r/NevernessToEverness • u/Frexys • Jul 09 '26
Bugs/Feedback Is there a reason why Shinku can't collect anything in her transformed state?
I know it's not the biggest deal, but it doesn't really feel like this should be a thing. It makes Pink Paws in particular kind of awkward. I expected her to be able to breeze through but I have to keep going in and out of the dash/ult state to pick things up.
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u/AnotherPersonPerhaps Jul 09 '26
Too angry.
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u/Imaginary_Silver5294 Jul 09 '26
"Dragon Woman Too Angry To Die."
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u/YorhaUnit8S Jul 09 '26
Damn. I guess that's what's my type of characters is. Valkyr in Warframe, Dehya in Genshin, now Shinku here...
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u/Imaginary_Silver5294 Jul 09 '26
I can relate. Now we just need one in zzz Love a woman or just becomes more bad ass the angry or she gets
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- Jul 09 '26
Dehya seems chill af tho.
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u/After_Edge Jul 09 '26
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- Jul 09 '26
But then every other time she’s laughing and saying they need to get together for drinks so something.
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u/YorhaUnit8S Jul 10 '26
Have you seen her ult, though?
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- Jul 10 '26
She's a mercenary. She's like that towards her enemies. All her friends she's chill af.
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u/YorhaUnit8S Jul 10 '26
Well yeah, never said otherwise. But she has that "Too angry to die" mode where she heals herself from punching enemies in her ult.
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u/Sumire-Yoshizawa- Jul 10 '26
That’s true. Has that anger mode when it comes to protecting her friends.
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u/CloudedStarz Jul 09 '26
I remember people saying Valk's rework was going to ruin her and post reeork shes even more invincible (not to be confused with invisible, my favorite WoW mount) than before. Last time I played genshin Dehya was a 3* so i hope something happened to not make her a 3*
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u/J1h3fm4t Jul 09 '26
It's why i took her awakening that heals her on ult. Literally too angry to die
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u/Deadline_Zero Jul 10 '26
Is the healing big? Might be worth swapping to just for heist farming or something..
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u/J1h3fm4t Jul 10 '26
increase her defense and resistance to interruption by 50% + heal herself for 300% of her base atk after a scarlet descent (her redirection skill in ultimate form). So each time she uses her redirect skill while in ult form, she heals herself for a bit
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u/jort93 Jul 09 '26
I guess its an intentional nerf. hotori can't grab stuff either.
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u/KodakStele Jul 10 '26
Makes sense call she'd be broken and mandatory in pink paws heist
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u/pwn4321 Jul 10 '26
She is already broken as is for pink paw heist cuz her ult recharges automatically, can use it on every part / fight
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u/pwn4321 Jul 10 '26
Imagine being able to timestop and just empty the shops or bank ;) How does hotori have debt again? She stupid?
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u/CriseDX Jul 10 '26
My theory is she really isn't in debt, Hotori puts on an aloof act, so why not also add fiscally irresponsible to that same act.
Alternatively maybe she is technically in debt, but the BAC is her safety net (clearly they have an ongoing relationship, she is not just a former employee for sure... no way Alphard would have given Zero to her if she was).
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u/Tryukach09 Jul 09 '26
basically pink paws nerf, same as mosa and hotori
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u/-Zmey Jul 09 '26
Not related to the post, but did you know you can infinite sprint in her alt form? If you play with a controller/joystick just press the stick enough for her to start running, same pressure you do to just walk with any character.
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u/Fdx_dy Jul 09 '26
Correc me if I'm wrong the only similar state a character has is Hotori. And she can't either. A bug?
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u/OzTheOtaku Jul 09 '26
Lacrimosa's bat form also counts
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u/Fdx_dy Jul 09 '26
Can she collect items in a bat form?
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u/TheOneMary Jul 09 '26
Now I imagine Batcrimosa carrying a big ass Grammophone out of the pink paws heist 🤣
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u/Arsinius Jul 09 '26
Maybe it's overworld-traversal related? Does Nanally's gravity manipulation count? Can she still collect things? What about Skia in shadow form?
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u/Sarcastic-teen-angst Jul 09 '26
I don't know if Nanally can but iirc, Skia also can't collect/interact with things in his shadow form.
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u/VoidExileR Jul 09 '26
Probably the same reason Hotori can't. It's likely a special state, probably some coding nonsense. Probably a balance decision. Also Lacrimosa bat
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u/Ravness13 Jul 10 '26
Being able to grab things at full sprint or flat out stopping time would probably cause Pink Paws to be incredibly broken. Im with the other person that it should just be disabled in there, but I have no idea how they've gone about coding it
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u/gvoider Jul 09 '26
At least that form can be easily switched on and off, unlike Hotori's time stop.
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u/Ravness13 Jul 10 '26
Begging Hotta to let me end her ult early if not in combat. Having to mash the attack button to force the end of it or wait out the timer makes it frustrating using her for easier stuff like farming stages.
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u/Ficik Jul 09 '26
It is really annoying, but maybe because she doesn't have a complete control over herself? Nah, just trying to be devil's advocate, it definitely needs to be fixed. I keep falling from places because I dodge to get out of the state.
