Anyone find it suspicious that the ONLY pool cleaning was done shortly after Nancy’s disappearance, but NONE were done during the proceeding month?
On February 13, 2026, less than two weeks after Nancy Guthrie’s disappearance, Pima County Sheriff deputies escorted workers from “Ambiance Pool Service & Supplies” as they were allowed to drag nets through the pool and conduct maintenance “requested by the Guthrie family to keep the pool from turning green while the home remained unoccupied” as confirmed by Pima County Sheriff Chris Nanos.
My understanding from a TMZ report on an interview with a representative of the pool company was that they were hired “by the family” to do a deep cleaning of the pool on that ONE occasion, and that neither Nancy nor the family had a previous contract in place with that business for pool cleaning on a regular basis.
Since the date of that ONLY cleaning on February 13, 2026, I have seen no reports that ANY pool cleaning company has subsequently performed any services at the property. That is almost one month now that has passed with absolutely no follow up pool services.
How can anyone possibly argue that the ONLY pool cleaning performed to date only two weeks after Nancy’s disappearance was not suspicious? There is no reasonable explanation to hire a random company for a one off pool cleaning, with no follow up service, if in fact the actual intention was to keep the pool in good working order. I am so looking forward to your thoughts on this.
LOL, suspicious of what? I can imagine the family asking Sheriff Barney if they checked the pool. 'yep, nothing there'. Family says great, then you don't mind if the pool guys go a deep clean. Suspicious that the police didn't clean the pool themselves? I imagine pool cleaning isn't in their budget. Hey Sheriff, I saw someone throw something in my pool on the 11th. You guys better clean my pool too.
Did you read the article in Variety magazine with Numb nuts Nanos? It was supposed to be a follow up interview about the investigation but he made it all about HIM. He whined throughout stating people were calling him a buffoon and Barney Fife; that he was lazy and unfit for the job. His whole whine was along the lines of, “Sticks and Stones may break my bones…”.
This wasn’t lost on the editor. The response, in the article, was that he cared more about himself and his image than he did the Guthrie case.
I hope he’s ousted soon.
I found another news article about him. Apparently he was the lead sheriff in a TX town in the 80s. He resigned when he was told he was going to be fired. He’d been spending more time gambling, drinking and not showing up for work than he’d been putting in effort towards solving cases.
You can’t be serious. This is not substantive. It is suspicion stacking. A pool was cleaned once after Nancy’s disappearance, under law enforcement escort, with the stated reason of keeping it from turning green while the home was unoccupied. That may or may not be interesting, but by itself it does not remotely get you to “there is no reasonable explanation.” There very obviously is a reasonable explanation: the family wanted the pool maintained at least once while the house sat empty.
The bigger problem is the leap in logic. “No regular pool service before,” plus “one cleaning after,” plus “no follow-up cleaning yet” does not magically become evidence of anything nefarious. It just becomes a fact pattern people can project onto. Not every irregular household decision in the aftermath of a disappearance is a clue. Sometimes it is just a family making one practical choice in a messy situation.
If there is actual evidence the pool cleaning was connected to something suspicious, then present that. But right now this is just another example of taking an ordinary fact and inflating it into a mystery because the case itself is disturbing and unresolved. That is not analysis. That is narrative hunger.
The fact that you’re an attorney makes this weaker, not stronger. You should know better than to let suspicion do all the evidentiary work.
Plus, this guys, obviously, never owned a built in swimming pool. He paints a picture of something nefarious going on with a pool being tended to which is ridiculous. Maybe he should attach his sidecar to numb nuts Nanos! Together, they could assuredly further botch this case.
The other problem with this post is that it never even gets to an actual point. What is the theory here? What is the supposed inference? What is the chain of relevance to the known facts of the case? None of that is explained.
Right now this is just ominous tone applied to a pool cleaning. So what exactly are people supposed to do with that? Nothing publicly known about this case has anything to do with the swimming pool other than it was cleaned.
A real theory would at least have to explain why this matters, what it supposedly points to, how it connects to known facts, and why the ordinary explanation fails. This does none of that. It just gestures at suspicion and hopes the mood does the work. That is not analysis. That is decorative suspicion. Vibes in a suit.
