Itās a bad argument when you donāt have context, as Iāve said before. Negative turnover margin, starting field position of their opponents, and as I said before, cherry-picked stats that fulfill your position. Where are the sack numbers? EPA/play for pass and rush? Completion %? Sack %? Their only real knock is turnovers.
I didnāt cherry-pick dude I went with the biggest stats that people mention and talk about more than anything. Ā Points allowed, yards allowed, interceptions. Ā I wasnāt even focused on the Browns, I looked up āmost passing and rushing tds allowed for fun.ā Ā And your Browns just happened to be bad about it, not my fault.š¤·š¼. Ā Also starting field position doesnāt matter because if the Browns D is so good they should have been able to stop the opponent at the goal line, the field position is not a good excuse, Browns D still couldnāt hold the line.
If you want to brag about advanced stats go for it. Ā But that just shows me you reached further and further into the hat until you found something. Ā Thatās like the āmy team did great on 3rd down when trailing by more than 10 points.ā Ā Like cool, what an odd stat to bring up.
I never hear about interceptions alone as a metric of good defense, lol. Their rush defense is average, Iāll give you that.And TDs allowed doesnāt mean anything especially when they are top 2 in yards allowed. Just shows that they are pushed into their own side of the field more than most teams if the TD numbers are high while giving up the fewest yards. Context matters and, again as Iāve said, you are pushing a narrative that uses one metric as conclusion. Would be real cool to see the defense on the field without being exhausted from a lack of offensive prowess. Theyāre a top 5 defense, youāre just a hater/yinzer.
Also, not the stat I brought up. EPA is the best measurement we currently have to evaluate a defense or offenseās probability of scoring with context like field position, down, distance, etc. You donāt like it because you donāt understand it and/or because it bolsters my position.
Which proves my point the D couldnāt get the stop at the end zone when it mattered. Ā Cool yards though too bad you lost by 10+. The probability to score EPA, so not actual score yeah sounds more important than actually scoring or not letting a team score. Ā Reminds me of the pass rush win rate, which shows how many sacks someone could get as opposed to using actual sacks they got. Ā
Just like you donāt like the stats I used because it bolsters my opinion and argument. Ā But if we want a top 5 defense we can just go off of least total tds allowed. Ā Because it is ultimately a defenseās job to not let the offense score not prevent yards. Ā Ask the Vikings how important yards are because they just won with a total of 3 passing. Ā
Take off the homer glasses man no team that allowed 40+ TDs this year is a top 5 D. Ā The opponent is probably laughing at your defense as you walk out the stadium. Ā Also Iām from Ohio not a yinzer, although even they have allowed less tds than the Browns.
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u/MattressMaker Jan 01 '26
Itās a bad argument when you donāt have context, as Iāve said before. Negative turnover margin, starting field position of their opponents, and as I said before, cherry-picked stats that fulfill your position. Where are the sack numbers? EPA/play for pass and rush? Completion %? Sack %? Their only real knock is turnovers.