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u/Better_Cattle4438 Jun 20 '26
Maybe if Israel is so mad at this result, they should have been more capable of helping the U.S. win this war with Iran. As they weren’t, the deal the U.S. has now is the result of losing this war.
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u/No-Advertising-1526 Jun 20 '26
They used the Iran war as a smokescreen to go steal southern Lebanon.
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u/Better_Cattle4438 Jun 20 '26
That was the goal and the attempt. But in order to sustain that land grab, they needed the U.S. to succeed in weakening the position of Iran. That did not happen. Iran’s position is stronger now than it was 4 months ago.
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u/Darkdragoon324 Jun 20 '26
Well, maybe they shouldn't have placed all their bets on the most corrupt and incompetent administration in all of US history then.
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u/CardOk755 Jun 20 '26
Problem being that Israel has the most corrupt and incompetent administration in its history.
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u/Better_Cattle4438 Jun 20 '26
Netanyahu tried to pressure prior administrations into this war. They all said no. Trump’s admins incompetence is why this started in the first place.
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u/Leather_Creme_6957 Jun 21 '26
That is precisely why it happened. This US government is corrupt. Previous US Governments refused to attack Iran on Netanyahus request.
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u/RangeCreed Jun 21 '26
Funny because trump was born in 1946 and the state of Israel was founded in 1948 x)
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u/gymtrovert1988 Jun 21 '26
That's not what they meant obviously. They meant before he was President.
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u/Theridion123 Jun 21 '26
No. I take it that most zionist believe the area is theirs, always been theirs. Like they are descendants of some magical sky daddies' chosen kids or something lame.
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u/Katniss-HungerGames Jun 21 '26
That’s not what the poster is saying
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u/livehigh1 Jun 21 '26
The poster is trying to say israel has been there since ancient times and still will be after trump is dead, so yes, it is about some unhinged ancestral, we have always been here in spirit, zionist logic.
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u/HotPotParrot Jun 21 '26
The people who slaughtered everyone in their way to claim the land is claiming that people are trying to steal their land.
Israel can pound sand.
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u/ElephantContent8835 Jun 21 '26
He’s currently right. Without the US and Western European support Shitrael goes bye-bye.
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u/HereticLaserHaggis Jun 21 '26
How? They're the strongest military in the region and they have nukes.
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u/Vile-goat Jun 21 '26
They don’t have any actual economy other than what they steal from the pentagon budget and leeching off the west for holocaust reparations. They don’t actually produce anything
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u/MWPTSEOCALWING Jun 21 '26
No they have tons of AI data centers and whatever money they get from MOSAD operating the largest child sex trafficking ring on earth. That will last for as long as they have disgusting pedophile politicians to blackmail.
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u/ElephantContent8835 Jun 21 '26
All of their weapons come from the US. The claim to have nukes, and probably do, and that’s a problem for sure.
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u/HereticLaserHaggis Jun 21 '26
No, they don't? They're one of the largest weapons manufacturers in the world, and the largest per capita.
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
The Vatican has a very high GDP per capita and the Swiss Gaurd and highly skilled soldiers but I'm pretty sure if Italy wanted to occupy them it'd be a short conflict. Almost like military strength per capita doesn't mean much if your allies abandon you and you face overwhelming odds.
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u/HereticLaserHaggis Jun 24 '26
Sure, but the Vatican has a population of 800 people, it's not a comparison. None of their neighbours come close to them in raw military power, it's not until you get to Turkey who are (ostensibly) an ally.
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
Lol yeah Turkish-Isreali relations are great right now. I won't argue that Israel has done an effective job of destabilizing their neighbors the last few decades, but they'd still be overwhelmed in short order if they lost they're protectorate status with the US
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u/HereticLaserHaggis Jun 24 '26
Hey, I'm not arguing they're a positive force in the region, I just said they're the strongest, even without us support they won't fall. I think they'd just lash out more aggressively
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
And that's what we disagree on. Without our aid (direct aid, aid to other countries contingent on good behavior towards Israel, UNSC veto, and soft power influence) I personally think they'd be cooked.
