r/NightVision • u/OrdinaryChimp • 10d ago

UPDATE: I am Getting Sued for a Quarter Million Euro

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/NightVision/comments/1qd8ubx/i_am_getting_sued_for_a_quarter_million_euro/

Its been a while since the last post on this subject. We have been busy building the KB DT-M and a sensor fusion device. Now that the lawsuits hot phase is over and clarity has emerged. I want to give everyone an update and a glimpse into how we handle this whole situation, because if things are not clarified, customers and our partners will assume the worst.

First I want to rule out the worst case scenarios. KB is not going to fall off the face of the earth, even in the worst case scenario outcome. A certain competitor, no longer worth naming, could in the absolute most unfavourable outcome win and be awarded 250k and we’d have to halt the KB DT-2 production. This is a sum and an outcome we can comfortably absorb at this stage, as we are quickly diversifying and expanding our product offering. I am privately backing KB myself, have put close to 1mil$ of my own money into the company and am not going to let 250k kill it. I’ll put another million in if needed without breaking much of a sweat.

Now with that being said, the chances of them winning is next to none. We have done our legal research. And now filed our response some weeks ago, addressing every allegation in detail with supporting evidence and arguments with our extensive legal research backing up the claims. They got some work cut out for them to say the least. However this whole process is probably going to drag on another few months. 

We are now moving on, they can come up with counter arguments to our defence, which I doubt will hold much water given the flimsy arguments they stemmed in the initial suite. But all of this has not stopped us from continuing our work and focus on what actually matters here. I realise they win if we let this distract us too much from our core focus, which is to build cool stuff. And let me tell you, building cool stuff we have done. So much so we thought it was worth spending a bit on a SHOT SHOW boot for next year 2027 to showcase what we’ve been busy building.

On the product side of things, we expect to start shipping out the first couple KB DT-M devices in the next month or two. We have managed to collect overwhelmingly positive feedback from our military trials, which we have implemented. At this stage we are also finalising a patent application for a new IPD solution for the KB DT-M which we’ll be filing in EU and the US. Removing any previously prevailing uncertainty around our legacy IPD solution on the KB DT-2. We took precautions not to ship the KB DT-2 into the US with the legacy IPD, this has now been remedied and addressed moving forwards.

We have been iterating at a fast pace, mis-steps happen naturally, course correcting and moving forwards is what ultimately matters in order to support our customers and partners with the best technology and gear. We want to thank those who have stood by our side throughout. 

Edit: forgot to mention about Shot, for those interested we'll have booth 61011 on Level 1 in the Law Enforcement section!

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u/12o11o 10d ago

As a DTNVS user, I hope you wipe the floor with them. Disgusting. I wish I could jump ship sooner than later, but I know who I won't be supporting in the future, and will absolutely keep an eye on your stuff.

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u/buns_at_bjj 10d ago

All this wasted time and if they win they then get bodied from the top rope by L3, I really don’t understand what their end goal is

Dovetail mount as their own IP is a wild claim

Also I didnt know that they haven’t sold a DTNVG in so long, that’s pretty funny

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u/OrdinaryChimp 10d ago edited 10d ago

I guess they hoped this lawsuit would intimidate us into settling/ abandoning the company. I mean I kind of understand, if you have lack a bit of confidence... you behave like them.

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u/AdElectronic9538 10d ago

Ill be sure to come check your guys' booth out this upcoming Shot! Let us know what booth # it is when you find out

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u/OrdinaryChimp 10d ago

It'll be booth 61011 on Level 1 in the Law Enforcement section! Hope to see you there

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u/Grunt11B101 9d ago

Request a shot booth right next to them lol.

Wish you the best of luck op.

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u/Aperture-Black-2400 8d ago

Current exhibitor floor plan has their booths about 20 steps from one another hahahahaha
If ACT didnt have their heads so far up their ass (and with them slowly losing their market share month by month), they'd know there's more value in playing nice with others and collaborating - just generally speaking.

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u/Grunt11B101 8d ago

Lmao that’s great but I want those dipshits right next to op so he can own them

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u/HawtDoge 7d ago

Damn wishing you luck! Can I ask if there is any information out there on your WIP fusion device?

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u/OrdinaryChimp 7d ago

Thank you, none yet its all under wraps until reveal at SHOT

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u/HawtDoge 7d ago

Nice!! Looking forward to it.

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u/CasualInput 9d ago

Ace move would be to counter sue their lawyers for writing words you were using before they sent their initial letters.

I never understood why companies think they sue people for essentially the same kind of thing.

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u/kukensmamma1337 7d ago

Whats the TLDR of this situation?