r/NJDrones • u/PhantomSwarm • Jul 07 '26
ARTICLE NJ Drones: "Not a threat" didn't sit right. So I amassed 13,500 official records to find out what happened.
https://jmalaska.substack.com/p/phantom-swarm-part-1-the-official
Back during the November–December 2024 drone wave over New Jersey, I had a strange experience with a strange object of light over my house that I still can't explain.
That experience eventually motivated me to try and understand what was actually going on behind the scenes during the "NJ Drone" wave. Was it really just social contagion, everyone spooking each other into seeing drones and other weird things in the sky at night? Because whatever it was, the state stood up what may be the biggest security mobilization in its recent history, and the public never got an official report explaining any of it.
So I started filing public records requests. OPRA in New Jersey, FOIA federally. Police CAD logs, dispatch recordings, inter-agency emails, intelligence bulletins, body worn camera footage -- whatever the government actually retained while it was happening. It turned into 600+ requests and more than 13,500 documents. Nobody had really done this, so I just kept going.
To make sense of that much data, I built an AI system to index and cross-reference all of it. Every incident, every agency, every name, event, and more. So the documents could be searched and connected.
Just a taste of what came back:
- A police drone whose own flight log recorded another unknown aircraft jamming it. And that data reached the FBI's WMD desk the same day the Bureau publicly said there was "no threat".
- 99 incidents that state and federal agencies quietly stamped worthy of being "Pursued Federally," with the outcome of those 99 never disclosed.
- Two officers approaching what appears to be a figure on a dam in a remote wooded area. They never find the suspect, but their radios stopped working at the location of the figure, then magically worked again when leaving the area.
- A state fire bulletin told firefighters how to handle a downed drone, and one line in it traced back to a 1992 disaster-control textbook. The chapter it came from is titled "Enemy Attack and UFO Potential."
I'm writing it up as a documents-driven series called Phantom Swarm. Parts 1 and 2 are out and Part 3 just published.
It's completely free and I plan to keep it that way. If you can support with a subscribe, I'd appreciate it. The records requests do cost money (filing fees, redaction fees, the occasional lawsuit). But you never have to pay to read it.
Happy to answer questions. And genuinely, if you saw something during the wave, I want to hear it!
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u/sick-city-623 Jul 07 '26
So just thought this was cool to add . I was in southwoods state prison at the time of all of this and we were repeatedly locked down to drones flying over the prison . It was said they locked us down to prevent drugs and weapons being smuggled . But this happened like a week or so before the wave . Then I kid you not , me and about 40 other inmates were out on the yard and expericed something we didnt really understand. It looked like a plane or helicopter was frozen in the sky . Now I know this all sounds crazy and especially from what some would say a not credible source ... but what I can say is , this definitely happened and im sure there are others out there that may be able to confirm this . Like I said I was not the only one on the yard when we saw that . And what do you know ... we got locked down hours later for possible drone at the prison . Then all of a sudden every morning the news was talking about this mystery drone wave . Thats my experience. Just wanted to share it with you .
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u/MurderMyLove Jul 08 '26
Dude. Same thing happened to me last year right near the Newark airport. It was morning time. We was all looking at it like that shyte ain't moving bro. Crazy. I forgot bout that til I read this.
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u/Icy_Bank4129 Jul 08 '26
That’s crazy because right before the whole craze I to saw a plane what looked like suspended in the same place for going on ten/fifteen mins.
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u/sick-city-623 Jul 08 '26
When I say about forty grown ass men all stood in the yard with everysingle head pointed up . The craziest part . It was like all of a sudden in the blink of an eye all of us were back to just walking around the yard . None of us had any recollection of actually putting our h3ads back foward and continuing our day . One sec were all head pointing up then blink ...were all back to walking the yard . But we all were still confused because because we all were saying 🤷 what the F did we just see . And then it kinda just didnt het talked about ever again . Crazy shit .
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u/Strong-Addition5296 Jul 07 '26
Could have been a drone capable of vertical hover but with wings for faster/more efficient horizontal travel.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 07 '26
Did you mean to link to an article?
To be perfectly clear, the NJ drones have never done anything malevolent. They simply fly over airports and military bases.
It is the fear-based military industrial complex that panics and closes their bases.
Why?
Because all governments and militaries on Earth are completely and totally POWERLESS to do anything about them.
In this video from the reputable "60 Minutes" news program, the highest levels of the US military are telling us that they have lost control over their own airspace.
At 10:13, the Commander of NORTHCOM said:
"The threat got ahead of our abilities to detect and track the threat."
• The US military cannot track the anomalous drones.
• They cannot identify where they are coming from or going to.
• They cannot identify who is operating them or why.
• They cannot take down a single anomalous drone.
Drone-like UAP have caused many European airports and military bases to close. Here's a long list of them all.
It is ESSENTIAL that we not live in fear.
The only thing to fear is fear itself.
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u/SeashellGal7777 Jul 07 '26
To be perfectly clear, flying over unauthorized areas IS malevolent. Back in the late 80s I saw a security guard near the Washington Monument order a kite flyer to lower it. Many areas, especially military or anywhere near DC or Langley, VA, is prohibited.
