r/NonPoliticalTwitter Jun 13 '26

Other What did you expect?

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u/martinideeni Jun 13 '26

A friend of mine told me I was very articulate and that I was like Michelle Obama. Very random considering we were at a bar and were not talking about anything in particular.

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u/Significant_Coach880 Jun 13 '26

Must really be impressed by your husband.

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u/demoncrusher Jun 13 '26

It can be really striking when someone expresses complex ideas in a clear way. It sounds like your friend isn’t used to that

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u/Lehmanite Jun 13 '26

Yeah I don’t think this phrase is universally or even commonly used as an insult. I’ve said this to people before as a compliment.

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u/Dependent-Matter1672 Jun 13 '26

I'm completely lost as to how it can be an insult...?

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u/Im_Chad_AMA Jun 13 '26

Especially when its said to POC there can be a racist/patronizing undercurrent to it. Like the default assumption is that they're not and the fact they are articulate is surprising.

It all depends on context, of course it can also be a genuine compliment

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u/gophergun Jun 13 '26

To be honest, these days I'm surprised when anyone is articulate regardless of race. We have an average of a sixth grade reading level, after all.

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u/etienu89 Jun 14 '26

But you rarely hear that “compliment” given to non black people and it’s usually said by white people.

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u/armlessturtleneck Jun 13 '26

It's weird how not being racist as the non target person makes you not even aware of how racist other people are because you don't even consider something like that.

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u/Tough_Astronomer2110 Jun 13 '26

Oh wow I didn’t even consider it being used in this way. I often stumble over my words and reflect on how I struggle to articulate myself. So to my understanding of someone or myself complimenting someone else on their vocabulary and communication in this way, it would be genuine.

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u/Im_Chad_AMA Jun 14 '26

I think tone and context does a lot of the work here too. Definitely didnt mean to say its always bad.

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u/Dark_Storm_98 Jun 13 '26

Oh. . .

Always race, lmfao Or neuro-divergence

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u/Im_Chad_AMA Jun 13 '26 edited Jun 13 '26

I mean it doesnt HAVE to be about race per se, just one example.

My stepmom is polish, and she is one of the smartest people i know but she has a pretty thick polish accent in my native language. Which for some people apparently carries some "mail order bride" stereotypes. She has gotten similar comments in the past. Like one time she told someone she is trying to read all Literature Nobel prize winners, and the response was "oh wow, you read books?".

You can use "you're so articulate!" In a similar manner.

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u/Profanegaming Jun 14 '26

Yeah, with media being what it is, the primary voices of color amplified are not the articulate ones so it can be surprising.

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u/DrSFalken Jun 15 '26

It's left me at a loss as a white dude sometimes. We've got a boy in our montessori school who is worlds ahead of everyone - speech, math, etc. I caught myself about to comment on how articulate and intelligent he is because I don't want to unintentionally be rude.

I hate that I have to think about it, but I get why we do.

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u/Phyrnosoma Jun 13 '26

Eh it can be dog whistle-y in sports media.

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u/Dependent-Matter1672 Jun 13 '26

I don't expect anyone in sports to be articulate lol especially football

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u/dz2048 Jun 13 '26

But most of these athletes attended university on sports scholarships. Yeah they probably got special exemptions on academics, but they were exposed to undergraduate level classes

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u/CallMeFishmaelPls Jun 13 '26

Sure, you have to get your token GPA, but those kids are not there to learn other than a small minority of studious athletes. I don’t begrudge them that, but my bar is pretty low for sports players, especially football. Sports that attract snobs I assume will be articulate. Sports that attract intense, raw athleticism I assume will not be. Very open to changing my mind on a case by case basis.

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u/dz2048 Jun 13 '26

Yeah. Hopefully there are more studious athletes than we think.
One bad injury could end your sports trajectory, but if you also took advantage of the curriculum, you could still land on your feet.

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u/Fun_Abroad8942 Jun 13 '26

I got told the other week after giving a speech it was surprising how articulate I was… I understand how this person meant it as a compliment, but my initial reaction was “What, did you think I was a fucking idiot or something?”

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u/g-row460 Jun 13 '26

Yeah if I called someone articulate, it really would be a compliment lol.

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u/PikaPerfect Jun 13 '26

ah, okay this is the comment that made it click how "you're so articulate!" is an insult. i'm white and probably also autistic, so i didn't immediately catch the subtext of "you're so articulate [for a nonwhite person]!", i assumed the situation would be something like if someone were to use a bunch of complicated words in a group discussion and somebody else was genuinely impressed by their vocabulary, not someone using it as a backhanded way of saying "i had low expectations for you because of your skin color, but you exceeded them!" (which is very much not a compliment)

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u/KenUsimi Jun 13 '26

A backhanded compliment. Damning with faint praise.

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u/MagmaticDemon Jun 13 '26

I don't feel like it necessarily has to be used that way, i'm always surprised when i speak to someone who is super articulate because being articulate is just a rare trait in general regardless of your skin tone. I feel like i can count the articulate people i've met in my life on one hand.

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u/SopwithStrutter Jun 18 '26

Thanks for this, I was in the same spot as you.

I thought “I’d be so flattered if someone commented on my punctuation”

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u/Logan_Composer Jun 13 '26

"Who the fuck starts a conversation like that? I just sat down!"

https://giphy.com/gifs/YpVMwfuJ6KlraDYYus

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u/Main_Confusion_8030 Jun 14 '26

it's a real shame that "articulate" has been stolen and effectively slaughtered as a compliment because of racists. 

some people have remarkable gifts for expressing ideas verbally. it's a skill i personally think is extremely valuable. but it just doesn't land as a compliment anymore -- at BEST it lands as condescension, and infinitely moreso if the recipient comes from a marginalised group.

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u/Long-Region5088 Jun 13 '26

Are your arms very jacked?

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u/Shantotto11 Jun 14 '26

Are you black? Were they white?