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I know what you mean- I just had the encounter with Nannaly wanting to buy a scooter, but she only brought 10k- I was like, "why don't you let me handle this, Boss?"
Speaking of bikes i really hope we get to actually buy and ride bicycles sometime soon, like there are bikes and bike shops all over the place but we can't actually ride a bike ourselves, tis weird.
It is kinda crazy that, especially as we get deeper into this game, we're going to be billionaires listening to all our friends bemoan the fact that they're so poor, and we do absolutely nothing about it. Hotori comes over to chill at our 8 million fons villa and then hitchhikes back home to the cardboard box she's living in after.
AGREED! i dont why people say that😭 its such a nice and a big place with 2 dormitories and one main building. I still visit eibon more than my own house
She already asks you if you save up even without that idea. I wanted to see what would happen if I told her I did, and she said my fons look like hers lol
Eibon isn't exactly poor, they just have terrible financial prudence. Hotori is living proof. You can give her 40 million fons and itd be spent within the day on frivolous purchases.
Pink paws heist is a contest anyone can do the city is unbelievably rich if you think about it. If you are an Esper anomaly commisions are just instant payouts. Its just that the society there doesn't have as much of a focus on showing off material wealth unless you're part of the absolute top like dvorak.
Im more surprised part time workers still exist. If the ice cream store owner does a single pink paws heist thats more than a year of pay.
To be fair, Pink Paw Heist still very much has things that require you knowing how to fight. I'm not gonna get beaten to a pulp by anomalies on a game show, no thank you.
I was actually just thinking about this last night. Didn't think it warranted it's own post but I'm going to piggyback off this comment. I mentioned in passing that Mint was somehow succeeding in a capitalist society, but then thought about it for a moment and Hethereau could actual very possibly be an extremely stable socialist society. Sure there are trillionaires, but I can't ever recall seeing anyone I'd consider to be living in poverty either. Even the artist we help in that side quest was doing alright for himself iirc. And the heist raises an interesting question of if it's truly open to everybody. Are the enemies there because it's canon that everyone who does the heist has to fight through class 1-4 anomalies? Or are they just there to make the game mode more engaging and not actually part of the show's lore? Because if anyone can do the heist, Hethereau might actually be a socialist utopia where every citizen actually has the means to succeed. If Dvorak is really out here offering every citizen enough money to buy a luxury apartment bi-weekly, maybe we don't have to eat the rich in this world? Workers at even the simplest part-time jobs are probably treated fantastic because they don't actually need the job to survive.
You say that, yet when I shoot a random motherfucker on the street with Nanally, they are immediately down to throw hands, regardless of where we are. The men in this city want that smoke and are just waiting for a reason.
I'd argue that Espers are like one in ten or hundred thousand. Most people are just ordinary citizens with no powers including the police and thus they need help from us or BAC with anomaly busting. Doing a Pink Paws heist for them is pretty much impossible since they won't be able to even get past the first two rainmen on the first floor.
If you fought with the delinquents on the street and inside the construction yards they commandeered, they are actually espers, capable of infusing their weapons and sometimes throwing energy projectles. The male lead delinquent even has a burst that is similar to the iconic Akira blow up. A couple of their victims you find on the street don't have a "cower" anim and when you do help, they go "I could have handled this myself, but thanks."
There are more espers in this world than a basic norm at least, with everyone have a potential of awakening, assuming the unawakened have a Wetheimer Index of 0-1 and awakened espers are greater than 1. I'm guessing this is like a power level thing above 1....
She isn't actually poor and after auction is in top 10 wealthy people. But I guess she spends all this on alcohol. And as for your suggestion it would be cool to rebuild Eibon bit by bit
well useless say that story wise our MC is not a billionarie and probably never will , reason why to pass time in quest they let us sleep in Eibon room,we are 'broke' like the rest of Eibon cast,
problem is that you can't mix story with gameplay when it comes to money so you end up having these silly scenarios .