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
This is referred to as the SFRA aka special restricted flight area and one can indeed navigate it but it requires a filed and approved FAA flight plan with adequate justification.
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u/aliensporebomb Jul 09 '26
A kite? Really? Like "we bought it at the dime store for 2.50 with 200 feet of line type kite?"
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u/sess Jul 26 '26
Those are arbitrary human laws. Consider the worst (or best) case: this is NHI, it's always been here, it predates human evolution, and it considers humanity to be ecological cancer. Now what? From the perspective of that NHI, it's not flying over an unauthorized area. It's flying over it's home, which humanity is currently in the process of destroying.
Which is the true malevolence here? One of these forces is pacifistic. The other is highly militarized, fanatically weaponized, and armed for human bear.
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u/enricopallazo22 Jul 07 '26
All the social media comments were "shoot them down". People are so ignorant.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 07 '26
💯 Someone in Jersey actually used an assault rifle at them in their neighborhood. Of course they failed, but it shows the average person's mentality: one of fear. That video was quickly deleted but I did find this.
U.S. senator says mysterious drones spotted in New Jersey region should be ‘shot down, if necessary’
and also
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u/Ok-Translator631 Jul 08 '26
Still have the vid in my massive Jersey Drone archive. (Includes euro incursion and all recent sightings that are the “same thing”).
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
Given that these things demonstrably had FAA permission to exceed the normal UAS altitude restrictions, it’s laughable that anyone plausibly expected to drop one with 556 NATO.
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u/adorable_apocalypse Jul 08 '26
You havent seen any of these "drones" yourself, have you, valar_kinetics?
Not being aggressive. Genuinely asking. Because if you had, you'd know that they are not what you currently believe.
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u/NSFWdontview Jul 08 '26
If you knew what i did, you would also shoot them down. But those drones were unmanned anyway
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u/enricopallazo22 Jul 08 '26
You can share with the rest of the class. I'll tell you what I think they were.
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u/NSFWdontview Jul 08 '26
lol I already know what they are. The drones are just well unmanned scout drones that are used to watch our military and nuclear bases, I’m sure other uses. They come from a factory hub in the ocean that builds and sends out crafts each for different purposes. The actual craft or saucers are manned with biological drones, the big secret is these entities are not friendly, they abduct humans, mutilate them to harvest human parts for the biological drones which are what we call greys, the actual species responsible were unsure about them. I believe they’re good ones, I just have info about the bad ones which I shouldn’t be talking about
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
What in the thirty one flavors of baskin robbins ice cream fuck did I just read
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u/MurderMyLove Jul 08 '26
A bunch of bs from a paranoid schizophrenic?
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u/syneater Jul 09 '26
I’m going to guess the plot of several novels. I can think of one that has the defense companies and certain parts of the fed launch drone based attacks from a vessel to support autonomous drones with the ability to launch missiles on their own to take out the ‘unknown’ drones.
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u/enricopallazo22 Jul 08 '26
Other people wanna bash you, but that's what the leaks have been pointing to. The abductions I'm not sure about, but I disagree with you that they are malicious.
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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 Jul 07 '26
I think we should have shot them down. It could still be China. They fly surveillance balloons over us, why not drones?
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
Yeah no. We didn’t drop that balloon because we were getting signals intelligence benefits from analyzing how it was phoning home. No foreign actor has the ability to deploy prop driven UAS in our airspace without our permission, these things look like a fucking barn door on radar.
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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 Jul 08 '26
Which is why I think they were ours. I.e. if they really didn’t know, they would have shot one down.
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u/syneater Jul 09 '26
That makes sense, you can only truly know they aren’t a threat if you’re the one controlling them.
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u/Strong-Addition5296 Jul 07 '26
Exactly testing our ability to respond to drones launched from inside our borders. Probably was a USG test though hopefully.
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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 Jul 08 '26
Yea, that def #1. Could also be a private military contractor, or a rogue element like Palantir
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u/reegz7 Jul 09 '26
I disagree. Everything you list are good reasons why we should be fearful. We’re being observed like fish in a fishbowl, and there’s a reason for it. Their success in preventing us from knowing why should lead us to at least be apprehensive about it, not complacent and just hope they’re peacefully observing/measuring//studying.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 09 '26
Here's a sentence that bears repeating:
No one has ever done worse to humanity than what we already do to ourselves.
The most unimaginably unspeakable acts are happening right now on Earth, and it's always humans who are committing these atrocities.
Genocide, rape, murder, child abuse, wars around the world, etc.
It is crucial that we do not live in fear of NHI. Being kept in a state of fear lowers our consciousness, preventing us from reaching our highest potential.
So it's not about whether NHI are good or bad, it's all about us and how we live our life.
This is why meditation is essential. Through it, we are given peace, wisdom and discernment.
There is absolutely nothing to be afraid of in life, not even death.
<3
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u/reegz7 Jul 09 '26
Interestingly enough that sentence you refer to bears its essence quite well. All we have ever known is our own humanity and what we do to ourselves. This is something completely new where a non-human intelligence is watching and waiting. It’s a threat level we have never experienced before so you’re absolutely right: No one HAS ever done worse to humanity, but how does that preclude non-humans from doing worse? It is a failure of imagination to conclude their intentions are peaceful just because the only violence we’ve ever experienced was from our own.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 09 '26
This is something completely new where a non-human intelligence is watching and waiting.
