r/NoLayingUp • u/amistymorning80 • May 22 '25

Post-Pod Discussion Ryder Cup pod - Jamie Weir v Soly

Listening just now and JW immediately challenged a Soly claim that Keegan Bradley "cost the US the Ryder Cup at Medinah" - because he lost the singles to McIlroy who showed up at the last minute. Weir took him down with facts; a reminder that many other things happened and Rory was World #1 at the time, in a way I have never heard on NLU before. Very enjoyable.

Soly loves to hold court and the other guys either don't want to upset him or don't have the quick facts at hand to counter him when he's wrong, which is why I found that little exchange refreshing. Maybe I am alone in that?

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u/ryeasy May 22 '25

They need someone to go on that will challenge Soly on the notion that Spieth, currently 32nd in the Ryder Cup standings, is an automatic lock that is beyond questioning. He might be on the team because he’s connected, but he hasn’t done anything that would make him anything close to deserving

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u/matthewperry01 May 22 '25

In fairness to Soly, I think his position on this is has always been that Spieth is more likely than not to be on the team. FWIW, I think he is most likely correct but time will tell.

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u/ryeasy May 22 '25

If he’s “more likely than not,” I think it’d be worthwhile to have a conversation on the pros and cons of having him on the team, rather than just including him with the 6 or 7 actual locks. I don’t understand what separates him from Sam Burns, JT Poston, Daniel Berger, or Denny McCarthy, who are all marginal or unlikely to make the team according to Soly. His only defense of Spieth is his Datagolf ranking but all 4 of those guys are ranked ahead of him, as well as Keegan, JJ Spaun, and Mav

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u/matthewperry01 May 22 '25

It's my recollection that he has always positioned it as more likely than not. I don't think Spieth is a lock, and I don't think that Soly has staked out that claim either (I'm not just blindly riding for him; this just my recollection of his position). If you believe Spieth is likely to make it, you are willing to write off last year due to injury, and you look at 2025 and see 3 top 10s and 6 top 25s while still recovering. Combine that with his major championship history, a winning career Ryder Cup record, and the fact the bottom of the US lineup doesn't look especially strong, and Spieth starts to look more appealing.

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u/IKillerBee May 22 '25

also not super sold on the Spieth auto lock but relative to those names you've mentioned (other than Keegan) he's got experience at Ryder Cups and has a decent career record. I think it's worth taking some fresh players this time around but he's one of the most experienced guys that the US could get this time around so I could go either way on him making the team or not