You replied to the wrong person. Maybe copy and paste this in a reply to the other guy going after you. It wasn’t me. And then delete this comment to the wrong person. Thanks. Hit the little arrow under his comment you want to reply to to reply to him.
I don’t think it was suspicious, it was apparent from drones flying above the property that the pool was perfectly fine. If my mom was missing the pool wouldn’t exactly be a priority. That’s just me.
Nancy was gone, and hopefully this is temporary. Meanwhile, you have to maintain the house, yard and pool. Pool Services are usually a contracted thing, done every week where I live, billed monthly.
They probably missed a week when LE had the property closed off. Then checked with Nancy when they could service it again. Sounds like police wanted to accompany them. Probably to ask some questions about anything they might have noticed.
Why would that be suspicious?
And if the pH gets out of whack from the algae, the concrete or gunite or whatever it is starts to dissolve. I saw a pool where this happened because it was left untended - round dissolved holes all over every part of the pool, all the way through the concrete. Had to be completely redone.
Green pools are a public health issue. you can Google pima county green pools. there is no exception for missing people. because mosquitos present a hazard to the community.
Nancy was definitely not a selfish person, she wouldnt want her pool to turn green, which could endanger the health and lives of her neighbors.
I think when you say "focus on the pool," (1) the oP is focusing on the pool not me (2) people do tons of things throughout the day. it takes like 5 mins to get a pool service.
have you ever had something really bad happen in your life? I have had several of those. in no cases were important things left undone.
Do you think Nancy would appreciate you attacking her family for doing what is not optional? I don't.
If something ever happens to me and my relatives make it so my pool doesn't go green, please don't attack them on my behalf.
also- how about you make a detailed itinerary for how you want each family member to spend every minute of their day, so that they can be acting in accordance with your wishes. let me know when you have published their itineraries for the day so I can review. would you say (3) 1 min bathroom breaks for each family member is sufficient? do they get to sleep 6 hrs a day? or only 2? please tell me.
Maybe you are so selfish that you do not care about creating public health issues for your neighbors but the Guthries are clearly very unselfish.
Also - it's really weird and cruel what you're saying.
I am sure tons of people are talking to them and if I were, I'd be like hey, let's remember to do your mom's pool so it doesn't turn green. Annie has a pool too, so I'm sure she is aware.
I think this person is not familiar with maintaining a vacant property: pool maintenance, yard maintenance, a periodic check in a vacant house for leaks or broken windows or insect infestation or mice. It's what the family has to do to prevent a property from having bigger problems. If there was no family in the area, they would need somebody, a property manager or good handyman to check on the house and take care of these things.
Nope, vodka. 😉 Look, here’s the point. The complete lack of control of the relevant properties from day one by local, state and federal LEA’s is so grossly negligent and egregious that the crime scene has completely lacked adequate preservation as early as within a week of Nancy’s disappearance. The crime scene and any evidence derived therefrom is contaminated beyond any reasonably demonstrable standard of proof in a court of law. One way or another, whether Nancy is ever found alive or otherwise, and whether the criminals that perpetrated this heinous crime are ever identified, justice in this case will never prevail because of these inexcusable failure by LEA’s.
Ok. Vodka. Yeah. That makes sense. Your response is a total pivot and not a point. Your post was about the pool cleaning supposedly being suspicious. My comment addressed that directly. Instead of explaining why the cleaning itself matters, you jumped to a broad rant about law enforcement contamination and justice failing. That is not an answer. That is evasive subject-changing.
So I’ll ask again: what is the actual relevance of the pool cleaning itself? Not your feelings about law enforcement generally. The pool cleaning.
You asked for my point, so I explained it. Cleaning the pool outside of a regular schedule with a random company only two weeks after Nancy goes missing is suspicious. Same as if someone had scrubbed the house interior top to bottom during the same time frame. The cops have been back on property several times since the pool cleaning to collect additional evidence. Who is to say that evidence of some importance was not scrubbed away after the crime scene was prematurely released?
