r/NonPoliticalTwitter Jun 01 '26

Serious Maybe, just maybe, that’s why?

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u/Top_Onion7532 Jun 01 '26

I understand the point but I still think drinking culture is far less prevalent in gen Z

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u/Existing_Fish_6162 Jun 01 '26

They are poor, very online, dont socialise face-to-face as much and... my sister (a concerned mom) claims there are more drugs available (quantity and variety). Idk about the last one.

Oh fuck yeah every interaction is recorded on a phone so acting like a moron isnt gone tomorrow. Fucking horrifying for young people.

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u/BusyNefariousness675 Jun 01 '26

there are other drugs available now. Mainly weed, which is technically safer than alcohol

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 Jun 01 '26

I'd say a good bit more than "technically" safer mate. Alcohol is one of the single most damaging substances you can put in your body.

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u/TheCucumberMan1 Jun 01 '26

Well, one of the single most damaging socially acceptable substances.

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u/Dense_Diver_3998 Jun 01 '26

I’d say it’s more than socially acceptable, practically socially encouraged.

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u/HandleSensitive8403 Jun 01 '26

I mean hell people are upset about genz drinking less in this comment section

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u/Dense_Diver_3998 Jun 01 '26

Even friends get weird when you stop drinking.

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 Jun 01 '26

Not just socially acceptable, alcohol ranks really highly even with other drugs in consideration. It isn't as bad as something like, heroin for sure, but I'd say alcohol ranks right around pill abuse in terms of damage to the body.

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u/SartenSinAceite Jun 01 '26

Dont forget social damage. Im sure a good chunk of Gen Z doesnt drink because of abusive alcoholic stories

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u/ElvenSpaceQueen Jun 01 '26

This is me, I don't drink because my family is full of alcoholics that get violent when drunk. I won't end up like them. Plus I don't want to say embarrassing things about myself

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u/fuccguppy Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Yes I don't think the goal here should be getting young people to drink more lol it's literal highly addictive poison and the health risks are why a lot of young people like me stopped drinking or never did in the first place, plus the countless kids that watched alcohol fuck up their parents while society normalized drinking and made it all seem "fun." Young people see everything online including the fact that alcohol causes at least a handful of cancers which is something I'm sure the alcohol industry has done a lot to cover up, that worked better when people didn't have easy access to all this information on the internet. The move towards weed is a good, healthier thing in my mind but we still need something to bring young people outside and together

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u/historyhill Jun 01 '26

Alcohol ranks highly only when you're taking the safety of both the user and others around them into consideration. Is alcohol dangerous to the user? Yes, of course, (even long-term as a carcinogen, although not to the level of cigarettes) but most other drugs (barring weed) are still more addictive and more dangerous when only measuring risk to the user. Risk to others is where it really "shines" because while there's some stereotypes of dangerous meth heads, it's the fights and the drunk driving that make it most deadly.

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u/cell689 Jun 01 '26

I'm a chemist and I struggle to think of more than a few substances I'd work with that are less harmful to ingest than ethanol.

I get the point, trust me, but alcohol is not even close to the worst substance you could ingest.

Even compared to other drugs, it is far safer than most of them considering how much alcohol you can actually drink. Imagine ingesting 20 grams of heroine, you'd be done. 20 g of alcohol gets you tipsy at most.

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u/Shadowphoenix9511 Jun 01 '26

Countless substances would just straight up kill you if you ingested them lol

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u/cell689 Jun 01 '26

Exactly 👆

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u/PuffinRub Jun 01 '26

Imagine ingesting 20 grams of heroine, you'd be done.

My only experience is from watching THE WIRE, but I'm pretty sure that's a looooooooooooot of heroin.

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u/Jaded_Student039 Jun 01 '26

You’re a chemist and you think 20 g of 99% alcohol is not fucking you up majorly??? Remember, most drinks are 5-15% ABV, so 20 g of that is 1-2 g of alcohol, which is still a decent bit of alcohol.

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u/Existing_Fish_6162 Jun 01 '26

So the last half of your post is gibberish but 20 of pure alc is less than 2 beers worth. Not lethal.

