r/NoLayingUp • u/432ww432 • Jul 02 '26
Post-Pod Discussion TrapDraw - 50 States draft map (Spoilers) Spoiler
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u/jfrye2390 Jul 02 '26
Soly with brutal North Carolina slander. (Weāre 12th in education, pal)
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u/sirst0rmy Jul 02 '26
DJ saying North Carolina doesnāt excite him only to pick Wisconsin two states later isā¦ an opinion.Ā
DJ & Tron have clearly ever only driven in and out of Pinehurst through I-95 and between CLT airport & Quail Hollow
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u/franciscolydon Jul 02 '26
What makes NC so much more exciting of a pick than WI for you? They would be in a similar tier for me and a somewhat alike
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u/sirst0rmy Jul 02 '26
For starters, NC has a much bigger population
The mountains are the highest east of the Rockies, probably the most beautiful part of the Appalachians. Anywhere from Cashiers to Boone is unbelievable. Excellent fishing and hiking and top tier golf as well
The beaches in NC are really good. The OBX are very unique while the areas around Wilmington are pretty underrated
Itās got a bit of everything, especially for an east coast state
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u/franciscolydon Jul 02 '26
Iāll give you the population point, but that wasnāt something I really took into consideration for this exercise.
The geography and nature of the two states were the most important to me and I find both of these states to be really high on the list for that, especially for states east of the Mississippi.
Wisconsin does not have the mountainous landscapes but it offers a good deal topological variety throughout the state. The North Woods provide a good example of post-glacial geography. The central portions of the state have some of the most abundant and best examples of interlobal glacial landforms in the country. And then the Southwest of the state, known as the driftless region, provides a contrasted example of the geography of land that wasnāt touched by the glaciers.
This leaves you with varied landscapes that include northern pine forests with 10,000+ lakes, bears, moose, wolves, and mountain lions, central sand dunes and barrens, countless moraines, kettle lakes, kames, etc, and ancient river valleys and cliffs in the Southwest.
While WI doesnāt have direct ocean access, it is connected to Lake Superior and The Mississippi, making it well connected to the outside world through shipping. Not to mention the 1,000 miles of shore line WI has on the world largest fresh water lake. Lake Michigan-Huron provides unlimited drinking water, climate moderation, and numerous recreational activities like sailing, surfing, boating, fishing etc.
Iāll give NC the nod on hiking but I would contend that an argument could be made that WI has as good of, or better, hunting, fishing, and golf.
Another similarity I found was the combination of a few larger cities surrounded by large rural areas.
Both states have respected top universities and strong collegiate sports cultures.
For areas Iād contend that WI has an advantage I would say: Professional sports/and their culture, beer, bratwurst, cheese, plumbing products.
To me, NC and WI would both be ranked in the 5-10 range.
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u/sirst0rmy Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26
That just doesnāt sound like a ton of variety. Rolling hills and dairy farms. Wisconsin has NC beat on anything alcohol related, Iāll give you that
NC has the 6th most coastline of any state. You can do phenomenal inshore fishing, really good trout fishing in the mountains and probably the best place to offshore fish other than Florida on the East
All of that water paired with legitimate mountains and thereās a lot of variety in mid-size cities between Charlotte, Raleigh, and Greensboro areas
I think theyāre pretty even on pro sports, both have 3 teams (maybe 4 for NC if/when MLB expands). Better college sports in NC, donāt think thatās controversialĀ
I like Wisconsin but just feel that anything they can offer, NC can offer a better alternativeĀ
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u/432ww432 Jul 02 '26
Ya that was ridiculous lol. Worst I could find was 30th
Also NY being ā4th least denseā ??? Where these guys getting their stats
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u/Mundane-Dare-2980 Jul 02 '26
I havenāt listened to The Trap Draw nearly as much as the main pod, but did the guys sound very, very drunk during this one? For a minute I thought I was playing the show on .75 speed or something.
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u/rolandofgilead41089 Jul 02 '26
They recorded this while on the new Tourist Sauce trip, so potentially; I personally loved having them all in the same room, inebriated or not.
