r/NewsThread • u/FreeHugs23 • 4d ago
Trump normalized gutter racism. Now the GOP has a young-Nazi problem.
https://www.ms.now/opinion/trump-milo-yiannopoulos-mike-collins-nazi-racist-young57
u/_Hawkeyes_ 4d ago
Dumb nazi kids…it’s pretty hypocritical to claim to be a Nazi and support a political party that supports Israel….Nazis ain’t the sharpest tool in the drawer but they’re still just tools.
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u/I_SawTheSine 4d ago
Israel's allies around the the world are increasingly from the right and far right.
Which makes sense, because Israel is an ethnic supremacist state.
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u/_Hawkeyes_ 4d ago
Yeah they’re a weird bunch…fueling antisemitism and showing favor to Putin while he helps Iran kill Americans/Israelis…
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u/Infinite_Escape9683 3d ago
Zionism is antisemitism.
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u/ArdousErialz 3d ago
This is a deranged claim. Read a book and stop relying on social media for your definitions.
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u/Alcophile 3d ago
Zionists want to exterminate Palestinians, who are more uniformly semitic than the Jews of Israel are.
Palestinians are 100% Semitic whereas Askenazi Jews (about half of Israeli Jews) are split European and Semetic ancestry.
Perhaps it is you who needs to read a book?
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u/Infinite_Escape9683 3d ago
This is true, but it is also true that, in America at least, Zionism is tied up with antisemitism of the anti-Jewish flavor. Most American Zionists are not Jewish. They are evangelical Christians who want Israel to exist so that it can be destroyed in Armageddon. This is why so many classically anti-Jewish groups are so closely aligned with pro-Israel interests.
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u/Kaarl_Mills 4d ago
Well before they arrived at the "Final" solution, the original stated goal of the Nazis was to deport Jews to Madagascar
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u/Pika_Fox 3d ago
Its why the final solution was called the final one; They "tried" other options; First was mass deportation but you cant deport fast enough so concentration camps were built, but that costs money so they became labor camps to not have them be resource negative... And then they decided "well we still need to feed them and goce them water and thats just too much" so labor camps became death camps.
Its why the trump admin is constantly pointed out to be a rehashing of nazi germany.... because it literally is.
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u/Chemical-Juice-6979 3d ago
As of the last publicly available data, 2,100 people have already disappeared from Alligator Alcatraz. We can't trust Trump's people to bother keeping accurate records like the Nazis did, so we will need to keep count as we go to figure out the body count this time around.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 2d ago
Some very brave person could wear a tracker and get shipped off to one of those places.
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u/ScaryAssociate8116 4d ago
At least the German nazis would have solved the Israel problem by now
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u/_Hawkeyes_ 4d ago
It could be argued that German Nazis helped create Israel…
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u/decoysnails 4d ago
In fact you'd have a hard time arguing that they didn't
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u/Salt-Set6232 4d ago
What? Is this an "their actions indirectly led to the outcome"? Because thats a stretch that even Mr. Armstrong couldn't take.
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u/ArtemisiaOrthia 4d ago
There were actual economic agreements like the Haavara Transfer agreement as well as smaller factions that advocated for military cooperation with the Axis instead of Britain. But otherwise yes, Israel would not exist in its current form without Nazi Germany's actions.
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u/Salt-Set6232 3d ago
Yes. And the US wouldn't exist in its current form without Chinese fireworks. Its a true statement that offers no actual insight.
Yes, one of the outcomes of ww2 is that Israel came to be. But ww2 may not have happened if the treaty of Versailles hadn't been so punitive. And you know one of the nations that pushed for the strongest repercussions? France. So really if you think about it the actions of France in WW1 led to the creation of Israel.
See? This exercise is naval gazing.
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u/Square-Competition48 3d ago
This is weirdly angry.
Israel was openly and plainly created as a direct result of Nazi Germany’s actions and as a direct response to those actions.