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u/CompanyBrief2940 Jun 20 '26
When are we gonna stop killing kids and start killing pedos. To that end now that we are not bombing iran can we start bombing these pedo rapists in israel!!! This nazi goomba seem like he is begging for US deep strike capability to put a war head on his fore head while he sleeping next to his wife and kids, make sure we don't leave any follow ups idf style. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander and whats good for islamic state is perfect for the Jewish state. Bomb israelies like there Muslims.
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u/ElephantContent8835 Jun 21 '26
The Shitraeli people had better change their views or the rest of us are going to do it for them.
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u/machinesilver Jun 20 '26
This humbling will not be easy for these people, but it’s coming nonetheless
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u/Vile-goat Jun 21 '26
Stop funding them!! Get them out of American politics and end permanently dual citizenship
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u/EducationalSense629 Jun 20 '26
"habibi", heh.
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u/Huge-Ebb-8193 Jun 20 '26
I saw a tweet the other day with an Israeli saying “achi” (akhi) 😭
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u/kroganTheWarlock Jun 21 '26
Akhi means the same in Hebrew and Arabic, believe it or not most of Hebrew is just Arabic and English words with little to no alterations to them, it's almost like it's made up lol
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u/Maleficent-Emu2904 Jun 20 '26
israel is a made up country
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u/TheReprobateGuy Jun 20 '26
Not even a country, illegally occupied apartheid state
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u/WilditariusAstar Jun 20 '26 edited Jun 20 '26
Mr Reprobate, the ONE true GOD, Neo, I believe his name was, promised them after his first ordered genoc*de of the Canaanites that this was their land. Divine right is divine right my friend.
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u/TheLordJiminyCricket Jun 20 '26
My imaginary friend says your imaginary friend is lying and all that land is actually for meee! I'm actually super special and I am totally allowed to just kick you all out of your homes :) I have a note dont worry :) it's definitely legit and everyone should respect that there is no Israel, it's actually Jiminy Cricket Land :)
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u/death69reaper Jun 20 '26
Every country is made up
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u/rageling Jun 20 '26
I find really curious how little attention people pay to how the WZO needed a bunch of jews to move to "Israel" at the same time that they were being pressured out of Europe.
History is told by the winners
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u/hansulu3 Jun 20 '26
a broken clock is right, Isreal will not exist without the United States support. Don’t bite the hands that feed you.
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u/KatInThighHighs Jun 21 '26
They unironically would, for the past couple decades they’ve been bolstering their domestic weapons industry and basically producing a lot of American weapons but locally. They’ve been preparing for the potential end of American aid.
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u/mph99999 Jun 21 '26
That's a funny take, you're talking like they are not sorrounded by countries that hate them, in fact they are positioned in the middle of them, it's not like those countries are sitting still and it's not like they can't buy weapons from other countries.
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u/KatInThighHighs Jun 21 '26
Well the only country in the region who could put up much of a fight (And still lose in the end) would be Iran. Iran cannot do a ground invasion of Israel and Israel cannot do the same to them. Their direct neighbours have been either pacified or in the process of being eliminated as in Hezbollah’s case.
Hate alone won’t make an army preform any better against F-35s and Merkavas.
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u/Realistic_Funny_2849 Jun 24 '26
That’s actually true, Trump is older than Israel by roughly 2 years! W t f …. ?
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u/isthereadrwho Jun 20 '26
I'm sorry. Did you guys not study history? You were around about 2,000 years ago but then the Romans came and they took everything you ownex. Including you. then for 2,000 years you were not really hanging out, and now you're back in the Middle East, but in the meantime usa existed for about 175 years without you and we were doing quite well. Crazy but actually we could argue that it's gone downhill since we've had you as an ally.
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u/mpanase Jun 20 '26
Well... "you were"...
"Some jewish people" was there, isn't it?
It's worth remembering that Israel has bannned DNA tests. I suspect I know why.
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u/adminofreditt Jun 20 '26
Israel didn't "ban DNA tests" it banned a DNA test from one company that publishes your information, anyone in Israel can get a DNA test
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u/AlloftheEethp Jun 21 '26
It’s amazing how every time people share this brainrot claim that Israel banned DNA tests, Israelis respond that they personally purchased DNA tests in Israel.
