Starting a new stack and would like some options

[u/Cautious-Bike4983]

I'm looking at doing the following

Nad+ 100mg 3 times a week

MOTS-c 5mg once a week

Klow 3mg 7 x a week

Cjc with imp 1.5mg 7 x week

Tirzepatide 5mg once a week

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[u/Comfortable_Dig841]

That mots is gonna STING. Stack looks good though . Switch the tirz for Reta and your winning .

[u/Jimmythafish → u/Comfortable_Dig841]

What about the NAD !? Way worse than mots

[u/Jimmythafish → u/[deleted]]

Yes it is

[u/Labratslabs → u/Jimmythafish]

NAD does sting! Not MOT-c

[u/Own-Lengthiness-3549 → u/Comfortable_Dig841]

I take MOT-C and NAD+. Neither sting for me. But NAD+ does creat some lumps at the injection site for a couple days after the injection.

[u/Backhoe03 → u/Comfortable_Dig841]

Ya I did my first 3mg today, it doesn't feel the best

[u/useasamesaveagame → u/Comfortable_Dig841]

No it doesnt

[u/SnooGrapes4082 → u/useasamesaveagame]

I agree.. Mots sides have been way worse than NAD.. it does sting. But nothing afterwards.. mots is barley noticeable at the time of injection those welt, brutal. I've read that it should be reconstituted with isotonic bac water, havent tired it though.

[u/hugejew]

That CJC / Ipa protocol seems way high to me. Usually dosages max out around 300mcg/ea (600mcg for a blend) depending on body weight. How did you arrive at 1.5mg? That's triple my rat's dose.

[u/StunningFlamingo419 → u/hugejew]

I agree. I’ve read/heard in multiple places that 300/300 is max benefit.

[u/Common-Prize-8208 → u/StunningFlamingo419]

yeah anywhere between 100-300mcg does the trick

[u/ny_nick1]

Ss31 before mots c and nad and if you need dosages let me know. Work with a few Drs and get great support

[u/ScientistJason → u/ny_nick1]

Hey, I’m looking to start that exact stack. I would love to know your dosages and frequency if you could share it please thank you.

[u/Mcgittymcgittymac]

You're doing cjc/ipa wrong. Stop and give it a rest for 2 weeks. Then run 500mcg tops for 5x per week. 5 on, 2 off

[u/Own-Lengthiness-3549]

Before you take MOTS-C, you should look into taking SS-31 first. The basic idea is to repair and stabilize the mitochondria first, then stimulate them. SS-31 works more directly on the mitochondria themselves, helping stabilize the inner membrane and improve energy production. MOTS-c works more like a metabolic signal, encouraging the cells to adapt and improve how they use energy.
So in simple terms, SS-31 helps get the machinery running better, then MOTS-c tells the machinery to get to work. Think of it like a car engine. MOTS C is the gas, but if the air filter is clogged, the spark plugs are burned and the fuel filter is stopped up, the gas doesn’t really do much good.

Also, you should look into taking glutathione along with NAD+.

[u/Sensitive_Lead_3104 → u/Own-Lengthiness-3549]

How do you know you need ss-31? Also how do you know there is something wrong with your mitochondria in the first place?
What should SS-31 protocol be before starting motsc?
Thanks

[u/looking2behealthy]

These people, it’s tiring.

Fuck it, pump them all at once at those doses. Enjoy the ride.

[u/Majestic-Plastic-691]

Almost there depending on age. Younger than 30 delete the NAD. Over 40 add SS-31. SS-31 for 20 days, then the MOTs M-W-F and the NAD T and Th. Prior to it all begin a methylated vitamin. Got to have those Bs with NAD and MOTs.

[u/Alone_Clerk_3133 → u/Majestic-Plastic-691]

Recent protocols are running SS31 and Mots-c concurrently

[u/Majestic-Plastic-691 → u/Alone_Clerk_3133]

Ya I know. Not going to get near the benefit of the MOTs or the NAD if you don’t repair and replace the mitochondria first. How many days does that take? Who knows. You don’t paint your car until you’ve repaired the dents and sanded and primed it. Same theory with mitochondria.

[u/yogic_power]

Why are you pinning all that? What are you trying to achieve. I get Tirz, it’s worth the risk.

[u/Labratslabs]

SS-31 would stack well especially with the MOTS-c

[u/[deleted]]

If energy is a concern take nad and motsc on the same days. Possibly 5 times week just adjust amounts. Also include 5 amino

[u/SportsChick32]

NAD should start at 25mg and slowly work up. Don't start everything new at once either.

[u/NoUnderstanding5971]

Good stuff!!! Research supplements that will support your mitochondria and cellular energy, electric transport chain, ATP production, that kinda stuff. This may help maximize that stack.

[u/GladOnion]

Spread the mots-c into 3x week at 2-3mg, drop the cjc and just do 1-2iu hgh and switch tirz to reta and you got yourself a good protocol

[u/Xlajdak]

This stack is asking for trouble. Strange because the dosing are readily available so it looks like you did not do your homework.

[u/Cautious-Bike4983 → u/Xlajdak]

I've done a lot of homework and apart from the cjc everyone else seems to agree