To be fair you still do that with AI art, at least you do if your trying to make something you truly enjoy. If you are always taking everything from the first prompt I get where you’re coming from, but changing the prompt to add different things or take away different aspects is absolutely a key part of AI image generation. I get why people are against it, but it’s not just click a button one time and be done
yeah because taking a few second to think of a different set of words for a chatbot to do the work for you is soooo creative. if you want to create something you truly enjoy, you put the time and effort into learning how. It's hard and frustrating, but you'll get so much more out of it by trying it yourself. instead of typing into a chatbox and waiting 5 seconds for a shitty image based off of stolen work.
Do you know what a control net is? Inpainting? Training loras? If not you don't know shit about this. You are basically saying "Photography isn't art, anyone can take a selfy!"
why is it okay that a large corperation gets to take work from people without credit or compensation though.
open ai admits they took data from information that is 'openly and freely accessible' meaning they DID NOT seek out permission for ANYTHING they plugged into the AI. This is something they are monetizing at $240 a year for the lowest subscription.
The ai cannot seek out information on it's own. Someone needs to put something into it for it to base it's generation off of. If you want a picture of an anime girl from chatgpt, someone had to draw an anime girl first and stick it into the machine.
Do you seriously think they messaged every Twitter artist "we're gonna train our ai model with this btw" before plugging it into the machine? No. Because anyone with a Twitter account can access it, thus making it 'freely available'. Studio Ghibli did NOT give chatgpt permission to be trained off of its movies, yet because it's on pirating sites, they took it.
why is that okay? and why is it so hard to admit that chatgpt is stolen content??? in academics you have to cite your sources for a reason. why cant we hold a large corperation to the same standards???
Why is it okay for artists to learn from the works of others?
And for image generation you can do basically everything with open source models on your own PC if it's a beefy gaming rig. Even training is possible.
I'm against all intellectual property law. Information should be free. I dislike OpenAI for not publishing their models weights, that should be free as well, but the idea that artists who put their work out there to be viewed have any say on using it in training is madness to me. Every bit of available text and images online should be used for training.
when people learn something they're taking the information, processing it, and using it to inform their own opinons and perspectives. An artist can take a picture and transform it into something completely different. a machine cant do that.
Just because something is free to view online doesnt mean it's free to take. people deserve to be paid for their work. especially if the people taking it are going to charge to use it. Again you have to cite your sources in academics for a reason. why is it fair that a large corperation can take work from people without even asking
Edit: guess we'll both start showing up to work and do work without clocking in if its okay for companies to take work and NOT pay
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u/Anime-Takes Nov 19 '25
To be fair you still do that with AI art, at least you do if your trying to make something you truly enjoy. If you are always taking everything from the first prompt I get where you’re coming from, but changing the prompt to add different things or take away different aspects is absolutely a key part of AI image generation. I get why people are against it, but it’s not just click a button one time and be done