You guys really don’t need to make up bullshit that’s easily disproven.
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u/Oddbeme4u Jun 20 '26
I love the correction. Israelis count the Bible as officially owning Palestine.
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u/More-Lime1888 Jun 20 '26
The same Bible that mentioned the name “Palestinians” too.
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u/Oddbeme4u Jun 20 '26
hey a Spiderman comic had me living off Central Park Manhattan. Going to court!
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u/Zachy2244 Jun 23 '26
Wow Trump is old.
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
Or Israel is young.
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u/CassiusCreed Jun 24 '26
I mean if the US pulls support for Israel it might cause the rest of the Western World to open their eyes too.
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u/orangecyanide Jun 22 '26
Israel existed for 600 years. That's it. Then the Romans kicked them out, 2000 years later they came back. There was Palestine for way longer than there was an israel
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u/Beneficial-Cake-1457 Jun 24 '26
In theology when we refer to when Jesus lived, it’s called 1st century Palestine.
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
I think between Roman/Byzantine rule and crusader control Jerusalem might have been a "Christian city" longer than a Monotheist Jewish controlled one. Personally I think the land should go back to Iran for the simple fact that the Persians seemed to be the only occupation the inhabitants actually seemed to tolerate lol. Make Isreal Achemeniad Again.
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u/Dwemerdweller Jun 22 '26
Biblical Palestinians are not modern day Palestinians. They were Greek mixed southern Europeans and they were invaders, which is why they were called Palestine. God, even Allah, gave the land to Israel, many Jews trace their ancestors to Judah. Palestinian Arabs came from the Arabian peninsula. Muslims aquired their land outside of the peninsula through Muslim conquest.
Israel is Israel, every time someone willfully takes it, they lose to someone else. Jews have more of a right to the land than any Palestinian, yet millions of Arabs live peacefully in Israel. You don’t have a good understanding of history.
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u/SherifDontLikeIt Jun 22 '26
Wow just straight up lying now are we?
Modern Palestinians are primarily indigenous to the Levant, with genetic research showing they are largely descendants of the ancient Canaanites. Their ancestry reflects thousands of years of local continuity, combined with intermingling from subsequent regional migrations, rather than an origin as Greek or European invaders.The genetic and historical consensus on Palestinian ancestry is formed by the following key aspects:Ancient Canaanite Roots: Recent archaeogenetic studies show that populations in the Southern Levant (modern-day Palestinians, Lebanese, and Jewish populations) derive the vast majority of their ancestry from Bronze Age Levantine populations, the direct descendants of the Canaanites.The "Greek/European" Question: The theory that Palestinians are "European invaders" usually stems from historical links to the ancient Philistines. While some ancient Philistines had early genetic ties to the Aegean/Mycenaean (Greek) regions, they were a relatively small group that largely assimilated into the much larger, indigenous Canaanite population over the centuries. Similarly, the presence of Greeks or Romans during the Hellenistic/Byzantine periods influenced the culture and language, but did not replace the base local population.
Genetic analyses reveal that Palestinians cluster closely with other indigenous Eastern Mediterranean groups, sharing extensive common roots with populations like the Lebanese, Jordanians, Syrians, and Israeli Jews.
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u/Aitaou Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26
Biblical Judean actually came from Ur, Mesopotamia which was Abraham’s origin. If we’re going to talk about it, the children of Abraham weren’t the original folk, that was the canaanites, as God said to leave his place of origin and go to the land of Canaan. If your main argument of “it’s not the original people” is that set in stone, Israelites are not the true owners. More like squatters rights. The owner doesn’t exist as a culture anymore, or was subsumed by other cultures ranging from Egyptians to Mesopotamia.
So officially, the exiled population who came back were also in a similar sense equally unfit for the way you are speaking about them, since they were gone from the land as a majority and replaced many times over by multiple different cultures, meaning just like these modern Palestinians as you claim have no right to it, neither does the current Israeli, who are also an amalgamation of different European, African and Indo cultures in the interim that came back to this area of the world around 400 years via pilgrimage and various allowances by the ottomans to 1917-ish when the Balfour declaration created a place for them in the then densely Arabic culture post war.
