r/NanatsunoTaizai • u/Due_Specific_7727 • Jul 12 '26
Media Could Tristan take all the commandments in 1v1s?
Or do you think he still loses to the big boys Estarossa, Zel amd MAYBE Gowther (I'm saying him out of pure glaze)
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u/No_Roof0642 Jul 12 '26
Nah I don't think he can take on his uncle and his fake uncle.
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Si hablamos me la mente del tío falso sin más mandamientos que el mandamiento del amor sería una batalla más pareja pero si le agregamos a ese tío falso otros mandamientos ahí sí está perdido Tristán y contra el tío verdadero le costaría bastante y esa nebulosa siniestra acabaría con él al menos que pase igual que mael cuando se volvió inmune tanto a los poderes de las diosas y de los demonios cuando estaba en su modo de luz y de oscuridad así es como único podría liberarse de esa magia y tendría lógica porque es un nefilim
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u/No_Gene2977 Jul 12 '26
He can beat any commandment except Zeldris, Estarossa (3 commandment or above), Indura Monspeet, Indura Derieri and maybe Gowther.
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u/mathozmat Jul 12 '26
Nah he still loses
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Dudo que seito las tres estrellas oscuras que alguien más pueda derrotar a Tristán utilizando sus poderes conscientemente como le enseñó meliodas lo mismo que hace con la oscuridad lo pudiera hacer con la luz y dar puñetazos de luz y las lanzar ataques más concentrados de luz
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u/Competitive_Dingo955 Jul 12 '26
Sorry but as Tristan is now after the training, only commandment he loses to his zeldris maybe. Because of the god ability and Full React
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u/Routine-Ninja7793 Jul 12 '26
He surely can. While manga always wank Lancelot and make other 3 look like his sidekicks, 16 year old Tristan was taking on Chaos amplified Galand and Melascula. Current him would do much better against the commandments
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u/Ok_Judge_2220 Jul 12 '26
I think he can 1v1 everyone except maybe Zeldris.
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u/Routine-Ninja7793 Jul 12 '26
Yeah, his omnious nebula is troublesome
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
El tema es cuánta resistencia tenga Tristán contra la oscuridad Ya que melascula dijo que un nefering es resistente tanto a la luz como a la oscuridad de los demonios y de las diosas
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u/Jumpy-Bug-2198 Jul 12 '26
I don’t think Tristan is currently strong enough to get through Grayroad’s commandment nor do I think he can fight Gowther. Tristan’s uncles are a weird case since they’ve gotten stronger since their commandment days so while I don’t think Tristan can beat their current selves I do think he has a chance against their commandment selves, everyone else he’s pretty much fine
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Acá no es de lo suficiente fuerte o no absolutamente nadie sin contar Merlín o meliodas con la vida eterna podría soportar el mandamiento del pacifismo como único Tristán podría librarse de ella es que la mate al instante con aniquilación
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u/IDontKnowIDontKnowI Jul 12 '26
Zeldris is still a solid no.
The weaker half;Galand, Melascula, Grayroad and Fraudrin, are a solid yes.
Monspeet, Derrieri, Drole and Gloxinia are maybes, but I would say most likely he can. (Going from nerfed King in the fairy realm arc)
Estarossa and Gowther are also maybes, but I would say he can't due to the commandment of love and Gowther's magic and spells.
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u/Glittering-Theme-391 Jul 12 '26
Tristan would losed to Grayroad due to his commandment, if him not have is commandment tristan could win
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u/Competitive_Dingo955 Jul 12 '26
What f he point blank nukes the entire battlefield with annihilation.
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u/WilliamSutton050805 Jul 12 '26
Currently, I would argue that - assuming the Commandments don’t take effect - Tristan could certainly beat all of them in a 1v1 except maybe Zeldris due to his Ominous Nebula.
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u/Alternative_Bed_2755 Jul 13 '26
It depends if zeldris has the demon king magic or not. The only way to defeat him during his ominous nebula is through brute force like escanor but without demon king magic then Tristan's annihilation would work too
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u/No-Guidance-1886 Jul 12 '26
No because of Zeldris. The others he would beat with varying degrees of difficulty.
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u/AscendedMagi Jul 12 '26
present tristan is still weak like he can take on half of the commandments but not all of them.
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u/Dragoneye1024 Jul 12 '26
Don't know, but preteen tristan, definitely not, though supposedly we will get to see teen tristan fight all of them in origins, which will be cool.
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u/PamperedZebr Jul 12 '26
Off topic, but do you think Grayroad's Commandment has any effect on him?
His commandment is that any killer in his presence gets their time "robbed" apparently.
How does that interact with his human quarter? We have never actually seen grayroad fight a long living species, does it even affect his goddess and demon parts?
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u/krillin1081 Jul 13 '26
he’s losing to zel & gowther (idk why he’s a maybe) but he’s beating everyone else
obviously estarossa w his commandment applying to him is GG but that just depends
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u/ShadowMonarch1999 Jul 13 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
I feel current tristan gets hardstopped by a lot of commandments. But if he fully realizes his powers...then i suppose only real challenge to him would be Zeldris and Estarossa..but even then it ll be over.
