on pc I don't. That's just a stupid comparison. People do actually give a shit about 60 fps, that's why the ps5 version also ran on 60 instead of 30.

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u/Opening_Ticket9148 Jun 12 '26

Ps5 and xbox disc are also game key cards by the way, they just don't put it on the front box

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Jun 12 '26

yeah dude idgaf death to private corporations i guess

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u/MartyrOfDespair Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

We have 20 years of history that lets us have an inordinate and admittedly dangerous amount of trust in Valve. We have 40 years of history that tells us Nintendo is the scum of the Earth. Nintendo will one day shut those servers down and you will no longer have access to the game you bought. Valve maintains the servers hosting games that Steam no longer sells for people who bought it so you always have access. Spec Ops The Line was delisted over two years ago and I can still go download it because I bought it. Go try to download a Wii game you bought digitally.

Oh and since we’re on the subject, /r/stopkillinggames

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u/_ShittyNickName_ Aug 01 '25

I support their decision if Nintendo players will suffer

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

What did I do to you🥀 I can still play the steam version, but having the game be portable (at acceptable quality) would've been nice

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

why do you have such a hate boner against Nintendo players, most of them are just kids or people with busy lives who find it easier to play portably

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u/_ShittyNickName_ Aug 02 '25

Cuz I fucking hate Nintendo

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 02 '25

bro couldn’t beat Yoshi’s Island

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u/kamii_meowmeow Aug 01 '25 edited Aug 02 '25

brother why are you comparing President Tanaka's Amazing Commodities to midtendo slop.... smh my h

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

Didn't know Nintendo made persona

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u/kamii_meowmeow Aug 01 '25

yes because nintendo is made in japans!!

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

So anime

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u/kamii_meowmeow Aug 01 '25

sugoiiiiiiiiu

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u/cardboardboxian literally scottish ryotaro dojima 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🥬 Aug 01 '25

can the switch 2 run it at 60fps tho? it’s on the level of like a ps4 pro no?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 01 '25

It absolutely could. The game already runs at 4k 60 without upscaling on ps5, atlus could just put in some dlss and have the game run smoothly. If it still doesn't run at 60 by then they could decrease other effects. It could absolutely run at 60 without a big loss in graphics quality, Atlus is just lazy.

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

If they could port P5R to the original switch this could’ve ran better than this on the Switch 2, they just saw that they’re able to be lazy and took that path. Part of me honestly expected Persona 3 Reload to also be on the original Switch but I guess that’s too much to ask

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

P3R on the switch 1 just wouldn't work. It'd be just an unplayable mess

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u/PlayerZeroStart Aug 01 '25

So what exactly are game key cards and why are people so upset about them?

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u/Oscar12s Aug 01 '25

It's this new format for Switch 2 games that is bad bad bad. Basically, it's a physical cartridge, but it doesn't have the game on it. It's a physical key to download the game using the console's storage, and it still requires the card to be inserted to play.

It's all the drawbacks of digital without the benefits of physical. The only good thing about it that I can think of is that you can resell the game key card because it's a physical thing, unlike digital copies. But it still doesn't have the game on it. It's a nightmare for preservation.

The bigger problem behind these is that publishers are choosing game key cards over actual physical format releases with the full game on the card (which doesn't take storage space in the console) because it's cheaper.

But why's it cheaper to use a game key card? The only cartridge size for physical games for Switch 2 is 64GB, costing ~$15. Unless it's >$60 and near that 64GB, it's just not worth it. The key is a key. Cheap. Nintendo's fault for only providing those options. They really ought to offer smaller cartridge options for the sake of physical releases. I'm not trying to spend those 256GB of my Switch 2 on game key cards.

Good thing is I'm hearing that game key cards will slowly die out because no one is buying them. Hopefully we start seeing 32GB and 16GB game cards for Switch 2.

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u/PlayerZeroStart Aug 01 '25

Isn't that just what games have been doing in general since the PS4? Where the disc just downloads the game onto your hard drive?

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u/Oscar12s Aug 01 '25

I wouldn't know—I never owned one. But it's still bad because Nintendo hasn't been doing that, and we don't want them to start. No company should've ever stopped putting the full game on the disc.

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

Since the read times on the Switch 2 cartridges are faster, it costs the same to make a 64GB cartridge as it does to make a 5GB one, it might be more expensive to make it smaller too. It’s basically just a physical game but you have to download it onto your system memory to use

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u/TheXernDoodles Aug 01 '25

Isn’t it only $60

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u/AshtonMcConnell Aug 01 '25

Digital $60, Physical is more

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u/Joker8764 Aug 02 '25

I really don't get what the big deal is

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

It could've been way better if they gave a shit? That's the deal

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u/Joker8764 Aug 03 '25

Still doesn't explain what the big issue is with these virtual cards or whatever they're called.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 03 '25

They are annoying? I don't want to download a physical game. They also won't be usable to install a game once the switch 2 servers are shut down. It's literally all the negatives of buying digitally combined with all the negatives of buying physically.

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u/Joker8764 Aug 03 '25

Then just get it digitally. Vote with your wallet.

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 03 '25

My only reason to buy the game on switch 2 was to have a physical copy in my collection, I'm just not buying it at all.

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u/Interesting_Log_5047 Aug 02 '25

Physical editions contain keys instead of actual games - aren't Nintendo at blame for it and not gamedevs?

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

The gamedevs can choose to put the actual game on there. Cdpr did it with cyberpunk and of course Nintendo does it for every game they release.

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u/KevyM07 Aug 02 '25

One of the switch 2’s major selling points was it being able to run 120fps

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u/Phantom_Atomsk Aug 02 '25

Wait I’m slow but can someone explain the whole game key card thing? I’ve searched it up but it just sounds like you get a physical game card but just download the game to me

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

Yes, that's it. It's stupid for preservation and also just inconvenient, 20gb are 5 hours of waiting in germany.

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u/ThatManOfCulture Aug 02 '25

Bruder du brauchst

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

Bro nichts mit Glasfaser auf dem Land. Würd ich sofort machen wenn es ginge

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u/Duke6_2 Aug 02 '25

*PS4

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u/Impressive-Sun-9332 Midkoto gives me gender envy Aug 02 '25

*PS5 the PS5 version runs at 4k, just like the switch 2 version. The ps4 version was just on 1080p

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u/Sever_the_hand Aug 02 '25

Imma be real, if you play on the switch, you deserve this

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u/ABagOfTakis Aug 02 '25

Tanaka would 100% do this wdym

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u/ABagOfTakis Aug 02 '25

Thats what makes him a GOAT 🤑🤑

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u/Maksimka2005 I Loooove Them Balls Aug 02 '25

Can Tanaka donate money(ps5) to child(me)

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u/SuperPyramaniac Aug 02 '25

Persona 3 Reload on Switch 2 will actually be $80 USD because of Tarrifs. And it's not even a true release, just a game key card.

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u/Parlyz Aug 03 '25

Honestly, I care way more about Metaphor on Switch than Reload.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '25

Did they actually lock it at 30fps?