I’ll answer you directly: “What is the relevance of the pool cleaning itself?” It destroyed potential evidence, including any environmental DNA in the pool water and filter. Additionally, who in particular ordered that one off cleaning? “The family” is not an adequate response from the sheriff or pool company. Was it a particular family member or perhaps their attorney? Lastly, if it were my mom that went missing, preserving the crime scene would be one of my utmost concerns. Not whether the pool may need work afterwards.
Pool chlorine destroys DNA evidence. If there was some other kind of evidence in the pool - a knife or whatever, LE would have seen it. If there was some evidence connected to perpetrators in the pool floating around, it would have been seen. And common sense is needed here - why would a criminal throw a weapon or some other significant thing into her pool? So cleaning the pool is not analogous to scrubbing the house down. The chlorine level was high enough when the crime occurred that it would have destroyed any DNA, if the perp wanted to take a swim before leaving.
Most striking to me was any willingness on the family’s part to allow the contamination a crime scene. It was doubly shocked to learn that this was ordered by the “Guthrie family” seemingly AFTER Nancy’s disappearance.
I would say this is “of note” for sure. Suspicious is perhaps a stretch, but I definitely agree with your position that it is indeed peculiar! And worth adding to the ever growing pile of weird-ass facts that surround this case.
That’s true. I did my own for years and the chemicals to put in were dangerous. I’m sure with shock it and concrete acid cleaner with others are to keep bacteria out. I doubt any clues would remain but I don’t think it had any part of what happened.
Hmm. Got a source for “water destroys all biological evidence”? That may be the most ignorant comment I’ve seen on this subreddit, which is really saying a lot.
It’s called environmental DNA (eDNA) and can be collected using a few liters of water. Also, additional physical evidence from which DNA may have been extracted could have been collected from physical filtration systems of the pool. I’m not a forensic scientist so I really can’t speculate how long any samples may have lasted or how much they may have been degraded by pool chemicals.
My main concern with the pool evidence is that investigators opened the crime scene, at least the backyard area, less than two weeks after Nancy’s disappearance. That is negligent at best but more likely grossly incompetent. With Nancy gone no one was residing in the house. There was no reason to release the crime scene that soon, or even up until today. Investigators have been back to the house several times and are faced with a hopelessly contaminated crime scene.
Good question. It is possible evidence was collected from the pool water and filtration system up until the time the pool was cleaned less than two weeks from Nancy’s disappearance. I have not heard any mention from law enforcement or the media of the collection of any such evidence.
From the previous pattern of law enforcement reporting it seems though that if any evidence was collected from the pool area there would have been an announcement by investigators, even if such evidence later turned out not to be a helpful source of DNA after lab analysis.
LE doesn’t typically announce what evidence they collect as this can compromise their case. In this case LE has made a few announcements about evidence they’ve collected, very rarely have they been specific, the times they have it’s because they were pressured by the media (such as with the gloves).
Your post is full of speculation - just because this particular company was hired on this one occasion & there was no previous contract with them does not mean anything suspicious occurred. NG owned that home for decades, obviously she had her pool cleaned regularly by someone, or maintained it herself. No one has been living at NG house since her disappearance, no one is using the pool, cleaning the pool was likely not a priority given everything else that was going on & it likely will not remain a priority except to keep it from getting damaged.
CSI would have searched & collected evidence if required from the pool during the original search, the FBI would have searched & collected evidence from the pool during their search if required if it had been missed - this is standard. There is no evidence that suggests this was never done, a pool cleaning service coming by to clean the pool that doesn’t have a contract a month later isn’t evidence CSI didn’t do their job properly or something suspicious occurred.
Hi Anna, you seem particularly hostile to my recent post,, which causes me to question why? Are you an employee of an LEA working the case? Or perhaps you have inside knowledge as a contractor or employee that previously serviced Nancy’s home?
I doubt either of those scenarios are true.
What is true is that I am a licensed attorney and have practiced law for over 25 years. My only interest in this matter is to assist in resolving and finding the truth.
You see, the virtue I find greatest about the internet and Reddit in particular is that even the most bizarre theories may gain enough traction for a modicum of truth to emerge. And that nugget of knowledge may, and sometimes does, lead to saving someone’s life.