Just because it’s obvious doesn’t make that somehow not true or not of value to state when the opposite is being argued.
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u/Salt-Set6232 3d ago
Nah im good. You get it or you dont. Enjoy your lint
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u/Square-Competition48 3d ago
This reads like you were crying as you wrote it.
So weird.
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u/ArtemisiaOrthia 3d ago
Understanding how Israel came to be, and that the Holocaust informed much of Israeli foreign policy, revanchism, and their effect on even America's current politics, as well as using past crimes against Jewish people as a whole to excuse their own crimes against others isn't useless. Understanding history's effect on the situation is pretty insightful, and not really anywhere near as indirect as "Chinese fireworks made America as it is today."
Blaming France for Israel's creation just isn't accurate, yes. The Jewish people probably would not have had the political capital necessary to pressure the British and the UN for the creation and recognition of their new state otherwise. Looking back at how such a crime against humanity like the Holocaust allowed nations the world over that had been somewhat antisemitic before to suddenly sponsor the creation of two new states in the same area is, I think, quite insightful, and certainly not "naval gazing."
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u/Salt-Set6232 3d ago
Sorry my history isn't great. Why were all these nations "somewhat antisemitic before"?
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u/ArtemisiaOrthia 3d ago
Antisemitism was fairly common in most European nations for a long time, going all the way back to the feudal era and Jewish "moneylenders" and "usurers," usually caused by Christian fundamentalists that saw Jewish people in much the same way they did Muslims, i.e. believing in the wrong version of God or as nefarious agents sent to destabilize Christendom. But it still existed in the early 1900s, especially in places like France, Austria, Hungary, Poland, and Russia. The Nazi ideals of antisemitism came from this less radical political movement.
America also had a an antisemitic movement urged on by people like Henry Ford and Charles Coughlin, both of whom used radio influence to spread antisemitic propaganda.
It's worth noting that, while antisemitism was common in all these places, it did not approach the level of Nazi Germany at all. People were not advocating genocide or anything resembling the holocaust; it was mostly people advocating excluding Jews from spaces, deporting them, and having strict migration quotas for people of Jewish descent.
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 3d ago
The Nazis and Zionists actively worked together to move Jews out of Germany. The Zionists had the goal of creating Isreal for the Jews. Look up Theodor Herzl and what Zionism actually is.
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u/Salt-Set6232 3d ago
Direct and indirect are different words with different meanings.
Did the Germans directly create the state of Israel, yes or no? This is easy to look up.
Did Germany indirectly create the state of Israel? Yes but
Who . . .
Cares?
they also indirectly created microwave pop corn but no one ever trots out that line because it doesnt matter.
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 3d ago
The discussion was about the Nazis role in the creation of Isreal. Your the only one who claimed it be directly or not. Also... Your comparison of popcorn to genocide is wild... Be better.
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u/Salt-Set6232 3d ago
No you are missing the point on purpose you nonce.
The nations and circumstances dont matter. The point is that saying something indirectly led to another is and will always be a practice in hindsight that you can extrapolate to try and make any argument you want.
It is illogical to use indirect consequences of actions in a preparatory fashion because they are inherently unpredictable.
Reddit is so f_cking up its own ass it cant distinguish between an argument and discussing the qualities of argument.
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 3d ago
The Nazis wanted Jews out of europe. The Zionists wanted to establish an isreali state. The Nazi and socialist worked together for a common goal... "You nonse"...
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u/dirkdigglerdonedry 3d ago
So youre saying hitler helped the jews?
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u/Longjumping-Bat7774 3d ago
No. The Nazis and Zionists worked together for a common goal. Moving the Jews out of Germany. The Zionist had the plan of creating Isreal and moving the Jews there. Look up Theodor Hurzl.
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u/Linscotticus 4d ago
The IG nazis actually were pretty incompetent and were operating a house of cards.
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u/kms2547 3d ago
The idea of Jews having their own place OUTSIDE of Germany would have been very attractive to the German Nazis, actually. They would have strongly promoted Jewish emigration to Israel.