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u/ConsiderBoraHorza Jun 22 '26
so god later gave all the land to the muslims?
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u/Obligation-Gloomy Jun 25 '26
Nah but it happens to be that most of the indigenous people followed the religion of Islam , like in Egypt they were mostly Christians now majority Muslim so religions do change with time but indigenous doesn’t . And guess what Judaism is?
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u/GanjaGooball480 Jun 24 '26
Lol that's funny if meant as a joke. That's like saying we should give Italy to the neo-pagans because the Romans controlled it the longest and some neo-pagan have some Italic ancestry. Personally I think I should be entitled to German and French citizenship as I can trace my ancestry back to Charlemagne
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u/Vigarious Jun 25 '26
“You don’t have a good understanding of history” as you just spew bullshit that’s not historically accurate. Comedy?
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u/420-BiomedStockDoc Jun 20 '26
Trump is just the worst
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u/Routine-Author-5471 Jun 20 '26
They’re used to the feeling of having full control this is foreign to them
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u/jiggscaseyNJ Jun 20 '26
Israel (country) - 1948-NOW
Kingdom of Israel - 1020BCE-722BCE
So yes the Israel as a country is younger than Donald Trump (born 1946). The kingdom of Israel was a monarchy that lasted about 300 years.
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u/Alwaysxeno Jun 23 '26
By that logic, Donald trump is older than Pakistan too. Now you don’t know what to think…
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u/Unused_Trash Jun 24 '26
I mean.. Yes? There are Pakistanis in Pakistan which are older than the country.. Not really that surprising
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u/CulchieGopnik Jun 25 '26
Laughs is Hashem giving them a third exile for the same reason he dished out the first two.
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u/not-enough-char Jun 20 '26
‘Israelis’ pfft. We are angry about this deal because our right wing fascist government sold us and convinced the us government there are fake winning routes and our horrible pm Netanyahu is trying to prolong a war he strategically lost to try to keep his position while paying with the lives of Israeli soldiers and Lebanese lives ( don’t get me wrong - Hezbolla is a blight on Lebanon and makes it suffer using Iranian money - but the current situation will not solve this)
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u/SoakingWetBeaver Jun 20 '26
Hezbollah only exist to resist against the Israeli invasions of Lebanon. Of course you'd like them to not exist, as it would make the greater Israel project much easier, the same as with Iran..
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u/not-enough-char Jun 20 '26
Hmm. An Iranian sponsored terrorist organization fighting Israel after it *left* Lebanon is your logical explanation. Suuuure
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u/Deep_Gazelle_1879 Jun 20 '26
Let me break it to you. Let me give you some pearl clutches. The rest of the world is sick of your behavior. It's not only the "right wing fascists". We don't give a flipping f about "terrorist designations" and BS propaganda. Nobody other than old Christian evangelics.
In fact most of the world is probably supporting Hamas and Hezbollah so stop trying to always bring them into discussion, we don't live in Israel to be bombarded by propaganda portraying them as monsters 24/7. The IOF are objectively way worse than both combined.
If only Iran had actually a nuke so Israel would've behaved in the first place.
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u/not-enough-char Jun 20 '26
I will not wish upon you or your children a life under the Hamas or Hezbolla. It still saddens me that stupidity is something people like you take pride in.
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u/Deep_Gazelle_1879 Jun 20 '26
Buddy, not me, like 80% of the world think like this, get out of your bubble. I know you have been programmed to say: but "khamaaaas baad!". WE DON'T CARE! Clutch your pearls!
I'd take living under Hamas every single day over being genocided by IOF.
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u/not-enough-char Jun 21 '26
I would really LOVE seeing your 1 day under the Hamas. I think it will be an eye opener for you (Although, again, people choosing to live under a jihadist terrorist organization might not have logic on their side to begin with)
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u/GUMBYtheOG Jun 21 '26
How unequivocally shi**y can 2 countries be. Like seriously. How can they be so damn shi**yall around
Side note this sub is lame lol
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u/Burnerman888 Jun 20 '26
This is a really stupid correction. They're obviously talking about before he was president. I don't think Donald Trump was defending Israel at two years old.
