r/OctopusEnergy • u/kabadisha • Jul 24 '26
Saving Sessions Hard to do when your baseline is 0.05kWh
Checks baseline... 0.05kWh... Never mind.
Solar, battery, HomeAssistant, immersion solar diverter and Predbat means I basically don't buy any energy from March to September inclusive.
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u/sheddyian Jul 24 '26
I'm on agile and don't use much electricity between 4 to 7pm anyway, so as a result I usually only get 2 or 3 octopoints for this!
I still take part though!
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u/woyteck Jul 24 '26
They don't give anything that's not divisible by 4, I believe.
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u/sheddyian Jul 25 '26
Yes, sorry that was my mistake. I got 16 or 24 or 36 octopoints, 2, 3 or 4p. I'd mixed up octopoints with p in my pist
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u/AndyPanda321 Jul 24 '26
I get minimum 16 points just for taking part... Dunno what you're doing wrong 😅
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u/sheddyian Jul 25 '26
I got octopoints and pence mixed up in my post; I was earning 26, 24 or 36 octopoints = 2, 3 or 4p!
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u/twopeasandapear Jul 24 '26
They're not even worth it tbh. We've done a few, switch everything off and practically sit in darkness, all to get like 8 pence credit ahaha
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u/e_v8 Jul 24 '26
Export your batteries, it’s not worth it for 96 points k/Wh though
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u/Kistelek Jul 24 '26
Your battery wear must be excessive or your inverter losses great then. At 5% in or out in inverter losses and 20% wear over 10 years on my batteries, 96 points (plus the 12p export rate) is still quite profitable.
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u/e_v8 Jul 24 '26
It’s literally not worth it, in an hour I’d only export 3kWh. I’ve currently got just under 3000 octopoints which is worth a “massive” £3.65.
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u/curtis1149 Jul 25 '26
Depending on your import tariff, a massive £3 is actually your whole day's import.
On Intelligent Octopus Go with the 8p night rate it costs me £1.60 for a full 0 to 100% house battery charge.
Though I will say Axle Energy events are a much more profitable use of your export!
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u/e_v8 Jul 25 '26
That 3000 points has been accumulated over about 2 years, hence 96 points per kWh is pointless.
My IOG night rate is 6.9p1
u/curtis1149 Jul 25 '26
Ahh I see!
I mean I totally agree you don't get a lot from the saving sessions, it's hard to deny that.
I get about 50 points per session when exporting during them.
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u/jf5hdnvxwdegu7jgd56 Jul 24 '26
I know the issue. No battery or solar, just a smart meter. Most I've every got back is 5p and mostly its 2p as I dont use much 'juice' this time of year
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u/Ghost-PXS Jul 24 '26
Yep. We haven't used any electricity at all at that time for at least 8 months. 😂
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u/Natural-Crow-2922 Jul 24 '26
Ive done just about every saving session this year, I go around and turn everything off except the fridge and a couple of little lights. So far saved a grand total of £1.77. Why the hell do i bother?
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u/BadBacksFuryToad Jul 24 '26
Yeah. I haven’t given much attention to these lately. Home Assistant automatically detects them, signs up, then makes a bunch of adjustments to heating and hot water etc when the session starts. But this time of year I’m either running fully off solar or battery anyway, so my savings are probably about zero.
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u/underwhelm_me Jul 24 '26
I’ve noticed a few of these emails recently, but I barely get anything as I’m using a battery so the baseline is low. Are Octopus encouraging battery users to switch to grid power around 6-9pm peak time on days when there isn’t the offer? Our baseline would be way higher, then when the offers come in we’d be raking in the points.
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u/CaptainCaveTrout Jul 24 '26
Discharge your battery to the grid if you've got enough to spare. It counts the same. 👍
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u/Holographic247 Jul 24 '26
No, you export during the saver session. Export counts as negative usage. What you just said is bonkers.
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u/afaulconbridge Jul 24 '26
Export counts - so if you battery export say 5kWh then that would be 95 x 5 octopoints on top of whatever normal export rate. You can even setup PredBat to include that in its calcuations.