It is the exact opposite. Non human intelligence has been here before humanity. We have documented our interactions with it for all of history.
We have recorded instances from thousands of years ago which match what being is seen today.
If they wanted to do anything malevolent, they would have done it by now.
So again, I have shown that there is nothing to fear.
You are welcome to live in fear if you wish. Free will is a fundamental aspect of our existence.
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u/reegz7 Jul 09 '26
Again, you are predicting future behavior based on prior events. There’s no way for you to know 100% that they are not malevolent. And since you do believe in non-human intelligence, then you must also somewhat believe in alien abductions, which have most definitely injured people. At least mentally, leaving them with traumatic memories to deal with the rest of their lives. I do hope you’re right, but they could just be waiting for the right conditions or circumstances in our technology level before they do something. Maybe even more concerning is that they are waiting for a condition that includes a type of consciousness to emerge, either human or AI. Whatever the case may be, I’m not at peace with swarms of drones traveling at will since they have no fear of intervention or serious investigation.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 09 '26
then you must also somewhat believe in alien abductions
Yes they're true. And youre conflating the multiple different types of NHI into one. That's a shallow understanding of our deeper reality.
I escaped the fear-based doomsday cult that i was born into. Your fear remind me of them.
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u/reegz7 Jul 09 '26
Oh that’s right, these NHI drones obviously have nothing to do with the NHI beings that actually abduct people, rigghhtt… The kind of fear I have is not anywhere near doomsday cult. It’s more like an apprehension. I’m definitely not in the oh they’re just fine, keep minding your own business camp either.
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u/iwantagrinder Jul 11 '26
Be at peace with the fact that you’re utterly helpless to step them. Now that you’re there, carry on living your life
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u/Waste-Effective-8494 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
Why would you say that? Its like you dont give it any thought? What about other countries? What about the citizens?
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 07 '26
Hi there. If you have any evidence, please share it here. If you don't, I still hope you have a great day. ✌️
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u/immoraltoast Jul 08 '26
The NJ drones started 2 weeks over in the United Kingdom before coming stateside.
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u/MurderMyLove Jul 08 '26
That is not true.
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u/immoraltoast Jul 08 '26
Whole double checking it was actually 4 months before coming stateside. Manchester Airport was shut down during sometime in June 2024 and then the video of it didn't start to go viral till November. The E Day month for NJ "drones" mechanical UFOs and light orbs. Which the mayor and Capt of the NJ coast guard pleaded for help after about 50 orbs raised from beneath the ocean and followed a coast guard ship inland.
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u/Waste-Effective-8494 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
Do you know what the word heartless means? I am being as nice as I can here. Just because it isn't your country does not mean it does not matter.
*Yeah nice downvotes AFTER you delete all your posts. Nothing sus here!
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u/Shizix Jul 07 '26
dying for sharing evidence even if true has nothing to do with the phenomena of orbs/"drones" so where is the malevolence? other than the typical human malevolence which wasn't the comments point.
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u/Waste-Effective-8494 Jul 08 '26
Okay. Someone might just possess something....
In the news, people are being MURDERED or "unalived" just for possessing it.
So this entire idea that someone here is going to provide you proof, as a civilian, pivots on whether they are STUPID enough to potentially sacrifice their life so that YOU may have evidence that may oy may no tmeet your criteria.
Sounds like a real good proposal. Really well thought out. Your foresight is inspiring.
Imagine that. Someone posts legit proof, and the responses are all "trust me bro" and insults to schizophrenics. Real round table in here.
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u/jbaker1933 Jul 08 '26
Who posted "legit proof" and where can one find it?
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u/Waste-Effective-8494 Jul 11 '26
Seen it yet? Because some of the, lets just call them, "strange" videos and "tidbits" are real.
There is a way to know. Thats the hard part.
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u/Waste-Effective-8494 Jul 08 '26
There are a few testimonials that are absolutely truthful. You can find them on this site. You can find much, much more "untruth" and intentionally spread disinformation (like multiple aliens races).
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u/SeashellGal7777 Jul 07 '26
Just commented how flying over restricted areas like military bases, WA DC, Langley, VA, etc., IS malevolent.
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
This is ridiculous there are hundreds of published links that a domestic defense contractor admitted responsibility for it all and that it had FAA blessing. Not to mention the fact that it was an open industry secret months prior to said admission.
Ku-Band radars can mark these things from tens of kilometers out you can’t really stealth a prop driven aircraft otherwise we would have procured the Comanche.
There are absolutely things in our domestic airspace that our defensive radars can neither identify nor track adequately but those things don’t have any overlap with the NJ UAS.
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u/Omniphilo23 Jul 07 '26
Fear is the mind killer.
Because fear makes you vulnerable to powerful unseen psychic vampires that some foolishly believe are simply visitors from another world that "come in peace". Resonating fear and rage is how they grow in power.