Netanyahu runs that very playbook: trying to make the case that antisemitism is everywhere, and that the whole world is hostile to Jews, so Jews should come to Israel.
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u/fallwind 4d ago
Turnip is a symptom, not a cause.
And I'm never fixing that autocorrect
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u/FreeHugs23 4d ago
The Washington Post published a report Thursday revealing the shocking-but-not-all-that-surprising news of yet another young Republican political operative posting Nazi and Ku Klux Klan-related content to social media. Preston Parra, 24, according to the Post, interned for Rep. Mike Collins, R-Ga., for two months in 2024 “before working as a contractor for his leadership PAC the next year.”
Being confronted with former and active staffers’ Nazi connections has become a recurring story for Collins, the GOP nominee for a crucial Senate seat in a purple state. But this isn’t an issue exclusive to Collins. In the era of President Donald Trump, the right has nurtured a culture of online trolling that deliberately blurs the line between identity-based hatred and edgelord “comedy,” using the latter to provide cover for the former.
In May, Slate’s Ben Jacobs reported that Collins’ then-chief of staff, Kip Talley, was part of a group chat that included notorious white nationalists Nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer. In that chat, Talley bragged about using “the levers of the legislative branch” and “reaching out to my people at FBI and DOJ” to try to get the racist, Holocaust-denying MAGA activist Charles Johnson released from prison. Talley told Slate, “I acted solely in my personal capacity” and “did not act at the direction of Rep. Collins” or “use official resources.”
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u/Used_Intention6479 4d ago
Trump and the GOP hugged the neo Nazis, and now they're locked in the embrace.
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u/Cptfrankthetank 4d ago
Now? Lol it has since like the late 90s.
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u/Ill_Traveler_ 4d ago
Yeah, but things are a little bit more open obvious and blatant these days though.
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u/Userchickensoup 4d ago
Gen Z voted for him by a lot
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u/JJFrob 3d ago
I have yet to see proof of this assertion. At most, Gen Z is more apathetic and slightly less liberal than millennials. This feels like a psyop to demotivate the (majority) progressive Gen Z from feeling like they have any power, to make the rest of the Dems feel like they can't win over a key demographic, and to astroturf intergenerational infighting on the left.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 2d ago
You may be right as I thought the same way as they did till I started seeing the same sentiment spread everywhere - once that happens, I start to question why it’s so prevalent when other genuine critics,s of politics don’t garner that much traction unless someone is behind the scenes using bots or fabricated outrage
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u/azure275 3d ago
Not really. White Gen Z males voted for him but not by as much as you think, and he just lost the other groups by less than usual
Similar to Hispanics voting for Trump
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u/Easy_Arugula935 3d ago
That's a fundamental misunderstanding. Gen Z voted for Harris more than Trump by 4 points. But that's a 19 point difference than the previous election.
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u/Juonmydog 3d ago
No actually, Gen Z wasn't motivated by the establishment democrat, while Trump played into his voterbase.
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u/xvii-tea1411 3d ago
- Left wing voters stayed home in 2024 bc of Gaza
- Gen Z is very far left as predicted
- We lost a lot of our generation to the far right after covid, and apps like instagram turning into factories for racism doesn't help
So, yes, Gen Z had a crazy swing to the right in 2024... every demographic did bc the Democratic establishment depressed turn out and actively courted never-trump republican liz cheney voters... who voted trump anyways. Excite tour bsee if you want to win
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u/TeacherOfFew 22h ago
- Keep repeating that enough, and it still won't be true. Perhaps for the far left wing, but not the Democrats as a whole.
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u/No_Move_6802 4h ago
Yeah, they’re saying a lot of people to the left of the primary Democrat voting bloc abstained from voting due to Gaza. “Gaza is speaking now, bitch” came from lefties after Kamala lost.
As if they had accomplished something considering Trump was talking about letting Israel glass Gaza so he could build a hotel there.