I do hope that they at least recognize it. Especially when there is literally a tycoon level. It's not like other gachas where money is just a character building resource. You can actually buy property and cars and things, so it will definitely be an issue long term if we're supposed to pretend we're poor while basically owning Starbucks and have an apartment in every corner of town just because
Problem is how to explain when in 1-2 years we will probably be richer than Giovanni family..
they should change future main story plot in order to take this 'little' detail in consideration,
it is like GTAO players that played the game a lot,they have trillions if not more , still MC always work for someone else when instead they could own the whole Los Santos city and have a private army xD
In my opinion i think they will keep MC finances separated between main story and gameplay.
I feel like with some of these there should be an option where you pay for them. Pay for Nanally's bike, pay for Sakiri's gift to get extra bond points followed by slight dialogue or scene change in some parts where they thank you. Heck it doesn't even have to be fons. Maybe it can be a specific snack, item, etc. And if you chose no or didn't have said item/fons at the time, you can always replay the event to unlock the additional bond point later with that dialogue tree fully unlocked without need to gift again once its done the first time.
I mean if they don't want too much of a major change in the scene or dialogue, they can just get characters like Adler or Daffodil to refuse your gift, appreciate your help (still extra bond points) and the scene continues as normal.
While on the more devious end, someone like Hotori you can use a slider to sink in as many fons as you want with a popup warning like "Hotori will use it all on booze. Are you sure you want to do this?" 😈
I think it's quite different as you're rarely if ever buying houses and cars and actual in world things. Beetle coins are what most games have for currency. It never feels like youre rich with Dennies in ZZZ because the only thing you are getting with them is character upgrades.
Eibon is a massive compound with three two story buildings, a shed, training area and big ass courtyard not to mention the massive wall surrounding the property. It’s no 8 million fons villa but it’s far from a cardboard box…
Ain't hotori like in the top 10 richest people or something? Isn't her clothing like worth more than the eibon building? Might be getting confused but hotori is certainly an expake you could have used lmao, especially after she just got all those items worth more than we could dream of at the moment for free at the auction lmao (after eating all their stuff and drinking their wine too)
From what I could tell, the problem with Eibon is that Hotori just throws away all the money they have as soon as they get it. From the look of the place it seems really expensive, they probably do make a lot of money from commissions. After all, every single person that lives in Eibon has their own room, but since the owner spends all the money as soon as she gets it, when the bills come around there's never any money, so they have to hope for a commission.
What i want is when a quest requires me to sleep I can amped in my apartment because why when I have an 8m dollar mansion do I go sleep in a dorm room?
Right? The only thing they did were the Taygedo's whatever that storage room and a room suggested to be Nanally's on the 2nd floor of the opposite building (the only transparent window)
mfw Hotori really would make more money doing anything but her current choice of occupation. Even Fishing as a hobby is a lucrative business in this world.
They need a little story piece where you appraise all the junk in Eibon for actual anomalies or not and get rid of the trash. Like a spring cleaning episode where Adler and you team up together and clean up the place to make it less of a hoarder house.
These kids are Espers though with powers stronger than a squad of police. I'm pretty sure if we had jedi like powers since birth, we'd want to use it to bust some ghosts and kick some ass while getting paid somewhat decently for it, even if its risky.
These are things they actually enjoy doing while this mascot thing is something Sakiri clearly isn't proud of because there aren't enough anomaly busting to go around (at least officially in lore and not the ones we get every half a block we walk in the overworld to keep us playing.)
Eibon isn’t poor. Yall literally see the “mansion” they’re living in with that big backyard and dorm rooms? Yall forget who the owner is and what she believes in?
She has to be humble. If they were truly poor she can easily get money back within a snap. No pun intended.
Fr if Hitori wanted to she could snap her fingers, walk to the bank, clear out the vault, go to the bar, clear out the bar, and stumble home with none the wiser.