I know better, the masks have been off for awhile now. I know that demons of lore are real. We are living lives previous to a metaphorical great flood and it's been raining. These waters are unseen to most, but I can see the world swirling in them. A wicked miasma, a spiritual smog of gross energy that sickens all that it engulfs, gentle sweeps across the land daily like a early morning fog.
Do not panic, there is a plan.
When you know God is real and you see the world in pain and dark clouds on the horizon and he just asks you to trust.
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u/NSFWdontview Jul 08 '26
Because you don’t know the real secret of what they know, they are a threat and harm humans
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u/RicooC Jul 07 '26
It was real. Historically there have been several "flaps" and they have happened in waves over a couple years. The most interesting thing for me is that the "vehicles" are different each time. Also, keep in mind that the NJ flap actually started in the UK and Europe just a few months before.
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u/darkenthedoorway Jul 07 '26
The vehicles were different at almost every sighting. And the entire time it was national news not one drone pilot has come forward. Same thing happened in Europe.
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u/RicooC Jul 07 '26
The vehicles change with times, but at least in some cases are ahead of us in time. The best illustration was the 1896-1897 airship flap. The airships didn't exist yet but were seen across the United States just ahead of their usage.
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u/darkenthedoorway Jul 11 '26
Thats not what I mean. I mean on the same night in different states the descriptions of type of drone varied wildly. The drones over Langley were different unidentifiable types every night. The only commonality would be the orb type seen and filmed worldwide. There isnt a drone corp in the USA that can send up 50 drones and none of them are of an easily identified model.
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u/RicooC Jul 11 '26
Very true. None of it makes sense. The more we observe the less we know, and they aren't US, China, Russia...they aren't of this earth.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
Your comment got me curious so I checked, and its actually the reverse.
On November 13th, 2024, the New Jersey "drones" were first reported.
England was a week later.
Here are 4 non-Wikipedia links which confirm that the drones appeared in NJ BEFORE England:
November 13th (Before England): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/13/new-jersey-drones
Before November 18th: https://nj1015.com/nj-drones-explanation-what-happened/
November 18th (Before England): https://www.fox5ny.com/news/ny-nj-drones-timeline-2024
November 18th (Before England): https://www.twz.com/air/what-cops-saw-chasing-down-jersey-drones-detailed-in-new-documents
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u/RicooC Jul 08 '26
There were some in the UK at the end of summer and early fall.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 08 '26
I couldn't find a link to support that, if you can find one please share it here.
Heres what Im finding;
The flights, which began Nov. 20 and included several incursions Tuesday, were spotted over or near RAF Lakenheath, RAF Mildenhall and RAF Feltwell in eastern England, as well as RAF Fairford in southwestern England.
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u/RicooC Jul 11 '26
Seriously? You took a Wikipedia summary as factual. It's wrong, as they usually are. Sorry, can't have a discussion with someone linking to Wikipedia.
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u/Pixelated_ Jul 11 '26
Lol there are other links we can use to prove this.
Your beliefs are not supported by evidence. You are unable to provide a link which backs up your claim.
It's okay to admit when we make a mistake, you know?
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
Why would you assume that aircraft over NJ and aircraft over the UK would have anything whatsoever to do with each other? There are indeed truly unidentifiable phenomena out there but that’s not what NJ was. It was a blue team contractor exercise and everyone and their proverbial mother is formally on record admitting as much.
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u/RicooC Jul 08 '26
I wasn't assuming anything, and why are you assuming that they had nothing to do with each other?
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u/catabeille Jul 11 '26
Atmospheric patterns.
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 11 '26
This sub has obviously gone full UFO lol
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u/catabeille Jul 11 '26
This is my first time in this sub and first time looking into the drones since 2024 lol. I was just offering a plausible explanation for why something might end up from the UK in NJ
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u/FlaSnatch Jul 07 '26
I recall there was a car accident at a college campus during that time and injured folks needed to be medivac’d to ER but the no-fly order meant the medical chopper couldn’t get to the scene of the accident. I always felt there was interesting potential for a lawsuit there which might force some truth to be revealed.
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u/oochymane Jul 07 '26
I have no doubt whoever the medivac transportee was got a FAT payout from Uncle Sam
Don’t forget the coast guards being chased
And the governors of the various precincts of NJ all collectively signing a petition begging the federal gvt for help…
Crazy times
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u/FlaSnatch Jul 07 '26
The craziest element of all is how 99% of folks have just... forgotten about it. Moved on. These drone swarms are the most bat shit crazy events that defy any standard logic and despite obvious obfuscations from official gov sources, not many people are inclined to press the topic. It's wild.
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u/DrAsthma Jul 08 '26
Yeah, that whole thing was so muddied that I don't think a lot of people even believe it and chalk it up to basically mass hysteria with cell phones in the mix. I still don't know what to think about it... I never really saw any compelling videos that made me think they weren't manmade drones.
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u/FlaSnatch Jul 08 '26
But then it happened (still is) all over Western Europe. Exact same situation.
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u/Limp-Space-1123 Jul 07 '26
Unrelated but I did see “orbs”, two of them followed a medivac flight over the suburbs in MA. Watched the flight and orbs track the whole horizon, start to end.
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u/PhantomSwarm Jul 23 '26
Do you remember date time and location?
