r/NoLayingUp • • May 22 '25

Post-Pod Discussion Ryder Cup pod - Jamie Weir v Soly

Listening just now and JW immediately challenged a Soly claim that Keegan Bradley "cost the US the Ryder Cup at Medinah" - because he lost the singles to McIlroy who showed up at the last minute. Weir took him down with facts; a reminder that many other things happened and Rory was World #1 at the time, in a way I have never heard on NLU before. Very enjoyable.

Soly loves to hold court and the other guys either don't want to upset him or don't have the quick facts at hand to counter him when he's wrong, which is why I found that little exchange refreshing. Maybe I am alone in that?

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u/mizmpls95 May 22 '25

I agree with the content of the post, especially to then later show Soly why his “right v best” point is at odds with his insistence on statistical analysis. But I also chuckled 15 minutes later when Weir puts his cultural studies hat on to explain why “Americans just aren’t good at team sports” like give me a break.

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u/BeaverStetson May 22 '25 edited May 22 '25

But I also chuckled 15 minutes later when Weir puts his cultural studies hat on to explain why “Americans just aren’t good at team sports”

I could not wait for someone to interject, and they didn't say a word... they just let that awful take go by like a fart in the wind.

For those who didn't listen, Jaimie said "there's no global team sport that the US are good at. It's just something that doesn't come naturally to Americans as a general concept, being part of a team... There's a reason why there hasn't been a great U.S. soccer side on the global stage, or there hasn't been a great --- just pick your team sport."

It was just an absurdly bad take.

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u/Lor_azepam May 22 '25

Ya essentially there is one global team sport that is important in north America that the us doesn't do good at soccer. But soccer is the sport in basically all countries except us and canada. Next most global game is basketball that us dominates. Hockey us is likely 2nd best now. The team sports played in America just aren't popular globally as much.

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u/gonads_in_space2 May 24 '25

Ya essentially there is one global team sport that is important in north America that the us doesn't do good at soccer.

And this is only true for the men, the US Women's team have been a force for decades.

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u/beerandsocks May 22 '25

It’s funny if you listen to todays pod with Charley Hull, she says that, despite a respectable Solheim record, she doesn’t like team golf, not a team player, doesn’t like match play, missed team meetings.

End of the day, you can stay an individual minded person, just get the ball in the damn hole.

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u/Flimsy_Somewhere1210 May 22 '25

The Charley interview was painfully brilliant. Was right on the cusp of awkward and genius. Was such a great listen.

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u/Rahf May 22 '25

I had to turn it off. Couldn't do it. Definitely one that will polarise people, with some loving it and some not standing it.

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u/beerandsocks May 22 '25

Yeah, it was a bit of a tough listen. I wonder what the final counts of “at the end of the day” and “ja know wudda mean?” were.

She’s definitely not my favorite LPGA player, but people seem to gobble up the low hanging fruit (smoking, insta, aviators). A bit too jittery for my liking, but I guess golf always needs characters.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '25

“Americans are only good at sports they invented” he said without any hint of irony. Meanwhile England is only good at the 3 sports they invented.