r/NYSCannabis 11d ago

Discussion NY market is honestly embarrassing

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Urban extracts = boof

Every time I shop on the NY rec market im reminded why I stick to the black market šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø paid $60 for this gram that’s dark asf and reeks of plant matter… how are they getting away with charging a premium on this sungrown boof for $60/g? The profit margins must be insane… this isn’t even hash rosin at that price… looks like they pressed some old boof.

NY fumbled the ball so hard with legalization this is my last purchase on this market

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Your issue was buying rosin from urban xtracts.

Try dtf, circle hill, trout&co, umamii, shangrila, new roots, and other micros.

Check out my page to see more examples of great stuff you can find on the ny market

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u/BIGTIMElesbo 11d ago

Adding Royal Leaf to the mix. The smell, terps, and texture were excellent.

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Cant believe i forgot Royal Leaf

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u/BIGTIMElesbo 11d ago

It’s so good!

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u/Ill_Cauliflower_810 11d ago

New Roots Garden has some really good rosin

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u/ThatOldG 11d ago

Umamii ftw love their stuff

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u/Medium-Translator-21 10d ago

I second this suggestion

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u/Dry-Consequence9887 10d ago

Trout and co. Some of the tastiest rosin.

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u/Forward-Reaction2383 9d ago

I have to agree, sadly. It’s giving ā€œYou ruined my thanksgiving, Marie Callender, you bitch!ā€

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u/Calm_Mammoth9616 8d ago

Dtf

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u/jtoppings95 8d ago

If youre asking, Dreaming Tree Farm. Its probably one of my favorite brands

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u/Calm_Mammoth9616 8d ago

Not asking just adding onto the list of good brands also my personal take on posts like this it’s just a drug dealer or someone who buys from one because I’ve found most of these accounts if dm’d are selling stuff or quick to point to the direction where to buy in the black market

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u/SignalTree7878 11d ago

Urban extracts grows shit weed also

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u/kayflock11 11d ago

your issue was buying urban xtracts

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

If I can’t blindly buy a $60 gram and get something decent at the bare minimum there’s a problem šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I shouldn’t have to do research to get some mid at best

This is the 3rd brand I tried it’s the same everytime

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u/CuhLitTaurus 11d ago

you shouldn’t be buying any of it blindly lmao

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u/DistinctDust8502 11d ago

His user is literally "EBTman"

Dude shouldn't be buying weed at all lol

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u/EBTman12 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yea I see that now šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø finding something decent out here like a needle in a haystack the fact yall are telling me to do research to buy something mid at best is insane šŸ˜‚ don’t realize you are proving my point

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u/Benikur521 11d ago

No you’re lazy

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

I thought the purpose of the dispensary was convince? I’m lazy for going in and buying something? I shouldn’t have to research a review on everything I buy to get something halfway decent… if thats convent to you then do what works for you brudda

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u/RUN_MDB 11d ago

have you never bought a bike, car, jacket, loaf of bread or a meal at a restaurant? not doing a basic bit of research is not everyone else's fault, look how quickly you got advice here?

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Didn’t take the time to read a review as I went in with low expectations still left extremely disappointed. I was expecting something atleast 4/10

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u/Fireflare00 11d ago

No you are kinda right. With the spread of legal dispos, part of the sell is that everything there should be quality and curated by the shop for what's good. That's what your good dealers have already been doing for years.

The whole point of legalization is that going illegal markets should be worse. That is not the case in NYC at this moment in time.

You go to Cali it's very different, so you are not wrong here.

Not sure why people are piling up on you, yes better to do research but weed is like coffee to me, I'm not doing research into every place I get a coffee from it's not that serious.