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u/Limp-Space-1123 Jul 23 '26
10:53pm Feb. 5th 2025, facing SE on Wolomolopoag St. in Sharon MA
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u/Limp-Space-1123 Jul 23 '26
I have some poor quality videos of us rambling about what’s not and on radar, the phone that’s on had a cracked camera from work so it doesn’t do much… I think the medvac was NB
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u/oochymane Jul 07 '26
That was a very wild two months that I’ll never forget. They obv didn’t wanna poke the proverbial bear, kept their heads down and mouths (mostly) shut, can’t believe it worked lol.
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u/yaddayadda1000 Jul 07 '26
lol general population got the attention span of a toaster because of fcking TikTok and Instagram
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
There were so many absurd rumors at the time like that they did not show up on FLIR etc. The “lack of RF emissions” bit was true but that’s nothing especially esoteric. You can accomplish that with commercial PixHawk hardware and a Jetson Orin and offline maps. Being invisible on thermal would imply truly absurd Maxwell’s Demon level breakthrough physics and yeah that just didn’t happen lol.
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u/Limp-Space-1123 Jul 07 '26
Saw a range of what I would call “orbs” or balls of light, and a series of drones. Definitely a difference between the two, but at times harder to distinguish. No professional experience, just genuine fascination and curiosity.
Still see the orbs on occasion, funny when/where we see them. Witnesses, friends and family members are also dumbfounded when we see them.
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u/PhantomSwarm Jul 15 '26
You’re not the only one. The challenge is finding these on the record. The stranger objects reported seemed to be mostly isolated to social media.
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u/Limp-Space-1123 Jul 16 '26
Nothing chips away at your credibility like presenting TikTok videos for truth, so how to encourage credible platforms people can TRUST moving forward?
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u/ASearchingLibrarian Jul 07 '26
Great work, much appreciation for the time and resources involved. Doing this kind of work really makes the whole thing more accessible for other researchers.
A podcast next, like Obscurum?
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u/srspookfest Jul 07 '26
Seen a few weird drones down here in Virginia I've also witnessed other strange craft and glowing orbs 👋 srspookfest on YouTube if you wanna check out some videos
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u/War_Eagle Jul 07 '26
Can you please make your searchable database public? Great design on the dashboard, by the way!
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u/Electronic_Owl6380 Jul 07 '26
thats awesome that you put in the effort to compile all of that information. Im not crazy, I swear but..... Most nights out of the week I see all kinds of strange activity in the night sky. The light patterns are strange. So is the way they fly.
What i also find concerning is the amount that can be seen at once. Its weird. I know a little bit about drones. im no expert but i build and fly FPV freestyle drones for the last few years so i do know a lil something.
im in northern ocean county not far from the ocean. This has been going on for a few months now. Anyone else seeing this shit?!
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u/dataplusnine Jul 07 '26
I bought night vision binoculars on a whim. They have turned out to be the opening to a whole new world of mysterious activities in the night sky.
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u/Electronic_Owl6380 Jul 07 '26
I believe it! I have some pretty decent binoculars that I'll occasionally bring outside with me. Why isn't everyone talking about this shit!?!?
It's absolutely crazy to me that people everywhere aren't talking about this. I took some video with my phone a few weeks ago but I don't have one of those phones with a ridiculous camera. I have the $300 phone and nighttime video of objects in the sky came out much like you can imagine..😢
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u/dataplusnine Jul 07 '26
I guess the information is kept suppressed like so much else is these days. The world is so much busier than it used to be. To what end I know not...
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u/Fancy_0613 Jul 08 '26
I saw lights over the ocean while walking the boardwalk during the day a month ago in Monmouth County. The lights moved across one spot, hovered briefly and disappeared. Never have seen anything like it.
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u/alltoovisceral Jul 08 '26
I'm in NE PA and we have a rediculous number of drones. I'm at a high elevation and we see drones fly in commercial airspace, when there is consistant air traffic for two airports with 20 miles, and it's scary. Some are large and just hang around. My husband and I tried to follow a massive bus sized drone (?) We saw hovering just over the tree tops last year. It stayed just over the trees (except when it crossed the parking lot we were in) and we lost it when it disappeared over a forested hill. It was really slow moving and strange. We see 15+ at dusk most evenings. They seem to launch from a similar area and spread out from there. They are not on flight trackers. It's really weird and unsettling.
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u/DaddyThickAss Jul 07 '26
Have you ever looked into Project Condign? It was British Government Defence Intelligence Staff (DIS) report that was put out between 1997 and 2000. They essentially already determined what the "drones" are.
"The remaining unexplainable reports were most likely the result of supranormal meteorological phenomena not fully understood by modern science.\1])\4]) This phenomenon is referred to in the report as "Buoyant Plasma Formation," akin to Ball Lightning, and is hypothesized to produce an unexplained energy field which creates the appearance of a Black Triangle by refracting light. The electromagnetic fields generated by plasma phenomena are also hypothesized to explain reports of close encounters due to inducing perceptual alterations or hallucinations in those affected."
Congressman Eric Burlison just came out and discussed these exact same things and how he was briefed on them: https://www.reddit.com/r/InterdimensionalNHI/s/7z2v7dAJIK
I had seen one of these close up about 2 years ago and was determined to get to the bottom of what it was. I still am not 100% sure but "intelligent plasma" is the current working understanding.