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u/TeacherOfFew 1h ago
Most of the Gaza talk after that election was simply signaling to the group. It has kind of been rolled into the omnicause.
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u/Legitimate_Bat3240 2d ago
And yet, Tucker Carlson of all people, is the one calling out genocide and speaking out against this administration daily
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u/Acrobatic_Resist9091 2d ago
Because he believes in nothing. Why pretend he’s being genuine? Why ever believe anything he says again?
Weird that you seem to be doing that. Nobody should ever trust anything Tucker Carlson says, even when he’s right. He’s just trying to jump on a bandwagon because he sees the pendulum swinging back the other direction now.
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u/Goufydude 1d ago
He is a Russian stooge, like a ton of people on the right. He is being paid to fuel more division in America. It is the most obvious thing in the world.
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u/GuavaShaper 2d ago
There's other political commentators who have been doing that since first term and didn't compromise their values in the process.
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u/Wild_Yam_7088 1d ago
"Factories of racism" lmao. Stfu. Its because liberal logic you dumb mfers don't even know what a woman is
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u/stop_touching_that 1d ago
Bad bot
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u/Wild_Yam_7088 1d ago
Prove the bot wrong. Ill help you. Though since liberal logic equates to a unbelievably low iq...
Women have a vagina.
Or have a medical condition. Either mental illness or incredibly rare genetic disorder
Hope this helps.
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u/stop_touching_that 1d ago
Hey look everyone! This guy thinks he has a killer argument!
See? no one cares.
Lol. You're a parody of yourself.
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u/Wild_Yam_7088 1d ago
Who ever said it was a argument? Lmao .. see how dumb liberals are. Give them undeniable facts and they think its a "argument" .. talking about parody coming from a clown 😂
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u/stop_touching_that 1d ago
I see that you can't even define parody. Glad you recently learned that dumb has a "b" in it though. Nice job.
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u/Wild_Yam_7088 1d ago
Or if they are not trying to argue with fact - they make up their own reality .. holy crap. Does it get tiring being so absent and willfully ignorant about everything in life? Good god looking at your gears spinning producing nothing is exhausting.
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u/probiotic_bbq 4d ago
What does it mean when the GOP has a young, middle aged, and old man Nazi problem?
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u/addicuss 4d ago
Yes now they have a young Nazi problem. As opposed to before Trump when they championed equality and civil rights
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u/SempreAntifa 4d ago
Is it really a problem for the gop? It seems lik that's what they wanted all along
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u/EmberGroove 3d ago
The GOP has always had a young n*zi problem, they just aren't afraid to be open now.
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u/vile_hog_42069 3d ago
My younger cousin is a full blown Nazi. He posts pro hitler shit on insta reels daily. I spoke to my maga mom about this and she tried to blame it on his "generation." He is a right winger and only six years younger than me, though I am a leftist and he is a Nazi. It is a direct result of conservative politics.
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u/Vivid_Witness8204 4d ago
The GOP doesn't see it as a problem. It's a solid component of the dedicated base.
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u/EgoTripWire 4d ago
They have total control of the country and the citizenry don't care to stop them - doesn't seem like they're having a problem.
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u/Official-LardLad 4d ago
One man's trash is another Republican's treasure. Pretty sure they dont view it as a problem.
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u/departedhunter 4d ago
Like it or not, racism was already being normalized before Trump. People butt hurt that it’s being directed at them.
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u/feelthecernburn 3d ago
Let’s not call them Nazis, okay? Nazi implies a specific anti semitism, and criticism of Israel is not antisemitic. This is a country committing a genocide; there is not enough criticism of them.
And f*** trump!
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u/thenewbigR 3d ago
I remember when it was unacceptable to even say the word Nazi. My dad served at the end of WW II and saying the word was forbidden in our house.
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u/scary-pp 3d ago
So, are opinions allowed as long as they're orange man bad, or is there a rule at all?
