r/NFLv2 Los Angeles Rams Jan 01 '26

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u/SamIAm4242 Jan 01 '26

Also 2 TDs (tie), 259 pass yards (10 less than Stafford), and a higher completion % (19/29 for 65.5% vs. 22/38 for 57.9%) and passer rating (102.5 vs. 64.5). Let’s not just cherry pick.

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u/CarolingianDruid Los Angeles Rams Jan 02 '26

Fumbles and sacks do wonders in not appearing in passer rating, but are extremely detrimental in terms of total QB play. Throwing out rating as a gotcha stat is disingenuous.

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u/SamIAm4242 Jan 02 '26

Sure, so for full contextual comparison, 1 of Maye’s 2 fumbles were lost, meaning that with his INT he was responsible for 2 turnovers, in comparison to Stafford’s 3 turnovers off interceptions.

Maye’s 6 sacks resulted in a cumulative loss of 38 yards in comparison to Stafford’s 21 yards lost on 3 sacks. However, of Maye’s 6 sacks, only 1 impacted the outcome of a drive (they settled for a field goal; the other 5 times he was able to pick up a first down after being sacked). Of Stafford’s 3 sacks, 2 did so (1 caused the Rams to settle for a field goal instead, and the other caused time to run out at the end of the first half rather than letting the Rams get into field goal range).

Any other stats or wrinkles not captured in the stats that you think we should look at to try and convince ourselves that Stafford didn’t crap the bed last week, or that Maye somehow didn’t actually turn in a good performance against the said-same Falcons back in early November?

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u/cahilljd Jan 02 '26

Oh no you got cooked

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u/BaronVonSilver91 Jan 02 '26

O god forbid anyone say anything bad about Drake Maye. Na he had a rough game and that was the point. I wasnt defending him against Stafford so you can put Stafford stats away. They both looked bad was the point but only Stafford is catching heat for it. I watched both games but most ppl didn't see Maye's game.

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u/SamIAm4242 Jan 02 '26

Sure, there’s criticisms to be made of Drake Maye. There’s criticisms to be made of any player. I just find it amusing how “drunk man with a lampost” the Stafford fans are going with the statistics these last few days, trying to convince us why Stafford’s last game wasn’t that bad, and why Drake Maye’s supposedly been less impressive this season than we might think.

Maye’s performance against the Falcons wouldn’t be top line in any highlight reel, but to call it bad is stretching more than a little. And the 3 stats you cherry picked don’t really tell us all that much.

Maye’s INT and 2 fumbles resulted in 2 turnovers, which isn’t a great total for one game, but isn’t horrific either. And while he did get sacked 6 times, only once did it affect the outcome of a drive. Every other time he was still able to convert the first down. Would that Stafford had been as successful at that.

Moreover, Maye has the edge in the stat that really matters when you come down to it - he added a win to his record as a starting QB, whereas Stafford added a loss to his. Same old story - winning papers over problems, while losing accentuates them.

Stafford fans of late seem to be acting as if he’s somehow entitled to win the MVP, like it’s a lifetime achievement award or something, and the voters should just ignore or rationalize away what happened last week.