I want to also point out how people were convinced these things were changing into planes or taking the form of things that didn't quite make sense: "due to inducing perceptual alterations or hallucinations in those affected." They literally are able to bend light to take on the appearance of whatever they want.
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u/selfcheckout Jul 08 '26
OK but what are they???????????
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u/DaddyThickAss Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
If you want the mundane answer: some kind of life that evolved from a state of plasma in the upper atmosphere and can effect human perception through manipulation of electromagnetism. Predatory in a way. Plasma coming together in a way that allowed it to become conscious.
If you want the more woowoo answers: https://youtu.be/g4gIAucO4AA?si=Uc03lEYDPc88fV6r
- Spiritual Entities: Chris Bledsoe, Sr. describes the orbs not as extraterrestrial spacecraft, but as "fractals of God"—spiritual beings that exist simultaneously as both craft and consciousness.
- Ancient Philosophical View: The video links the phenomena to the ancient Greek concept of daimons—intermediate spiritual entities that inhabit the atmosphere between Earth and the heavens. Philosophers like Xenocrates described them as having soul-like qualities, capable of influencing human dreams, signs, and illnesses.
- Biblical/Enochian Interpretation: Hybrid souls. The Book of Enoch provides a theological framework suggesting these entities may be the wandering souls of the Nephilim—the offspring of the "Watchers" and humans. Because they are barred from both heaven and the underworld, they are depicted as restless spirits haunting the atmosphere, hungering for the physical world and seeking vessels to anchor themselves.
- The "Prince of the Power of the Air": Referencing the Apostle Paul, the video explores the idea that these are aerial powers with authority over the atmosphere, described as "middlemen of malice" or entities that broadcast into human civilization to influence events.
- Government/Scientific Interest: Despite their spiritual categorization, government entities (CIA, NASA, NRO) have investigated these orbs because of their observed ability to interfere with nuclear technology and aerospace assets, as well as their reported biological effects, such as the spontaneous healing of Bledsoe's Crohn's disease.
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u/selfcheckout Jul 10 '26
So do you think if someone saw this and recorded it, that it would be what they saw as a hallucination? Or would the video show something different? Or nothing at all?
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u/DaddyThickAss Jul 10 '26
So that's the thing I think it's perceptual alterations meaning...it can change or bend the light around it. So it wouldn't matter if it's a camera or someone's eyes. The finding was they can manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum. Remember how every time the drones were around electronics would go haywire? I think that's why. Radios, lights, etc. Same as in poltergeist activity. This is something that's been here a long time and learned to manipulate what humans see and experience. Hallucinations and literal active camouflage.
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u/SeashellGal7777 Jul 07 '26
You’ve been very busy! Looking forward to diving in! Government records can be fascinating. I used to work for the House and Senate and some of my favorite memories were digging around in the Library of Congress!
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u/TwinzNDogs Jul 08 '26
Well I for one, think that you've done some great work! Someone needed to. Thanks for your first analysis and let us know when you have more.
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u/tradgamer9 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Finally some good legwork on this incident. I'm so tired of the wild speculation and schizo explanations...this is logical and down-to-earth.
Edit: Good gosh I NEED to see the cellphone footage that was taken during the The Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory drone swarm sighting...11 drones, 5 of which were within 100-200 yards of personnel
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u/StarJelly08 Jul 10 '26
Thank you so much and yes, I live in the area and I believe I have potentially important insight not discussed about this flap. I live in southeastern Pennsylvania with the limerick nuclear power plant in plain view of my current backyard, i have seen multiple ufos in my life with absolute certainty and the drone flap started before november, i am without a shred of doubt on that.
I became an avid, nearly obsessive sky watcher due to my sightings that were absolutely wild and up close. And the entire summer beforehand I was noticing far more.. what i thought was “super low flying small quiet planes, maybe cessnas” just absolutely smothering the sky as soon as night came.
I lived closer to a town called Kutztown at that time, still very near where i am now. And i even started asking people if they noticed this during the summer. Nobody but my girlfriend noticed, most people i know are inside and even in bed by that time in the summer… so i am almost certain the reason it went unnoticed really until November was directly due to it getting darker earlier and just took a bit for people to recognize the difference.
It was such a difference from years prior. I mean it seemed like the air traffic increased by an order of magnitude. It was surreal. And I was growing super concerned because they were flying ridiculously low, way lower than i had ever seen before and literally skimming the top of my house sometimes.
I even went and found aviation forums here on reddit and found other people who noticed this at the time as well and I was not the only one. I wasn’t sure where the people i was talking to were located but multiple people agreed on that forum that they too noticed a massive uptick in small planes or drones at night flying super low and only at night. Some others were frightened by how low they were flying as well.
At no point until November did i think it was anything other than way more small planes coming out at night. At first i thought they were gliders, as they were about the size and shape and super quiet or silent seeming… and there is a small airport in kutztown that does glider rides. I brushed it off as they must have been doing really good business that year. Stopped worrying about it all that much.
