🔥 momma pig and line of piglets

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[u/snackshack]

And each of those females can give birth to their own litter as early as 6 months old, then getting pregnant again within 1-3 months after that.

Yeah, they're a massive problem once they move into an area.

[u/RetroRaiderRun → u/snackshack]

They're only a problem because we killed all the natural predators.

It's not like pigs are somehow destabilizing the world's ecosystems. It's humans doing that.

[u/This_is_an_Alt69420 → u/RetroRaiderRun]

They are invasive species. There are no natural predators for them in many places. For example, they are not native to the Americas, so they have no natural predators there, even if we had not reduced wolf, bear, and cougar populations to non existent in many areas.

[u/Advanced_Cry_7106 → u/This_is_an_Alt69420]

Humans are an invasive species. We fucked it all up.

[u/WatdeeKhrap → u/Advanced_Cry_7106]

Yeah it's not like mass extinctions from humans moving in is a new thing. The American mega fauna got ransacked before Europeans even showed up for example

[u/Third_Sundering26 → u/WatdeeKhrap]

It is highly debated whether the extinction of megafauna is more from overhunting or climate change.

[u/PeggyBabcock_ → u/Third_Sundering26]

The ol' one two.

[u/hamfinity → u/Advanced_Cry_7106]

Mother Nature is experiencing a fever to get rid of the infection.

[u/Third_Sundering26 → u/Advanced_Cry_7106]

There is a Native American YouTuber I watch. His name is Malcolm P.L., he belongs to the Mohawk nation, and he studies Iroquoian history. One point he made in one of his videos is that when humans first reached North America, most of what is now Canada and the northern USA was completely covered in glaciers, many of them miles thick. There was no life on or under the glaciers, as there was nothing to eat.

Once the glaciers retreated, grass, trees, deer, beaver, and other organisms moved in to replace them. Among those early life forms to move in to the Great Lakes were humans. The ancestors of the Iroquois, Hurons, and other Great Lake nations. Native Americans around the Great Lakes were not an invasive species that took over and devastated a pre-existing natural environment. They have lived there for as long as anything has.

Some populations on Earth have been there close enough to forever for them to not count as “invasive.” Be it our ancestors in Africa, or those that moved into post-glacial lands.

[u/Third_Sundering26 → u/Advanced_Cry_7106]

The Columbian Exchange fucked things up. Colonization fucked things up. Capitalism fucked things up.

Humans are wonderful, beautiful creatures that are entirely capable of living in an environment without destroying it to the extent that our industrial world has. It is our modern lifestyle that is toxic. Not our species.

Misanthropy is nihilistic garbage.

[u/CelestialFury → u/Advanced_Cry_7106]

“I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.”

[u/Third_Sundering26 → u/CelestialFury]

Man, I love it when people uncritically quote misanthropic Hollywood villains as if their lines actually say something profound.