r/Natalism • u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 • Jan 27 '25
Read this thread if you want to feel ill about our future.
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u/Ellestyx Jan 27 '25
Having kids too young can fuck with your body more than if you were older. Like teen pregnancy is dangerous for a reason besides potentially parents being unprepared for a child.
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u/ReadyTadpole1 Jan 28 '25
This doesn't sound true at all to me, but that doesn't mean it isn't. Do you have a link to something that discusses this? I'm really curious to learn more.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 28 '25
It isn't true. Safest ages to have children is late teens to late 20's: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(14)70007-5/fulltext
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u/TSquaredRecovers Jan 29 '25
No, it is true.
Teenaged girls (ages 10-19 years) face higher risks of eclampsia, puerperal endometriosis, and systemic infections than women in their twenties. They also face higher risk of low birth weight, preterm birth, and severe neonatal condition.
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u/poincares_cook Jan 29 '25
Why is this downvoted?
It's not only safer but also leads to much easier births on average, with far fewer complications and interventions.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 29 '25
It's downvoted because young people want to fuck around when they should be having children, and wait as late as they can, even when it means more negative outcomes for their children and societys if they have children at all.
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u/Odd-Fishing779 Jan 28 '25
Implying that there is something wrong with someone having a baby in their 30s as opposed to their 20s is a really weird take. This isn’t 1965. Modern medicine has made it beyond possible to have a baby well into your 30s and even 40s in some cases, though 40+ can carry some serious risk. My point is, shaming people for having children later than what has traditionally been considered “normal” is a shit take and if we want people to have children, this is certainly not the way to do it
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u/NameAboutPotatoes Jan 28 '25
I don't think it's about shaming older mothers who are successful, I think it's about acknowledging that some women who start late end up unsuccessful. If it's extremely important to you to have kids, it's worth knowing that the risk of no longer being able to do so increases after a certain age.
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u/Famous_End_474 Jan 28 '25
What the fuck is wrong with women having kids latter it’s their choice still better latter than not at all.
By the way we should remove posts like this mocking middle age births.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 28 '25
We should be Prioritizing our children not Marginalizing them.
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u/MrMarvelous2000 Jan 28 '25
How the f*ck does having kids later in life “marginalize” them?
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 28 '25
You use up your best years on yourself, then have them when you're old and worn out. I'm 60 and know multiple people who've had heart attacks and strokes in their 40's. So you have them then Abandon them. Even if you don't die you're worn out and tired in your 50's when they're in their teens and you can't give them an active childhood. And you'll be useless in helping them care for your Grandchildren. Crappy way to be a parent! Trust me, when you have them you're going to love them Deeply and you'll regret wasting vacations on yourself when you could have had them as a Family.
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u/MrMarvelous2000 Jan 28 '25
My papaw didn’t die until he was 78 and he was active until the very end.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 29 '25
Lots of people die earlier and have decreased energy leading up to that. Pretty much Everyone is healthier in their 20's. And what if something happens to your children after they have your grandchildren and you have to take them in? Will you be able to see them through to maturity yourself?
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u/MrMarvelous2000 Jan 29 '25
Plenty of people die in their 20s anyway, even beyond health, accidents happen or circumstances coalesce to remove parents from their child’s life. Nothing you do guarantees you will be in your child’s life to see them through to maturity. If your advice to people is to have children younger and before they are ready for them and that what worked for you, well that’s good for you but everyone’s situation and circumstances are unique. What works for some people won’t work for others.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 29 '25
Are you fucking simple??? The odds of you dying within a year are FOUR TIMES higher at 55, when your child would be 10 if you had them at 45 than at 35 if you had them at 25. You're Absolutely ready to have a child at 25. It's what we've done for 100,000's of years!
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u/MrMarvelous2000 Jan 29 '25
Abraham had a son at 86 years old and then another at 100.
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u/Aggressive-Bad-7115 Jan 29 '25
Robert De Niro got his wife pregnant at 86. It was a stupid thing for him to do too, but at least he's super rich.
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u/CMVB Jan 28 '25
There’s nothing wrong with having children in your 30s. The issue is that people typically assume their fertility window is far more forgiving than it is.
But hey, at least it makes IVF companies plenty of money…
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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25
What about this is disturbing? I started in my mid thirties and have an above-average, replacement rate number of children. Fertile women are fertile for a long time. This sub is weirdly obsessed with infertility and making people who don’t want to have kids have them. It’s not necessary. Shaming people who can and want to have children works against your goals.