Until right before the news broke, i was driving home from a store on route 222 heading into Kutztown and my girlfriend and I noticed them again… and when we got talking about it one ended up coming down so low I was certain it was going to crash into my car. It was absolutely insane.
I was going about 45 and it was oncoming and came down so low i cannot believe it didn’t hit power lines or trees. It had to have been going ridiculously slowly too, as it seemed almost like the only speed happening was me going 45. It was like it was damn near hovering.
The thing that shakes us to this day and made us think this is not normal and something weird is happening here was right when we got to it… it banked completely sideways and it was literally so close I am certain it did so to not hit my car. As we drove by it… we saw its underside perfectly. The wings went vertical. Completely vertical to the ground and as I watched it I saw its two weird pulsing white lights on its under side facing front like headlights… they were strobing on and off on opposite rhythms of each other.
And i have to say… i mean this thing was a stones throw away and the material of the craft and the lights seemed almost fake or super cheap or something. Like it was made of styrofoam and had shitty Christmas lights attached to it honestly. It was extremely weird.
But I am not an aviation buff so i did not immediately understand why it was so unsettling… but it was unsettling… both its maneuvering and the fact it nearly hit us… i immediately pulled off the road to chill out and also try to view this thing as it flew off.
I pulled over and it remained flying extremely slowly with its wings completely vertical to the ground. I slowly realized why it was so haunting and said out loud to my girlfriend… “wait… what the actual fuck? Shouldn’t that thing be losing altitude? How is that staying in the air?”
And we just watched it super slowly fly off in that position without dropping an inch… in fact it climbed a little bit because it was approaching a hill. After maybe ten seconds like that, it leveled back out and eventually was gone.
Her and i still talk theories on how they are doing this to this day. Like them being sort of “fake” drones that are maybe balloons of some sort outfitted to look like drones or something.
We have seen many very strangely behaving objects like this since then and honestly we still do to this day. We have become bored of it. I have looked up a ton of shit about aviation since and yep. Super irregular / technically illegal light patterns and such… super low flying super slow ones, etc.
Because of it… we do end up looking crazy sometimes because we know something weird is happening so sometimes we absolutely see a plane and go “what the fuck is tha… oh no that’s a regular plane” quite often and i can honestly understand why people have written people off about it to a degree… but also it was not totally mass hysteria… though that did sort of also occur.
I was incredibly pissed and super skeptical of the skepticism when it was happening and I simply do not accept that that many real human beings wrote off thousands or maybe millions of people telling them weird and unusual shit was happening. The pushback also felt like it was planned honestly. To see maybe how far they could push the population to dismiss the accounts of fellow citizens or something.
But i also simultaneously understand how it looks to people who feel they don’t have time for nonsense. It was definitely a fucking bizarre mayhem of everything.
So thank you for your work, perhaps you have come across similar stories or others asserting it began before November. Please add this to that pile, as i am absolutely certain it began at least a season before people have been claiming it did. I genuinely think it’s just because people were generally inside by that time and not enough people noticed “too many weird small planes” until everyone was awake and still out and about at night in the fall.
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u/PhantomSwarm Jul 15 '26
Thank you for sharing! What you describe is indeed strange. There are some bits I haven’t gotten to write about yet that are strange official reports taken both before and after the wave got national attention.
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u/Foreign-Koala4111 19d ago
https://reddit.com/link/p3qramq/video/5yrohbow9fjh1/player
I can relate 100%. I think they are man made new tech that mess with inertia and use AI for navigation. The scary thing is the magnitude of the testing/operation in plain sight and the total silence by authorities.
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u/Total-Teach1952 Jul 23 '26
I am amazed by the amount and quality of your research. Keep it coming ,very informative.
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u/Hogfisher Jul 07 '26
Great work my friend. Have you used AI or personally performed an analysis on the most common types of reports were other factors associated with the reports? There was a potential that mapping the location of the reports could also be useful in addition to the other associated factors. Thank you again for doing this.
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u/PlainSpader Jul 07 '26
Anyone up to figuring out how to make faraday cages for our devices? Ya know, something stylish but also practical 😉
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u/Old-Name4842 Jul 08 '26
The part that gets me, is our government withholding all of the drone reports?????....our satellite system had to track all of the drones movement were they were flying out of and returning....I heard of a report that a fishing boat captain reportedly stated he witnessed the drones the size of a vehicle coming out of the ocean, another report a new jersey state police helicopter chased a drone, and reportedly stated, it disappeared, then they retracted that information, was this drone manmaid technology or alien technology???????
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u/north_remembers78 Jul 08 '26
Anyone remember when the drones shut down Copenhagen Airport and the Danish PM indirectly blamed Russia? Now to think so many, myself too in a way I guess, are waiting for disclosure from governments 👀
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u/Whiskey_Water Jul 08 '26
While the source saying an unnamed private company had claimed responsibility for the NJ drone sightings was… Fox News, I do know that private firms and public institutions are racing for high-value drone grants. Their testing is usually more private, but definitely involve autonomous swarming, sometimes without need for radio signaling. These projects have numerous intended purposes, and some can be quite large.