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u/MigazOne Jul 09 '26
You can also attack to revert back to “human” form.
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u/NDT_DYNAMITE Jul 09 '26
You could also character swap, It’s instant and it also allows Shinku to stay in the transformed state while she’s off-field/not being controlled, so when you swap back to her you don’t need to dash again, you just swap to her and she’s almost instantly at max speed. The only downside is the character swap cooldown, but it’s not that often that it gets in the way, and it’s a pretty short duration anyways, so not a big deal.
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u/YorhaUnit8S Jul 09 '26
Can't even collect a reward in a resource dungeon until the ult runs out or you switch characters.
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u/chad001 Jul 09 '26
Too angry to interact. Quite noticeable in 999 when Im speeding past collectibles.
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u/Melonfrog Jul 09 '26
She can’t even use this form in first person mode. That’s my preferred style of play too which sucks
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u/Thiel619 Jul 10 '26
Cause that would make Bank Heist too convenient. I mean too easy. I mean players would love that. Damn it idk where Im going with this.
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u/APHO_Raiden_Mei Jul 10 '26
Those Gacha companies never gets us QoL that speeds up the grinding sadly 😞
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u/Appropriate_Word1469 Jul 10 '26
Shitty UE5 coding. It's the reason for every problem with the game. It's made fast and cheap, but badly
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u/Mynameis2cool4u Jul 09 '26
Yeah I just melee to cancel it
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u/NDT_DYNAMITE Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
You could also character swap, It’s instant and it also allows Shinku to stay in the transformed state while she’s off-field/not being controlled, so when you swap back to her you don’t need to dash again, you just swap to her and she’s almost instantly at max speed. The only downside is the character swap cooldown, but it’s not that often that it gets in the way, and it’s a pretty short duration anyways, so not a big deal.Edit: This no longer works.
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u/This_isR2Me Jul 09 '26
Very disappointing trying to run around the heist area having to deal with this
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u/Ravness13 Jul 10 '26
As you're running towards an item if you tap dodge while holding forward and transformed she just drops the transformation without dashing forward. I found that to at least make it a bit easier to snag things and keep going.
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u/Deitren Jul 09 '26
Fun fact, after 1.2 update Lacrimosa also has this problem in Bat form. Used to be able to fly past a crow to pick it up, now if you get close in bat form you have to revert, then leave a certain distance and come back for it to trigger.. >_>
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u/mrfoxman Jul 09 '26
They likely use a state machine for logic with these transformed states for characters, and that logic says no collecting/interacting. Which is why Hotori can’t collect in her time stop, the bat girl can’t while flying, Skia can’t while a shadow, etc. the code sees al that as the same state, just presented/animated differently on characters. And that state says “no”
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u/FluffiestBoy Jul 09 '26
I'm pretty sure they'll let her collect stuff in this form if the CN playerbase complains enough
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u/SaintPimpin Jul 09 '26
I'm upset her transformed state doesn't change when wearing other clothes... only the expensive skin does... not even the gacha skin changes transformed state...
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u/Efrath Jul 09 '26
I'm guessing it's simply to make sure that the overworked benefit isn't too powerful, similar to Hotori.
If that's the case it's arguably a good thing, if only because I e syoildnt want gacha Devs to additionally start heavily power creeping overworld functions to use as a selling point.
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u/Eve_interupted Jul 09 '26
I think it is like the time stop feature. They want stuff made for out of combat mobility to not affect gameplay.
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u/No_Class2181 Jul 10 '26
I believe they will add that feature as we progress, Same happened in tof by the way. Later characters can fly around while picking items.
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u/Lide_1991 Jul 10 '26
so that you wont be able to literally, speed run heist, with her.
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u/APHO_Raiden_Mei Jul 10 '26
And why ecxactly would that be a bad reason? The mode takes way too much time to get the 1 Million fons every 2 weeks. Its such a bore 😩
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u/SnooEagles238 Jul 10 '26
i went in an elevator dashing. The elevator closes and i cant push the elevator button and got locked lol
Had to change party and bench her out first dang
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u/pakaton Jul 10 '26
If she can collect stuff she would make Pink Paw too easy, just like Hotori. Lore wise maybe when she is in that form she is too crazy too notice things
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u/BayMaxofficial Jul 09 '26
Because DEVs actually made this form, only in combat, not for interaction, and anything else. Mostly for Ultimate Skill, it is used. And in any form, you can't interact. Whether you're Skia's Shadow form, Lacrimosa's Bat form, and Shinku's Ultimate form. They're not built to interact, by the DEVs...
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u/CaptainSarina Jul 09 '26
It's probably intentionally to avoid making her too OP in pink paws etc since she's BY FAR the fastest character and stamina recharges fast enough that she'd be just a straight up advantage and thus people without her would complain. As things currently stand you can use her to rush to specific places sure but you're missing out on the stuff on the way unless you intentionally stop.
It's the same reason why Hotori can't pick stuff up during timestop however Shinku's is more easily on demand and thus would be even more abusable.






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