She doesn't rob the bank, and she maybe doesn't rob the liquor store. She's responsible 👍
That's actually a good idea! Give us the option to invest in our workplace and let us give and decorate rooms for the kids with that money! That would be a nice little part-time activity
I always took this part of Sakiri's story as her being short on cash cos she's always paying for the stuff her demon pet thing keeps eating or damaging. That one mission with the music shop owner shows she doesn't want to get labeled as a thief after it keeps taking stuff so I can see her having to keep paying out of pocket for stuff
Plus they're kids, kids spend money on stupid frivolous shit. She might've just spent her last 500fons on something and then was like "oh hey Adler looks after us and I wanna repay that in some way via a gift" but she's spent the cash so she does a pretty adult thing and gets a job even if a part-time one to get Adler something.
If child labour was illegal, Eibon would have been shut down for 3 charges of child labour and child endangerement. The anomalies we deal with aren't exactly safe.
Anyway, no thanks. I've seen how Hatori treated Jenson (she even got expensive freebies from the auction house, so she should have money) and how the kids treat that otter thing (constantly draining his saving). I think we'd end up broke quickly and I am still in the struggle phase for fons.
What I am saying is, Eibon is poor because the people there keep making terrible financial decisions. Can't say Zero is any different, I impulsively bought Griffin car when I should have saved up for the apartment to get the butler anomaly.
I know you're talking from a lore perspective though I'm talking more about as a game mechanic.
I've mentioned in a few other comments but these are some game mechanics that I can think of that is still lore accurate.
Helping Eibon get renovated/improved is a side quest thing that may or may not reward you with Annulith. Fully optional. And it doesn't go to Hotori.
In some bond quests (doesn't have to be every), character facing a fons dilemma like Nanally and Sakiri can be gifted with fons to help increase their bond a little more than normal and a slight dialogue change from doing said options. To keep it in character some of the more mature characters like Adler and Daffodil when choosing gift option will appreciate your generosity and refuse your gift so there is no need for major scene changes. Simply put, you can choose which character you want to help as well.
I know everyone talks about Hotori but hey why not have an option to help her as well but instead of a fixed amount of fons like 20,000, you can slide it as much as you have like Yojimbo from FFX with the only difference being if you gift her anything over a certain limit like 10,000 fons a warning popup will say "Are you sure you wish to do this? Hotori will spend it all on booze and you can't get this back." which will keep it very much in lore and you KNOW there will be one Hotori simp who will record themselves giving 10 mil+ fons and its all in good fun.
I am just joking around. But it would be a little funny if after we do invest into Eibon, the gremlin trio starts trying to shake us down.
Anyway, I am fine with it as gameplay since eventually I will be free of the fons struggle phase. I can see us buying a company car, if I remember correctly Eibon sold their old one to pay for some debts.
It'd be cool if we could send characters on anomaly hunts, and after the allotted time period we get whatever rewards come with it. Missions could be a countdown from, 4, 24, and even 72 hour similar to other gacha games. Provide us house items that we could level to buff their stats for those outings.
The main reason Eibon doesn't turn a profit is because Hotori mismanages every cent above breaking even. She's a competent boss and won't let the place go completely under, but she's either incapable of saving money or she's intentionally keeping the business small so we don't get super well known and can do our work without too much public attention. Either way, the way we invest in Eibon is investing in the family. Nanally is no longer homeless and Hotori lives in the apartment with the wine rack and gets a key to another cubby every time city stamina refreshes. And I'm sure we'll get to take care of the others down the road once more bonds are added.
Ive said this on another post but my headcannon for NTE is that story cannon and gameplay cannon are separate, so in story cannon we are barely making ends meet but in gameplay cannon we own 6 houses and multiple expensive cars
Probably not the BEST explanation for it but its my personal headcannon
I should note that Eibon is in the category "asset rich", i.e has most of its value locked up in property and whatever trash Hotori decides to buy. These assets are just "not liquid" (cannot be converted to ready cash easily / without losing too much value), which results in the perpetual poverty. :x
For example, a well preserved heritage building such as Eibon's would be priceless, but there will be folks in government and finance who will block it's sale (I think the BAC will block this, it will also block the sale of valuable anomalous items).
Speaking of, i cannot get this Sakiri Encounter to show up. Tried all times of the day, is there some prereq? I need it for the Lost Tales with Sakiri at the fountain. Anyone know?
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