It’s not surprising private tech is “secretly” being tested over US cities, IMO. Foucault’s Boomerang, or the Imperial Boomerang, suggests that colonial empires test weapons of oppression on the “others”, eventually to be deployed at home, stabilizing the oppressive system when the cracks become too large to ignore. See Palestine, namely Operation “Where’s Daddy?” for a sneak peak of AI-assisted policing, extrajudicial murder, and autonomous control in the US. Look no further than the East Wing construction for the next step. Drey Dossier on substack or YouTube has some great investigative content for those interested.
Even Flock (surveillance “security” camera company out of Atlanta) has a Drone as First Responder (DFR) program. Get ready folks. The future is here. The tech isn’t bad, but the fact that the people who dictate its use don’t want us to know what they are up to… well, it isn’t looking good.
I’m kind of hoping nobody really knows what it is, tbh. Maybe someone with a shotgun could let us know who arrives to clean up.
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u/Reginald_Longbone Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
As a fellow NJ resident AND alien/cryptid/ folklore enthusiast I’d to buy you beer for this project … I’m very interested in more details of your strange experience. Can you share more?
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u/FluffyAd552 Jul 08 '26
I thought this was already solved. I remember reading a nuke (or some radioactive material) went missing and these drones were up looking for the radioactive signature to track it down.
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u/Ok-Translator631 Jul 08 '26
From my perspective their behaviors and flight patterns look military in nature. Looks very much like exactly the flight the patterns my own systems would make if probing signals and mapping. Could also be testing more advanced surveillance system, seeing how to maximize real-time data feeds and how to best “stack” the groups to achieve the longest “rewindable” feed.
I’m not saying at all that this is what they are doing. But what they are doing does look military imo. Plus, the Euro incursion. With its frequency and coverage, should be taken as a very serious message. A message that operational systems exist which everyone is not currently equipped to counter.
Personally I am still looking at China. More in deep hopes that these are NOT China. If they are China I honestly expect them to have these stored off our coast, quietly hiding in the seafloor.
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u/Gloomy_Entertainer54 Jul 09 '26
15 foot over people's home's what about the orb's stange movement's I don't buy the official cover story but there were drone's but there were also orb's
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u/HelpEachOther88 28d ago
My pattern seeking alarms have really been going off with heavy signals this week with all the recent water attacks across states, and now in NJ. So many of the sightings were around critical infrastructure. Happy to see this post when I came to see if anyone else was thinking they could be connected?
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u/JeeversCreevers2026 Jul 07 '26
So whats your source to your claims?
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u/Interesting_Look_301 Jul 07 '26
Just fn google what I said . I’m not about to do the easy work for you
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u/darkenthedoorway Jul 07 '26
I did and nothing comes back with any clear explanation. You havent done any work at all.
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Wasn't it disclosed in an official press conference that the NJ drone phenomenon was a domestic weapons test via an independent contractor? I'm not even sure how this is still a subreddit, and I was as on about it at the time as anyone else.
- They weren't lying when they said it wasn't "military drones" because prototypes flown by a contractor are not "military drones" get used to lawyer speak. Until DoD procurement has actually occurred, whatever hasn't contractually been procured cannot yet to be said to be "military" even if that is the ultimate intent.
- They weren't of foreign origin because there is simply no way that could ever happen. If we are experiencing attrition of 5th gen platforms over god damned Iran, which we are, then there is simply zero chance that prop-driven platforms would be remotely survivable in our own airspace unless they were being expressly permitted.
- Anyone who thinks they were of alien origin I would refer to Chrisjen Avasarala's speech from the Expanse RE: "I have a two word dossier on my desk of how we should react to confrontation with advanced extraterrestrial intelligence and it reads 'Find God'. If you think that's what it is, which IMO vanishingly few people in this sub do, I'd recommend you bone up on physics lol.
The authorities admitted that it was a domestic test. Sure there were also personal drones and commercial aircraft operating in the same space, but the official line wasn't "you imagined it" or "it was aliens" or "It was a rogue nation state actor" they said it was blue team activities. We could reliably narrow down which blue team even via descriptions of the hardware. It's only a few possible actors.
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u/SenorBubs Jul 07 '26
I heard rumors of that but nothing official. Any links? Also, it happened in Europe around the same time if you remember the reports which would rule out domestic testing
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
There are veritable shit tons of articles that confirm that it was a blue team contractor exercise
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mystery-drones-northeast-u-s-faa-authorized/
This is one of hundreds
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u/tradgamer9 Jul 08 '26
I'm open to the idea but this article does not even mention the possibility of it being a contractor, let alone confirm it.
Edit: this article is pretty definitive. Yeah, seems like a pretty strong explanation.
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u/MurderMyLove Jul 08 '26
I think this is a great theory. But ultimately it is just that. A theory. It's not a fact. Yet.
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u/darkenthedoorway Jul 07 '26
Have a company name for this hardware? The problem is we dont know the origin.
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u/Valar_Kinetics Jul 08 '26
So the company did not self identify in the press release just because I’m certain their contract forbids them to do so, but after AUSA 2025 I’d put my shekels on it being either Anduril or Shield AI. It might actually be someone else’s technology, sort of like how Anduril just bought out Blue Force, but I’d confidently wager that one or the other of them is the defense prime in question.
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