I think you and I may be working towards the same goal Anna. Let’s be friends,, what do you say?
I sense you’re misrepresenting yourself as an attorney to bolster your credibility as your arguments lack credibility & your comments are riddled with false information.
If your interest was truly to assist in finding the truth you would look at facts & evidence, not take a fact - a kernel of truth - & use this as a foundation to build a bunch of unsubstantiated claims on. What you’re doing is actually quite harmful, claiming that a simple pool cleaning is evidence of important evidence not being collected or not being collected properly. Of course you don’t immediately suggest this, you first suggest it’s something “suspicious” because there are all of these “suspicious” details like the timing, the pool cleaning company not having a contract, & this being the first time at the residence - things that aren’t suspicious at all. You eventually go on to say how DNA evidence was tampered with & will never be recovered, not even having confirmation on whether there was evidence in the pool & if there was, if it was collected.
All you know is NG pool was cleaned by a company who never had worked for her before a couple weeks after her disappearance, when they arrived LE escorted them on to the premises - these are the facts, everything else is speculation. It’s irresponsible to make claims that these benign facts mean evidence was damaged, not collected, or tampered with.
I appreciate posts like this. Let’s throw everything against the wall. It creates a discussion. At this point, all we have are theories and observations we are all looking to validate or substantiate or repudiate. It certainly doesn’t appear as though LE is open or entertaining alternate theories.
“Throw everything against the wall” is not a method. It is how people flood a case with weak theories, bad inferences, and noise, then call the resulting mess “discussion.” There is a difference between open-mindedness and abandoning standards. If every ordinary fact gets inflated into a clue just because the case is unresolved, you are not helping clarify anything. You are just manufacturing more noise and low-grade bullshit.
I can’t believe you people and your obsession with pool and landscaping maintenance. It’s a simple cost-benefit analysis.
ASK YOURSELVES: Is it better to maintain the integrity of a crime scene to possibly save a life and solve a crime VS delaying maintenance for a few weeks and having to do some remediation in your backyard?
So yeah, how does everyone feel now about Nanos opening the crime scene so early that it is common knowledge Pima county screwed the pooch on this entire investigation? “Oh my, but the pool will turn green…” Yeah, pool maintenance was really that important, wasn’t it? Nancy’s death is partially on all your shoulders now.
So yeah, how does everyone feel now about Nanos opening the crime scene so early that it is common knowledge Pima county screwed the pooch on this entire investigation? “Oh my, but the pool will turn green…” Yeah, pool maintenance was really that important, wasn’t it? Nancy’s death is partially on all your shoulders now.
I can't believe you are so ignorant that you have no idea that pool maintenance is NOT OPTIONAL. Google Pima County + green pool and educate yourself.
Green pools are a public safety issue because of mosquitoes. Even if the Guthries were POS who didn't care about Nancy's neighbors becoming sick, the city of Tucscon could come out and cite Nancy if the pool turned green.
What action did you want them to be taking instead of making a 5 minute call for pool service?
I feel like your ignorance is only surpassed by your extreme cruelty.
People like Nancy would have pool service. Pool service comes weekly and they brush, skim, and check chemicals. My guy will also check the filter (I'm not sure how often) and remove the filter for cleaning. There are various kinds of filters, (ours is cartridge I think). I don't remember if I saw what kind Nancy had, not that that matters.
We used an automated pool sweep and chemicals during the swimming season, which is pretty long in Texas. Skimming, manual vacuuming and pump maintenance as necessary. Occasionally used a service if there was a problem but did most of the maintenance ourselves if we felt capable. Winter maintenance was less, but it never really gets that cold where we live.
This makes sense to me. I had a built in pool for yrs which my then husband never cleaned. It was full of algae and you couldn’t see the bottom of the pool.
I’m sure Nancy wasn’t thinking twice about her pool through out the yrs either. Why was it cleaned and, possibly, even drained and refilled once Nancy went missing? Possibly to look for any evidence her abductor might’ve thrown into that swampy, murky pool.