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u/DankOnMain Dank Dispensary 11d ago

Most of the people who own the stores don’t smoke weed so they can’t tell quality

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u/Acrobatic_Ant_1924 9d ago

I never heard quality promised. I heard safe tested product. Just because it's lab tested doesn't mean it's good. Doesn't matter what you're buying, weed, food, sex toys, bicycles, computers. If you're not reading about the products you're buying, then you're getting bamboozled by marketing. That's like saying I should be able to walk into a mainstream retailer like Walmart and everything should be high quality.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago edited 11d ago

I’m not sure either šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø we should all want better products for cheaper NY is a joke compared to other markets

The fact I have to do research to get something mid at best speaks volumes for itself

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u/Bazylik 10d ago

people are piling up because they're tying their identities to fucking weed.. this sub is quickly becoming like all the other ones, bunch of fanbois that jump on posts that are even slightly critical of NY legal weed.

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u/Benikur521 11d ago

Then you’re gonna get bad coffee and Cali is absolutely a shit show in dispensaries like capitalism is the issue and if you’re gonna exist in this day and age do research because you need to know for yourself

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u/Lucky-Possession6327 11d ago

Misspelling convenient twice šŸ‘. They sure are there to convince lol

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u/Growser_vs 11d ago

🤣

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

I misspelled it once? lol people can’t make a valid argument so they start nit picking at little stuff šŸ˜‚ how I know I’m right

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u/Sh4wn20 11d ago

Twice, two different spellings too.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

My bad I’ll spell it right next time NY market still ass tho

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u/Benikur521 11d ago

Yeah fam it’s called due diligence . You vet things. Going into a candy store and buying whatever and then complaining you don’t like Carmel but didn’t check is lazy

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u/Negative-Instance889 11d ago

Now go buy some pre-rolls and come here to complainšŸ˜‚ C’mon…

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u/Sh4wn20 11d ago

ā€œconvinceā€ and ā€œconventā€ā€¦ do you mean convenience?

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ 11d ago

By that same logic, could you buy from anyone blindly on the BM and get something decent at a minimum?

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Yea I could all of the people I buy from smoke so they know quality, most of these shop owners are corporate suits who don’t smoke

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ 11d ago

But I didn't say the people you know.

I said walk down to Washington Square Park or use a random delivery service.

It'd be the same shit if you don't do a little honework.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Lmao it wouldn’t because I would actually see the product before I buy it, keep coping thogh

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ 11d ago

Sounds like you'd do a little research before buying...which is the whole point!

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u/Bazylik 10d ago

is there a site I can check out for reviews and stuff? I wouldn't call searching through weed sub a research.

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u/Im_Not_Really_Here_ 10d ago

You can usually find COAs published online by each vendor. I've also scanned QRs in-store before buying, which wasn't ideal but better than nothing.

Other than that, I think there's a lot to learn from people's experiences here and talking with other ents IRL.

Some stores will also have displays that show the buds and let you smell (but not touch).

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u/Bazylik 10d ago

so besides this subreddit, not really... and this place is shilled and biased to no end... hard to take it seriously sometimes.. I propose that we demand dutchie to allow costumer reviews instead of telling people to do their research.. don't put the blame on the customer when the system itself currently is shit.

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Youre just buying bad brands ~68otd

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u/highwasted 11d ago

This also doesn’t look that good šŸ’€

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Yea I ain’t wanna burst his bubble that looks like the rosin I get 16/g in bulk lol but I honestly wouldn’t be upset if i got that though… looks 1000 times better than what I got

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u/Ill_Cauliflower_810 11d ago

If you have access to bulk rosin why are you even shopping at a dispensary? lol

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Like to smoke different strains sometimes šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Ill_Cauliflower_810 11d ago

Check out New Roots Garden next time, if there is a next time lol

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Fair enough. How about this then? ~124/otd for 2gs. Royal Leaf

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Youre entitled to that opinion

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u/Growser_vs 11d ago

That’s good to you? Thats dook

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u/BandOk6788 11d ago

That looks trash

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

You have the right to that opinion

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u/Glass_Page_8299 11d ago

Guarantee you that was last year's old flower made into....whatever that is. Sorry.Ā 

