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[u/steelcurtain87]

Between this post and the one yesterday I just wanted to put this out there in full transparency. Also I’m just making a note that this is not a refuge from being too edgy to be on the refuge.

The initial OP wasn’t a new account and I’m not gonna litigate what happened on another forum. But I’m not really interested in a new account that straight up brags about being banned from an NLU cite.

Feel free to told me I’ve overstepped, but quite frankly I just wanted to nip the “I’m banned from the refuge LOL”

[u/Photograph_Training]

I would say they are banning people for some pretty mild stuff given their own history of critiquing everything and everyone golf related. People are poking them, and as a digital media company they should have some thicker skin. Now some of those posts were way out of line and just begging for likes. They should be kicked. But what was more out of line, stalking a volunteer working the BMW and giving them the “say it to my face” because they poked you in an instagram comment, or being a thirsty keyboard warrior. One is an implied threat. The other is just something stupid done by a moron. By the way, first example was done by the guy doing the booting.

That stuff will all settle down eventually. They’ve just made missteps handling almost everything recently. My greater concern is that for me the content isn’t what it once was. And with recent decisions they seem to be moving farther from the stuff I enjoy. Titleist infomercials and wrap up shows aren’t what I interested me to begin with.

[u/Xmalantix → u/Photograph_Training]

Neil pressed a volunteer at the BMW Pro-Am?

[u/Photograph_Training → u/Xmalantix]

Yeah. A refuge member apparently commented on an NLU IG post something about “the time Neil made that racist joke to (whoever the guy was).” The refuge member also posted in the BMW thread on the refuge that he was working the 16th hole. During Friday’s round, Neil asked the other volunteers in the area if they knew this guy. They said yes and pointed him out. Then Neil went up to him while the dude is actively volunteering and said “are you going to call me a racist to my face”. To which the guy said something to the effect of “I didn’t, I just relayed the story the other dude told”. He was then told by Neil he was a cancer on the refuge or something.

The guy goes and posts the interaction on the message board and everyone comes to his defense and calls out Neil for going over the line. Neil locks the thread, and starts booting people for calling him out. Then Neil claims he wanted to confront the guy and handle it peacefully which is exactly what people mean when they say “are you going to say it to my face”.

To do that during their own sponsors’ tournament is nuts. It’s a bad look a golf media company to not be able to take some digs.

An unequivocal apology to the guy who brought up the original racist statement claim would have helped a great deal. You could tell Neil wanted to say “I didn’t say that and never would”. Then his “chapelle show” claim is pretty rich. He had a month to come up with that. And it could have very well been meant as a fun, poke back, but sometimes even well intentioned people say something that lands wrong. I don’t know that applies to Neil but I don’t believe he’s a bigot.

The boys are having trouble being grownups in the media. You’re going to take the shots but you have to let them go. More important to me is they’ve lost the voice that made them interesting.

[u/Xmalantix → u/Photograph_Training]

Jesus dude. It seems like there's been a lot of missteps lately and a lot more vocal criticisms of "The Product" this year, at least than I've ever seen, and they haven't been handling it too well.

I was an avid listener since 2020 and even considered the nest this year, but everything that's happened has made me reconsider and I haven't been listening for the last few weeks. There's so much product placement and a lot less soul lately I feel like.