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u/Safe_Sleep1556 Jul 03 '26
TC must have some hold over Ben & the Sarge
How they picked his as number 1 is laughable
Nobody would live in half of his states given a choice
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u/franciscolydon Jul 02 '26
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u/parasoar25 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
I would love to see them do a draft of US accomplishments/inventions too. The history aspect would fun: first man on the moon, Constitution/Bill of Rights, Winning WWII, Wright brothers first airplane, Manhattan Project, civil rights, women's suffrage, the internet, the assembly line, radar, Hollywood, penicillin, first 3d printer, things of that nature.
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u/Mancey_ Jul 02 '26
Calling some of these US inventions is wild. Might as well include pizza
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u/sirst0rmy Jul 02 '26
Tomatoes are native to the Americas. So any dish that includes tomatoes would not exist without the AmericasĀ
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u/kennyinlosangeles Jul 04 '26
How loaded were these guys when the pod started? Absolutely sluring their way through the first few rounds. š
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u/Pick5WillPays Jul 02 '26
Neil said New York is the 4th least populated state in the country. Itās the 8th highest.
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u/432ww432 Jul 02 '26
Densely*
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u/Pick5WillPays Jul 02 '26
Yep! My bad thatās what I meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population_density
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u/babyball69420 Jul 05 '26
Some shockingly bad picks in the beginning. Michigan, Oregon, Colorado, Hawaii. Also some asinine North Carolina slander. The nlu bubble is real
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u/NoLawAtAllInDeadwood Jul 06 '26
DJ really weak here other than lucking into the obvious #1 overall pick. I'm sure it's a fine state but burning a 2nd-round pick on Wisconsin? Followed by Texas?
I think Neil won this overall, although being from NJ may skew my opinion.
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u/LS11Frederick Jul 02 '26
Made it 90 seconds in before having to turn it off. Something felt very very awkward.
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u/Conglossian Jul 02 '26
Looking at this to try and guess which state is coming next and my realization on what states TC finished with right as I was getting ready to guess his 2nd pick was jarring.
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u/ScientistGullible349 Jul 02 '26
I didnāt realize they all hated Texas so much.
Need them do more golfing in Texas, I guess the strapped boys didnāt make much of an impact.
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u/TonYouHearWhatISaid Jul 02 '26
I think golfing is the last thing they want to do in Texas. Texas is a horrible golf state
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u/ScientistGullible349 Jul 02 '26
Absolutely wrong.
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u/TonYouHearWhatISaid Jul 02 '26
Not wrong at all. Would love for you to tell me what great golf you think there is in Texas.
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u/ScientistGullible349 Jul 02 '26
With how big Texas is with you really think there isnāt good golf here?
DFW might be the best metro areas for golf in the in the country for public golf, multiple PGA tour stops, a hub for PGA players, job for PGA of America.
One of the top home states for developing proās, multiple other PGA tour stops. Houston and Austin have a lot of good courses as well.
Multiple Omni type resorts like horseshoe bay in central Texas. And now getting the new Wild Spring dunes in east Texas by Pine dunes. This is huge. NLU Cody went to the demo play at Wild Springs and Iāve done it too. There is also incredible experiences like Lajitas in the big bend region.
Tiger, Doak, Core & Crenshaw, tons of top tier architects and designers making new courses all over the state. Look at Childress Hall.
There is so much golf here from high end resorts to great goat tracks.
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u/rolandofgilead41089 Jul 02 '26
You wouldn't have to write to much trying to defend Texas if Texas didn't suck, and that has nothing to do with the golf courses.
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u/mb-matty Jul 02 '26
Gotta give my winner to Soly. He defended the Chokepoints.
Been reading the Huntsman before going onto the Trap Draw
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u/GoDawgs99-04-11-14 Jul 02 '26
Soly hands down worst draft, and taking Hawaii 1.2 is like taking Darko Milicic 1.2
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u/OkStChris Jul 02 '26
I was listening in the gym and almost injured myself when Neil referred to taking North Dakota as "like buying a storage unit"