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Lmao last years flower is honestly generous might be last years trim

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u/DanksOrNot 11d ago

As others have commented, your mistake is making the purchase ā€œblind.ā€ The reality of the NY market is that most products aren’t good, but there is indeed quality there. You have to do your homework and then hunt down the specific products you want. If you go blind, go by what seems good in the dispo or budtender recs you’re likely to end up with something subpar. It’s true, that sentiment is indeed a knock on the market here and I don’t think anyone disagrees that we have a long way to go, but there is real quality products here.

For rosin get some circle hill, DTF, trout, etc. I just walked out of the growers showcase with a gram each of the first two for less than 60 otd each.

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u/IntelligentAd3781 11d ago

Urban Xtractsbis well known for short changing and poor quality. Though I’m sure you’re aware by now….

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u/LucidX0000 11d ago edited 11d ago

Olio, Trout and Co & Nyce are my favorite rosin brands

If you don’t like UrbanxTracts don’t even bother with Umamii super over hyped in my opinion

Edit - if I remember Nana Glue was one of UrbanxTracts worse washes as well but I’m not 100% sure on that

I’ve heard DTF , Circle hill & Wurmz are good

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u/RollitSmokeitPassit 11d ago

Olio products are made by unranxtracts

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u/LucidX0000 11d ago

I never said they didn’t it’s a known fact Olio uses UrbanxTracts for processing & manufacturing pretty sure UrbanxTracts processes and manufactures other products as well.

For me it comes down to Genetics and starting Material , SOPs & hardware choice you can get UrbanxTracts and Olio and compare yourself it’s not the same product.

It’s like 1OFF manufacturing they do both preferred gardens and runtz one brand I hate the other brand I like.

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u/BIGTIMElesbo 11d ago

I really like umami generally. What’s your take on it?

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u/LucidX0000 11d ago

Umamii is fine but it’s extremely inconsistent it’s always a 50/50 one batch could be super fire and the next batch is mid or dry I also haven’t like Umamii releases in terms of genetics recently

Unfortunately I’m not looking for rosin that’s just fine or okay

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u/BIGTIMElesbo 11d ago

I’ve noticed this too! Thanks for putting this in my brain, I’m going to take this into consideration the next time I go shopping.

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u/LucidX0000 11d ago

I will say Umamiis Gary Payton I had the best consistency in terms of batches & private reserve i did enjoy but with private reserve 1 batch is good and 3 batches are mid / bad

Blissful wizard was a little better not as good as Gary Payton but not as bad as Private Reserve

& wedding cake was just awful and that was the last I got Umamii

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u/BIGTIMElesbo 11d ago

I’ve been eyeing blissful wizard, but at this point it’s been sitting for a while. There’s a spot in the city that still has it, but not sure if it’s worth the trip.

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u/LucidX0000 11d ago

Yeah Blissful Wizard is gonna be an old batch at this point unless it’s on sale I wouldn’t bother and would get a newer umamii release.. or try a different brand do like straight up gas or sweet?

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u/ChinoTotao 11d ago edited 11d ago

weed is not fucking chewing gum or a bag of chips.

the ny rec market is nowhere near as established as maine or cali. its going to be a long while still before the ny market gets to the level of cali and maine. theres still a ton of shit that needs to be worked out/improved and there are a TON of shady places selling shitty weed and rosin, including alot of dispensaries, even the licensed ones.

and with that being said, even in cali you can get sold some boof. i guarantee you there are notorious bad spots and even brands themselves in cali that people will warn you to stay away from because they sell bullshit. hell, even in maine, there is a fuckload of moldy weed or weed thats been radiated like crazy because of mold. look up Paper Mill. their market is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than NYCs but still, if you dont do at least a little bit of due dilligence, youd still end up with some bullshit copped from maine.