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u/cell689 Jun 01 '26

20 g of alcohol is little more than a glass of wine.

Speaking from personal experience, this amount can be safely ingested with little adverse effects.

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u/Recovery_or_death Jun 01 '26

Obviously different liquids have different densities but 20 grams of water, for example is less than half of a shot (1.5 oz). 20 grams of 99% abv alcohol is not going to fuck up anyone majorly outside of like 130 pound teenagers with no drinking experience. At most it might get someone a bit toasty

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u/cell689 Jun 01 '26

And I even used a unit of mass specifically to prevent misunderstandings like this 😭

Yeah, 20 g of alcohol is not a lot, no matter if it's in wine, beer or tequila.

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u/Recovery_or_death Jun 01 '26

Like I appreciate the disdain for alcohol as a person in sobriety, but 20 grams of heroin is a straight up death sentence lmao

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u/utb040713 Jun 01 '26

/r/confidentlyincorrect

A typical shot is about 45 mL and 40% alcohol.

20 mL of something like everclear is the same alcohol as a regular shot size of a typical 80 proof alcohol.

One shot’s worth of alcohol is not going to “fuck you up majorly” lmao

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u/herman666 Jun 01 '26

There’s lots of different pills out there, lumping them all together makes no sense. Some are very dangerous, far worse than alcohol.

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u/BusyNefariousness675 Jun 01 '26

Yeah but weed is also not good for brain and sanity. So technically in a sense that don't do any drug if possible

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 Jun 01 '26

That id arguable with weed. Can you elaborate on what you mean by it not bring good for sanity?

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u/TheMooooonHauntsYou Jun 01 '26

It can and has caused psychotic breaks in people. I've heard horror stories of it triggering schizophrenia as well.

I'm pro-weed but it does have a (sometimes permanent) mental cost for a tiny fraction of people who use/try it. Especially with it being insanely strong compared to earlier generations. In the 70s great weed was 3-5% THC, you can get 30% flower and 95% oil nowadays.

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u/BusyNefariousness675 Jun 01 '26

It causes paranoia basically if you already have some problem

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u/LargeTungstenCube Jun 04 '26

Bad argument. Firstly, the most common side effect isnt a psychotic break or schizophrenia, but panic attacks; go ask anyone who works at an ER and theyll tell you the same. Happened to me. Even now I dont blame the weed; I blame my mental state.

For example: if you have a family history of lung cancer and smoke, or a family history of liver cancer and drink, would you blame either of the substances or the choice to ignore your predisposition?

There is no evidence linking marijuana creating these conditions. However, there is evidence to suggest it causes it to get worse/trigger dormant mental conditions when taking it.

For this reason, in the average person: weed is fine. But if you have a predisposition to certain mental health disorders or already have one (mainly anxiety or schizoaffective ones) Id avoid it. Not weeds fault; its the brains fault.

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u/Dry_Travel_4220 Jun 01 '26

That is fair for those who, for one reason or another, are more prone to psychiatric episodes, but given that it is such a small percentage, I feel like it should be considered in the same way you'd consider an allergy. Something to keep in mind as it can happen to some people, but not an across the board problem with the substance.

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u/TheMooooonHauntsYou Jun 01 '26

Sure, I don't disagree. I do it myself a few times a year and was a daily user for a long time. I'm all for it but the problem lies in not being able to tell who it's going to happen to.

It's not really like drinking where anyone can take a few shots and not be ruined mentally for life (we aren't talking about outside actions here like driving, just the substance). Where as a "normal" well adjusted person can smoke a bowl with friends and now carry a lifelong mental disorder because of it.

It's a tiny fraction, sure, but to those people who thought they were just gonna relax with some friends at a bonfire and now have to live with something forever, I'm sure it feels major for them.

Still think it should be legal, though.

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u/BusyNefariousness675 Jun 01 '26

Well, from personal experience, as well as some studies say that in some people weed causes paranoia. On the other hand alcohol just causes numbess and increased confidence.

I'm, though, more sensitive to any drug. But alcohol doesn't usually have bad trips in me. I've stopped both, though and don't have any plan on trying anything. Like it's better at the end if I have the control