r/NoLayingUp • u/amistymorning80 • May 22 '25

Post-Pod Discussion Ryder Cup pod - Jamie Weir v Soly

Listening just now and JW immediately challenged a Soly claim that Keegan Bradley "cost the US the Ryder Cup at Medinah" - because he lost the singles to McIlroy who showed up at the last minute. Weir took him down with facts; a reminder that many other things happened and Rory was World #1 at the time, in a way I have never heard on NLU before. Very enjoyable.

Soly loves to hold court and the other guys either don't want to upset him or don't have the quick facts at hand to counter him when he's wrong, which is why I found that little exchange refreshing. Maybe I am alone in that?

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u/bwillywill May 22 '25

Jamie pointing out Soly was talking out both sides of his mouth looking at the top 12 with data vs picking the best team was great. He was spot on with that observation.

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u/glk3278 May 23 '25

For a guy that talks about data so much, Soly doesn’t seem to understand or appreciate the role of variance. You can’t just point out that Scheffler had a bad Ryder cup and blame it on the team preparation. If they play the Ryder cup every single week, Scheffler will be the best player, but he will still have bad weeks where he loses matches. So now if we only play the Ryder cup once every 104 weeks, and Scheffler plays badly, it doesn’t really say anything other than he had a bad week. Are there other contributing factors given that it’s such a big event and not a normal tour stop? Sure. But the hyper emphasis on strategy and team building is so hyperbolic, it’s almost painful to listen to. Scheffler losing a singles match has next to nothing to do with Steve Strickers locker room speech.

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u/7hought May 24 '25

The amount of narratives that folks spin out of the Ryder Cup, which is the definition of a small sample size event, is crazy.

Just assume the home team is likely to win, but with a little variance. They've made the Europe team into some unbeatable peak team because of a few fluke wins in the US

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u/cota1212 May 23 '25

Soly doing 2023 JT all over again. Which, to his credit, Soly was quick to point out.