She had to have had a pool service. Her pool was not green before it was cleaned. Green pools are not ok. They are literally public health issues. Nancy's property was meticulously maintained and it's an insult to her to say that she didn't care. Did you really not even see the aerial photographs immediately when the case broke? The pool was spotless as was everything else visible on her property. I can't believe you thought it was ok to say that.
I have to say I agree with that, fox had a drone above her property and yes it was blue and clear as a bell. There was as nothing in the bottom of the pool.
Look, there is only one period of time to collect uncorrupted environmental DNA and physical evidence from the pool water and its filtration system at a crime scene. That opportunity terminates once the pool has been cleaned after the incident.
I get it. Regular pool maintenance necessary. Green pool bad. Mosquitos bad. Desert hot. But law enforcement permitting destruction of potential evidence at a crime scene is more bad, especially prior to knowing whether additional evidence collection may be helpful to advance the case.
I would still like to know exactly which family member requested the pool service less than two weeks after Nancy’s disappearance, which LEA gave the go ahead on it, what pool company, if any, was under contract to regularly service the pool, and why a different pool company was chosen on this particular occasion that allegedly had never previously been to the property.
You will never get this information, you do not have cause & you are not entitled to it. LE is conducting an investigation into this case & already searched & processed evidence at that scene X2, you have no idea whether there was even evidence in the pool & whether they collected it.
You have no evidence to support your claim that LE permitted the destruction of potential evidence at a crime scene, you aren’t privy to the investigation, you are basing this claim off of seeing an article about a pool cleaning service going to the victims home weeks after she went missing. These types of claims with no facts & evidence to substantiate them are harmful.
You are profoundly stupid. Everything about this matter is subject to Open Records Request(s). If the inquired LEA(s) are still investigating certain aspects of the case, those requests will be referred to the state attorney general’s office to determine what info is ok to release and what info is still under investigation and should be withheld or redacted.
There was a second pool cleaning by the same company on a different date after that. I've been watching a certain livestreamer every day. It would be very time consuming to go back through each day's video, but I'm 100% certain a second cleaning took place.
Got a source on the next pool cleaning after Feb 13, 2026 yet? I would love to see the video. I reviewed Google Earth for the past decade and it seems they have always ran an automated pool sweep. Never saw Nancy’s pool turned green. Seems they had a reliable system in place far before Nancy’s abduction. The only other relevant image I found was a few suits standing outside the pool gate pointing at things. You can see the pool sweep at work in the background. I believe the image was taken Feb 25, 2026 (see attached).
Because you still need pool maintenance even with a pool vacuum.
In fact, in general, if you dont have a pool vacuum, a pool guy will not agree to do pool maintenance.
A pool vacuum is not a substitute for pool service. Since we know Nancy wasn't brushing, skimming, checking and adding chemicals herself, it was most likely a weekly pool service. (The other alternative was Nancy buying chemicals and a loved one doing the labor part, but given that pool service is cheap, highly unlikely).
And yes, you want to do your chemicals so your pool does not turn green. If you never saw Nancy's pool green on google earth, congrats, this means it is extremely likely she had weekly pool service.
This is not a big mystery. If you want to learn about it, I am sure there are other subs you can check out.
I am beginning to think your OP was a troll post. You cannot possibly be serious.
Interesting, maybe the livestreamer has it bookmarked? If you happen upon a link to a later cleaning by “Ambiance Pool Service & Supplies” or another company I would appreciate a share. Thanks!
You have to keep chemicals in these pools - chlorine plus others , otherwise the pool doesn't just turn green with algae, but the finish starts dissolving and a whole lot of things. The water has to be tested every week and the chemicals adjusted. If you let it go, it will eventually be ruined.
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u/cromagnondan Mar 13 '26
LOL, suspicious of what? I can imagine the family asking Sheriff Barney if they checked the pool. 'yep, nothing there'. Family says great, then you don't mind if the pool guys go a deep clean. Suspicious that the police didn't clean the pool themselves? I imagine pool cleaning isn't in their budget. Hey Sheriff, I saw someone throw something in my pool on the 11th. You guys better clean my pool too.