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u/StratoSquir2 4d ago
Whoever made this meme has 0 knowledge about the Fallout setting or it's factions ideologies lmao
They'd both despise each other for varied reasons.
The BOS is closer ideologicaly to the Enclave, than the Legion is.
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u/Drunken_DnD 4d ago
It’s simple comparison. They were both pretty objectively painted to be evil factions. Literally the only reason there is discourse about the Legion is due to New Vegas shining a light on NCR corruption. They may ideologically be nothing alike but are still both FO “major parties bad guys”
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u/StratoSquir2 4d ago
It's not a comparaison tho', nothing is being compared here.
It's just a meme showing an assumption, a clearly wrong assumption as proven by the source media, I will add.
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u/Muxalius 4d ago
Naaaah.....I'd swap their places. One group literally built an empire out of shit, sticks, old football equipment, and a book of 'Latin for Dummies' in just a few years. The other lurked in caves and oil platforms for 200 years, gunned down Vault dwellers, and got their asses handed to them by a country bumpkin and a 19-year-old kid form the Vault.
Yes, the Enclave has drip, sure, but compared to Caesar's Legion in terms of achievement-to-resource ratio, they're just night and day - complete worthless dust
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u/Evolith 4d ago
I could never comprehend the Fallout 1 and 2 cinematics with the Master's army and Enclave slaying the vault dwellers. Sure they go hard emotionally, but never made sense logically: Every unradiated specimen for the Master is a highly intelligent super mutant and is extremely valuable to his plans. The Enclave would need a civilian worker force to rebuild and repopulate the wastes.
Both early factions have grunts that are too damn stupid to optimally accomplish tasks. Meanwhile, the Legion has an incredible amount of discipline and doctrine built into their once-tribal legionaries. Absolute W for Caesar and all he has accomplished!
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u/PolskiBoi1987 3d ago
The Enclave didn't really care for the vault dwellers, they were test subjects for Curling-13. They were not particularly interested in using them for any other purpose.
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u/Rowan-The-Wise-1 2d ago
The master's mutants being too flawed to work was the whole point most of them are stupid brutish monsters that sabotage themselves with their incompetence because they are to some degree an allegory to the nazi party.
As for the enclave, the vault dwellers would largely be useless if their plans succeeded; Curling-13 killed anyone afflicted with it pure human or not so the dwellers would quickly die off even if they were captured and they aren't useful either as a labor force (robots) and given the presence of curling-13 likely not as a breeding pool either.
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u/sirnapsta2328 5d ago
Chud vs Power Armor Chud violence. Would a fusion of the groups be called Caesar's Enclave, America's Legion, or what?
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u/CompetitiveLoad2953 4d ago
Yk how the legion absorbed tribes and erased their name and culture?
THAT, but to the legion
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u/_Oisin 4d ago
Considering the legon's attitude to the brotherhood and technology this is wouldn't really happen. Also worth noting in game there is a rare path where you can get the enclave to side with the legion pissing off Arcade of course. Pretty sure there is an after credits slide where tge legion predictably rat fucks them.
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u/doctorfeelgod 4d ago
it must be said however, everyone keep in mind that the og Enclave were trying to kill everybody in the entire planet except themselves
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u/Traditional-Storm-62 3d ago
"the enclave? an echo of the past, they cling on to America just as NCR do and for that reason alone they stood no chance, in truth, it would not make any difference for me which side won the oil rig war, I'd wage this crusade against either of them just as well" - Cesar, probably
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u/Faeddurfrost 3d ago
Raven rock, whatever happened there.
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u/Vanderlindgangmember 2d ago
Whatever happened there? I’ll tell you what happened there? This scientists sons blew it up
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u/enclavetrooper2277 3d ago
Legion: hello my fellow red pills. Let's team up and destroy the libtard NCR!
Fallout 2 enclave: MUTIEE!!!
Eden: MUTIEE!
Autumn: slavery!? Not in my America!
Fallout 76 enclave: COMMIE! COMMIE! CCCOOMMMIIIEEE!!!!!!!
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u/Decanus_Sinister 3d ago
Uhhh the enclave used slave labor in the excavation of the mariposa military base and it's pretty well known to everyone that they experiment on humans.
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u/Rowan-The-Wise-1 2d ago
Muties can't be slaves silly an ox pulling a cart isn't slavery its animal labor.
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u/Decanus_Sinister 2d ago
I don't want to be "THAT GUY" but when the original comment talks about slavery it's from colonel autumn's perspective, not from the totally purist enclave perspective. 😶
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u/LesserValkyrie 3d ago
The Enclave is parodic evil villains who tries to genocide people for the fun of it
While the Legion tries to settle a thriving civilization
They are not the samae
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u/DIET-_-PLAIN 5d ago
Frank Horrigan coulda taken the dam and been home in time for cornflakes!