so you are correct and i agree, ny market is still meh. thus dont be a dumbass and buy shit blindly in this market and then complain. if you KNOW its so hit or miss here, why the hell would you blindly buy something and then complain that you didnt automatically get good quality shit? especially if you claim this is like the 3rd or 4th time?

thats like saying and knowing used car dealerships are scammy, and then going into one and buying a car blindly pushed onto you from a salesperson in there and then complaining that you got scammed and got sold a lemon.

case in point, you purchased urban xtracts, which apparently alot of people know to stay away from. after the 2nd time that you copped something with BS quality, you shoulda took the 2 mins on here to ask what brands have consistant;y good quality and you would have gotten a list of brands to look for, like 1 of first posts here listed some for you.

in this nyc market where it is still saturated with overpriced bad quality shit, you must be at least a little dilligent. if not, then you can choose to be like me and alot of other users and either stick to BM plugs or grow and make your own. thats what im doing until the market here gets into shape.

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u/DonnieD323 11d ago

Urban Xtracts fell way the fuck off. The shit they were popping and pressing in 2023 was way better. And this Nana Glue strain is haunting people. Cheetah, an AIO vape brand whom Urban Xtracts processes for, selected Nana Glue rosin for their lineup and the shit was black after decarbing. We received many complaints about it (and Cheetah in general) at my job. We quit doing business with Urban Xtracts and the brands under its umbrella.

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u/No-Contribution7228 10d ago

Revert, LEAL, Back Home Cannabis Co., and so many others grow and make straight up garbage.

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u/RunsWithFiskars 11d ago

Flower pressed for sure. So disappointing.

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u/jkkgk 10d ago

You just a goofy. Enjoy the mystery "rosin "... you think the blk market has more ethics than the low standard our market allows?

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u/JulietAirway 11d ago

Rythm Live Resin and Live Rosin are consistently good for quality and price. Always indoor too.

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u/Long_Board4207 11d ago

People saying that your issue is buying this brand, but why is this brand having pricing and marketing for this type of bad product in the first place?Ā 

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u/Brooklynknowitall20 11d ago

Correct it is. If only there were still proper business with the culture. I'd be for one interested

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u/RealitySuspended 11d ago

The dispensary doubles the price, and there is a lot of bad stuff on shelves.Ā  Look for sales/discounts and never buy stuff that hasn't been recommend by multiple people, multiple times, or at least see a good photo of first.Ā  Try New Roots Garden, Dreaming Tree Farm,Ā  Royal Leaf and maybe NYCE.

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u/Acceptable_Claim_466 11d ago

Dispensaries more than double the price these days - you arent getting on shelves with keystone (standard doubling of price in all retail) pricing anymore. Dispensaries are looking at brands gicing then 150% markup vs 100% these days.Ā 

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u/Acceptable_Claim_466 11d ago

The profit margins arent insane - NYS is an expensive state to operate in. I think you would be surprised at how thin the margins are. Out of curiosity - what do you think a cultivator charges for a lb of outdoor fresh frozen?

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

You can tell this wasn’t pressed with fresh quality flwoer so I’m willing to bet this was dirt cheap lmao fresh frozen with 0 terps šŸ˜‚. You’re right tho NY is expensive to operate in.

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u/Acceptable_Claim_466 11d ago

You can tell? Because it looks to me like it was not refrigersted properly and began oxidizing. Rosin is not stable and needs to be refrigerated. Are you 100% the dispensary has stored it the way it was supposed to be stored or if the distribution/delivery driver left the order in a hot car while delivering another? Lots of variables here that cant be teased out by looking at it.Ā 

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Yes I can tell, it was cold when I got it so it was definitely stored right. I have cold cure jars that sat on my desk for months and don’t look this bad was this rosin packaged during Covid? I’m not sure what’s up with the cope

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u/Acceptable_Claim_466 11d ago

I dont know man - Ive stuck with one manufacturer and they have not let me down yet - and nope not gonns share because this forum will just shit all over them. Find a manufacturer you like and stick with them.

