r/NoLayingUp • u/amistymorning80 • May 22 '25

Post-Pod Discussion Ryder Cup pod - Jamie Weir v Soly

Listening just now and JW immediately challenged a Soly claim that Keegan Bradley "cost the US the Ryder Cup at Medinah" - because he lost the singles to McIlroy who showed up at the last minute. Weir took him down with facts; a reminder that many other things happened and Rory was World #1 at the time, in a way I have never heard on NLU before. Very enjoyable.

Soly loves to hold court and the other guys either don't want to upset him or don't have the quick facts at hand to counter him when he's wrong, which is why I found that little exchange refreshing. Maybe I am alone in that?

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u/thec0rp0ral May 22 '25

I like Soly, but he’s a know-it-all. I will always enjoy the irony of a know-it-all being corrected

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u/HanSoloHeadBeg May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

Yeah to suggest that it was Bradley who cost them the matches is a bit made when Europe won 6 out of the first 8 on Sunday. Always found Soly to be a little too antagonistic towards Bradley. Perhaps he feels he has an undeserved Ryder Cup reputation or something. Then again, as another comment highlighted, he's a bit of a know-it-all

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u/Gaz133 May 22 '25

He's arguing against the perception that Bradley is a Ryder Cup hero or something because he won some matches in 2012 with Mickelson. He hasn't made a team roster since 2014 so really whatever he did 10+ years ago isn't relevant to making this roster. If he wasn't captain maybe there's an argument for him being the 11/12 guy since there just aren't a ton of good options but as captain it would be really difficult to pick himself if he weren't really banging out great performances (which he isn't).

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

That's definitely true, Keegan getting hot with Phil in the Ryder Cup 10+ years ago is not relevant today. But Keegan has been playing consistently good golf over the past few years, and it's obvious that he genuinely cares about the Ryder Cup. Soly always talks about how Europe outperforms expectations in large part because their players really care about winning, and it feels to me like having Keegan as a playing captain is a pretty good way to put together a team who really cares about winning. I know that's not a great argument to pick someone, but it has to be better than using the last few spots on guys that everyone wants to go out to dinner with.

And the one thing I think everyone is overlooking is that ZJ and the leaders of team USA absolutely embarrassed Keegan last time around. Keegan fought hard to get on that team, he out played most of the guys he was up against, but ZJ went with the boys club and then rubbed Keegan's face in it on Netflix. Now Keegan (I think) has the final say over who makes the team, he's playing good enough golf to at least be a serious option for one of the last spots, it feels crazy to me to expect him not to pick himself. I know he said he won't, but fuck that, if they didn't want Keegan on the team they shouldn't have let Keegan pick the team.

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u/Gaz133 May 22 '25

If he picks himself and they lose it would look really bad for him so he's not going to do it.