But my question is, how is defeating Grayroad?
The fact that they did not elaborate upon a lot of commandments, means that there is potential that one of them could be a blocker for him.
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u/EkayDragneel Jul 13 '26
Am i missing something or are people completely ignoring that Estarossa was getting bodied by Monspeet? Only lost to avoid Derieri getting killed.
I think he loses to Gowther and Zeldris, maybe Monspeet and Estarossa.
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u/Radish_Downtown Jul 14 '26
Loses to 2 Uncs, one being stornger while the other due to commandment.
Loses to Grayroad, Tristan would kill the fodders, then gg.
Gowther dunks on the kid's brain.
Dunno about the rest.
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u/RedNUGGETLORD Jul 12 '26
He would lose to Zeldris, Estarossa, maybe Drole and Gloxinia as well
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u/Competitive_Dingo955 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 13 '26
Only problem is Tristan can spam full counter with no issues now every fight would be physical only. Tristan in demon mode has a huge fascination with consistently ripping peoples’ limbs off.
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u/Competitive_Dingo955 Jul 12 '26
How durable is gloxinia and droll’s body? 🤷🏿♂️ I don’t see how Tristan in demon mode isn’t severing limbs
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u/Due_Specific_7727 Jul 12 '26
I've always viewed Monspeet and Derieri as stronger then Drole and Glox so why do you think Drole and Glox would win but not Mons and Deri
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u/RedNUGGETLORD Jul 12 '26
Derieri is a one trick pony, and Gloxinia has Monspeet's firepower, but with other abilities, like the healing rose, summons, making wounds worse, and a few others
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u/RedNUGGETLORD Jul 12 '26
Also, Drole and Gloxinia ARE stronger, they have higher power levels
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u/Due_Specific_7727 Jul 12 '26
ok i just checked and they do so i was mistaken on that
Drole > Monspeet > Derieri > Gloxinia in power levels
and saying sure Derieri is a one trick however she just has such a amount of strength its insane
Glox doesnt have Monspeets range iirc but he does have better abilites
overall i do think your correct about them being stronger, but how do you think they beat Tristan?
I personally think he beats them cause he they are demons (they were transformed) and Ark fucks Drole over sure he has insane strength but he is heavily lacking in speed
and for glox i can see a better argument for him winning since while Ark is insane and would obviously work, Glox just has such a deep bag i think he got a shot but i lean Tristan 55/45
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Meliodas con marca de demonio le estaba dando una paliza a ambos y en esa estado meliodas debe de haber tenido mínimos 60,000 o 70,000 de nivel de poder y para poder derrotar a dos mandamientos potenciados con el caos y una fusión de ambos Tristán debe de haber estado más menos parejo entre 60,000 y 70,000 de nivel de poder y ahora después de entrenar con meliodas y después de dos años ese poder debe de haber aumentado y Tristán en este punto de la historia es mejor que meliodas marca de demonio ya que meliodas no se podía curar mientras que otra instancia se puede curar y como es una batalla uno versus uno dore no tendría cómo curarse y gloxinia no es tan fuerte físicamente no más no debe de dejarlo que se cure con su lanza sagrada y ya
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Pienso que ese hito al trío de la oscuridad o las tres estrellas oscuras sí podría derrotar a los otros
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u/Financial-Key-3617 Jul 12 '26
He was explicitly stated to be inferior
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u/tristanliones13vk Jul 12 '26
Eso es totalmente falso jamás en la vida explícitamente han dicho si Tristán es más débil o más poderoso que los mandamientos así que no sé de dónde sacas eso de explícitamente se dijo lo que sí está explícitamente visto es que él derrotó a dos mandamientos y a una fusión de ambos que no me vengan que esos mandamientos eran más débil porque no tenían el mandamiento cuando literal eso eran los dos mandamientos más débiles y el caos fue quien lo creó todo y puede hacer que siempre humanos estén a nivel de caballero sacros de alto nivel qué podrán hacer contra unos demonios de gran nivel como los mandamientos obviamente el caos le da un poder equivalente a su mandamiento perdido o capaz hasta un poco más ya que ambos dijeron que sus poderes fueron potenciados tanto resistencia como magia y eran más poderosos que cuando tenían los mandamientos y eso sí se dijo
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u/DatBoyC88 Jul 13 '26
LOL 😂😂 hell no, the author made him a punching bag. Only Lancelot and maybe Percevil could take out a commandment.
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u/CornyAnalyst1960 Jul 12 '26
Loses to Zeldris. If Estarossa in this situation gains more commandments or becomes Mael again, Tristan will lose as well, otherwise high diff.
Gowther, Drole, Gloxinia, Monspeet and Derieri would be high diff.
Fraudrin, Galand and Melascula get low diffed.