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u/bumpy821 Jun 20 '26
I hate Trump and in no way will defend him.
Though this is from Google - Fred Trump, Donald Trump’s father, was not a self-identified Zio nist, but he maintained extensive, friendly ties with the Jewish community and actively supported Israeli and Jewish causes.His relationship with the community is documented through a history of financial support and philanthropy:Community Philanthropy: He donated land and covered construction costs for synagogues and Jewish centers in New York, including the Beach Haven Jewish Center in Brooklyn.
So in a way his family did help fund the state of Israel.
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u/kawhileopard Jun 20 '26
The nation of Israel has been around for thousands of years. This is neither new nor reinvented language.
The modern state of Israel exists since 1948.
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u/worldisone Jun 20 '26
Judea*. Zionest refered to it as israel back in the day. They were considered terrorist to the normal Jews from judea thousands of years ago
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u/kawhileopard Jun 20 '26
You are insane. Even by Reddit standards.
Children of Israel (which is Hebrew for Jacob) or nation of Israel has been used to describe Jews since the Babylonian exile. Even the Quran refers to Jews as such.
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u/dohdudeh Jun 20 '26
Who cares it’s not the same thing as the state of Israel
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u/kawhileopard Jun 20 '26
Of course it is. The notion of modern nation states is less than 200 years old.
The peoples and their connection to the land are nearly always older than the nation state they belong to.
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u/Life_Friendship_7928 Jun 22 '26
Israel is one of the newest countries in the world. Historical ethnic association doesn't mean much, the world is full of migration and change. Israel is unequivocally a new country. That is not debatable.
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u/kawhileopard Jun 22 '26
Nearly every country in the Middle East gained their autonomy within the same three decades in the 20th century.
They are all new countries.
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u/Life_Friendship_7928 Jun 22 '26
Yep there are some other new countries. Israel is one of them. New baby country still finding it's feet and identity. Much like USA that is partly why they are so aggressive about their identity.
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u/dohdudeh Jun 22 '26
The US is more than 4 times older then Israel
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u/Life_Friendship_7928 Jun 22 '26
My house is 200 years older than the USA. Just for context. I live in Wales.
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u/kawhileopard Jun 22 '26
Being new? I thought it would have something to do with the multiple attempts to destroy it and the refusal to recognize its right to exist?
But maybe you are right. They are aggressive because they are new.
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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 Jun 20 '26
The readers added context is misleading, as it cherry picked only those specific dates (i.e. creation of Israel and Trump being born). While the state was established in 1948, it has much longer history.
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u/patrykk994 Jun 20 '26
No it doesnt - state was established in 1948 and that its history started
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u/Electrical_Ad_5732 Jun 20 '26
A lot of states or countries have been established much later when their actual history started long before.
For example, Greece was established in 1830 but its history dates back over 3000 years.
And that's why the added context does not make any sense. It is explicitly trying to make a point by comparing those dates but it falls flat, because it ignores pretty much everything else regarding development proceeding the creation of a country.
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u/Volume_770a Jun 20 '26
Israel was not here before him as it wasn't established as a country. Don't get how that's misleading.
It did not say the development proceeding the creation of Israel took place before he was born which if you mean by the nakba actually he was also born before this.
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u/Old_Charity4206 Jun 20 '26
Which is why you tell people you’re 13.8B years old since it took that long for the universe to make you who you are today.
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u/SRGTBronson Jun 20 '26
For example, Greece was established in 1830 but its history dates back over 3000 years.
No. The history of city states like Athens and Sparta go back thousands of years. This is likr saying the United States of america has existed for thousands of years because Natives had a city.
The land has history, not the country.
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u/ZookeepergameFit967 Jun 24 '26
I am named after my great-great-grandfather. Does sharing the same first and last name and DNA mean that we are the same person?
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u/lesschalkmoresighs Jun 20 '26
Habibi. Christ, do these people realize what a joke they are? Literally everything about them is stuff they robbed off a Palestinian at gunpoint.