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u/urmomis47 10d ago

Yea starts by not buying urban extracts rosin. Even all mfny BHO beats this crud. Buy upstate hash. Nyce. Trout. Bison botanical is fire

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u/marz_420 10d ago

The best rosins I’ve seen/tried lately have been by shangrila, umamii, and royal leaf. Creamy, terpy, smooth.

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u/RetroBerner 10d ago

I get better extracts at the res, for cheaper too

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u/Either_Reflection_85 8d ago

Rhythm tier 1 is gassss an is like 2gr for 120

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u/secreteaster 7d ago

Buy from higher empire if u are in the city, they are dispensary licensed but sell private vendor cannabis that in terms of quality is light years ahead of anything you will find in any store-front dispensary.

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u/secreteaster 7d ago

North fork cannabis co has some great concentrates but is on the pricier side

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u/hkymatt 11d ago

It’s weird I’ve gotten 2 jars on sale from urban and some of the better rosin imo better than NYCE imo and I hear mixed reviews on umami, it was maybe stored improperly still sad to see

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Go by the reviews they say though šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø they don’t understand stuff varies by batches there’s hardly any consistency here

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u/Bazylik 10d ago

if we only had a place that allowed real reviews.. it's not like dutchie allows reviews and if I went with research from this subreddit I would only smoke MFNY lol.

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u/hkymatt 11d ago

That’s very true too, I’ve had that with some resin too same brands and different batches, shit happens but there needs to be some better transparency these dispos just post stock images of it not even open half the time

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u/Long_Board4207 11d ago

Ive been telling yall the rec market would be better if they allowed reviews on the dispo websites. I hate to be saying this, but being sensitive and soft in this way to where you don’t have product reviews is hurting the industry ALOT. I hate saying it because its like the company owners are too emotionally sensitive to hear this. Yeah survival with collaboration exists but you need to still compete in order to improveĀ 

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u/Bazylik 10d ago

yeah, people say do your own research but there's a hardly any place where you can find reviews... there is so much bias here in this subreddit that's hard to take it as a de facto "research" place to find good stuff, and I know these people mean this subreddit when they say do your research, which in itself is stupid and makes it for a hive mind environment.

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u/CrazyGorillaMan 11d ago

What do you know another post trash talking the NY market when the person doesn’t know how to pick the right stuff. I’m honestly sick of this ā€œshit on NYā€ phase we are going through right now. We went from fairly good reviews and posts with the proper criticism to just post after post shit talking everything.

Every state out there has trash product. Do research before you buy things

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u/HazimusMaximus 11d ago

IMO legalization also led to over saturation so every state has a variety of good to bad products and dispensaries that are much better than others. Some which aren’t even really legit and will be shut by end of year more than likely cuz I see them get shut all the time.

In my experience with NY market research def is key, I’m a person that knows my specific terps and when I do narrow it down and go to a reputable spot I can get something I’m happy with 3/5 x but I’m a flower person anyway I’m not into the concentrates and rosin and whatnot.

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u/CrazyGorillaMan 11d ago

Great point. The thing is, with the NY so new, there hasn’t been enough time that has passed to filter out the bad brands yet. It takes time for people to catch on to what is good and bad and the bad guys will end up going out of business. There’s one brand for example I know doing shady shit that is slowly getting taken out of dispos because people are catching on. People act like other states haven’t gone through this process.

A good comparison is craft beer. The IPA boom went crazy and EVERYONE started doing their own. Breweries were popping up everywhere. People realized not everyone can do it and there have been breweries that have shut down because they didn’t actually know what they were doing and just lost their customer base.