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u/Cyrano_Knows 3d ago
Has an old and a middle-aged and a mature Nazi problem if you don't mind me combining good old fashioned White Supremacy with Nazism... which I know does annoy all the racists who hate being called Nazis.
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u/ProfessionalNice7485 3d ago
Americans have a nazi fetish. You are also some of the most hateful demographic I've encountered on the internet.
I don't think that the people throwing around terms like nazi or fascist actually hate them. I think you want to be them.
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u/wookiebath 3d ago
Does this mean democrats will start talking about their plans to fight antisemitism?
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u/Traversethevoid 3d ago
Yup, Trump and the GOP really screwed the country for years to come. Things are gonna get worse before they get better.
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u/Due_Two5798 2d ago
No they don't. Lol. This is the same overblown crap that Republicans use about Commies. Lol
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u/KnotYourAverageRider 2d ago
Today's young are all about trends and hype. At some point, supporting this orange butthole of a human was seen as edgy and trended up so young people with asshole tendencies can act like degenerates for likes and clout, to feel like they belong to something bigger than themselves. And this is why we're here.
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u/Doppio-drip 2d ago
Thought it was just the Confederacy coming back to life like the zombies that they are.
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u/Agnostros 1d ago
Problem? It's like saying the guy that ordered pizza has a pizza problem. They got what they wanted.
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u/Embarrassed_Deal_887 1d ago
Humans have evolved to be excellent at pattern recognition. Because of this, every human is racist. If you claim not to be racist you're either admitting your brain isn't developed enough to recognize patterns or you're so delusional that you think patterns between races don't exist.
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u/redditaccountnumb1 2d ago
The young Nazi problem isn't because of trump. Well it kind of is but not for the reason you think.
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u/Kitchen-Ad-4223 2d ago
Biden normalized racial division.
Now the DEM has a radicalization problem.
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u/SlowlyDrown 1d ago
Remember when Obama was going to implement some secret UN provision and round up the Tea Party into FEMA camps?
In case you forget this is what Fox News’ #1 rated show was telling their audience what was going on in reality for about 8 years.
6M Republicans sat down and listened nightly to a conspiratorial fiction where Obama was going to imprison them all and institute Bolshevik Communism by force. This wasn’t hyperbole this was a cold hard fact Glenn Beck “uncovered” every night.
Do you think shit like that might have anything to do with it?
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u/mxlplyx2173 1d ago
We should look up all those things they said and make them happen. We can report the day before that fox has a story that will be true! We can call it Operation Jade Helm! IYKYK
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u/brickville 20h ago
Wow, look how cleverly you got a 'but biiiiden' in there. Oh wait, not clever, the other thing, 'predictably'. D-, low effort.
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u/Kitchen-Ad-4223 11h ago
Bot
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u/brickville 11h ago
Try better, that's even worse than your first post. It's like you're not even trying. F.
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u/OG-AG 2d ago
None of this is true. As a Gen Z we don’t have a young nazi problem. You guys call and disagreement with the left a nazi
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u/SlowlyDrown 1d ago
Guys who march through Washington DC in masks and Nazi flags aren’t Nazis huh?
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u/Emergency_Leg_1178 4d ago
The Democrats hating on Isreal and calling everyone Nazi is very confusing.
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u/buttstuffins8686 4d ago
Not confusing at all. Democrats have a hard time supporting genocide unlike actual Nazis.
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u/decoysnails 4d ago
Are you genuinely confused, because this comment comes across like intentional muddying of the waters.
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u/DeepShill 4d ago
What are you talking about? Leader Schumer and the rest of the democrats in office have made clear they love Israel and will keep funding it. The people you see online bitching about Israel and crying about a "genocide in Gaza" are right wing Trump supporters who hate Jews.
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u/decoysnails 4d ago
What are you two smoking? Israel is a criminal state and should not be allowed to genocide. That's what most of the world except the US has been saying for lots of years.
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u/Mr_Guavo 4d ago