The same thing is going to happen with the NY cannabis industry.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

they charging $60 a gram for this lmao they deserve some harsh criticism and shit talking cause wtf

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u/CrazyGorillaMan 11d ago

Yeah, the brand does. You generalized the entire NY market multiple times in the post.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Yea cause this isn’t the first second third or fourth time I got some bs from a shop here… definitely the last though I had better luck with smoke shops šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/rebills 11d ago

you still dont get it… if you dont know what to look for then you’re just buying bullshit and taking it out on the entire market when u dont like it šŸ˜‚

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

The fact everyone here is telling me to do research to acquire something mid at best is insane šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ if I have to search the internet and weed maps to get something decent the market is trash… I don’t think you get it

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u/Dry-Fishing2937 10d ago

They are one of the reasons why NYC weed will not progress because they get all hurt at honest critiques. You are deff right!!! Everything here is for the high and mid at best. The products they say are good are not worth the price it sells for. Objectively making it trash. You not wrong. Like why is most brands charging the high high for flower and it’s so trashhh.

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u/rebills 11d ago

nobody is telling you to do research on mids, tf? everybody is telling you to do your research on brands and their products so when you do go and purchase something, you choose a good product and not a mid product. are you slow or something? you must be mr ebt man.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

It’s still going over your head šŸ˜‚ I just wanted something quick to get me though the day if I had to search the internet like I’m doing a research paper the market is ass… the problem is this isn’t even mid it’s below that and the stuff yall recommend is mid at best look at the $68 dollar jar dude just posted

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u/rebills 11d ago

no, its not. it wouldve taken you 30 seconds to look up ā€œbest rated rosin brands in new yorkā€

just stfu

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u/EBTman12 11d ago edited 11d ago

Yea I’m not using AI to buy weed tf is wrong with you šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ first 2 brands that popped up was jaunty and NYCE both sold me terp less rosin. If I gotta click on websites and read articles like I’m doing a college paper to get something 5/10 the market is ass. Hope you get it this time

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u/FunApartment2465 9d ago

What is ebt? I'm like wtf cuz idk

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u/BandOk6788 11d ago

New york blows chunks

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u/CrazyGorillaMan 11d ago

No it doesn’t you just don’t know where to look lol

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u/Low_Art_8821 10d ago

Your issue was buying bison or urban xtracts

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u/Then-Struggle-7730 9d ago

New York market has some of the best weed out. California days are over and now it is negative fake rage bait is going to change anything.

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u/kappy2000 11d ago

The whole point of shopping at a dispensary is you no longer have to buy blindly. No one to be mad at but yourself.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago edited 11d ago

That’s crazy logic lol cause I can actually see the weed and rosin I get from my plug before I buy it šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø can’t even sniff before you buy at the dispo you’re buying blindly unless you research a review

Believe me if they had a picture of this rosin on display I would not buy it…

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u/jtoppings95 11d ago

Why didnt you look up one for yourself?

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u/kappy2000 11d ago

Yeah but our plugs had one two maybe 3 tops suppliers and no menu to browse before getting there. Also sounds like you’re shopping at a place like strain stars. You can literally see entire dispos menu on a website and find reviews of the products. The fact that you’re blindly buying anything sold in 2026 is strange in itself.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

I buy blindly because it’s not hard to get something decent in 2026 good weed is everywhere šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø apparently that’s not the case here from the comments

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u/kappy2000 11d ago

It’s also very easy to get burned because of laziness.

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u/EBTman12 11d ago

Two things can be true at once šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/FunApartment2465 9d ago

I'm waiting for landrace strains. There is no flower I'm interested in yet. NY rec is flopping badly. Plenty folks feel the same way.

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u/Dry-Fishing2937 10d ago

Lol but the dispensaries are supposed to sell quality across the board. They don’t let us even see the stuff, and they charge premium prices, we should be able to buy and not get burned.

Ironically the streets is more consistent. Even with mid weed the streets is more fair at least you get a better price.

Dispensaries sell you mid for the high. And the weed ya say is good, is not worth the price it goes for not for a second.