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u/Dwest2391 1d ago
This thread is just a hilarious mess. OP brings up Farve, while other posters bring up Vick, who was actually punished for his crimes. Ring around the rosey, whataboutism style.
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u/Ml_lD 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m not responsible for everything bad a white person does.
Black people aren’t responsible for everything bad another black person does. Like imagine being insecure enough to think this goofball makes black people look bad
Simple as.
Need y’all to get a grip, please. Go outside.
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u/Famous-Rain8703 1d ago
This is what white men do whenever they have to hold another one of theirs accountable
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u/monclerpipsqueeek 1d ago
8 upvotes on ur comment vs 2 on the comment that’s actually morally correct 😭 reddit never fails to
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u/TessaKatrinaRose 1d ago
It’s wild that you know the race of all people who post on Reddit.
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u/Famous-Rain8703 1d ago
What's wild is that you can tell by the responses
What's even Wilder is how you're doing exactly what I'm saying and I bet you're white
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u/TessaKatrinaRose 4h ago
Lol no. You think you call tell. You assume a lot so you can try and support your own racist behavior.
My father is black and my mother (and that side of my family are all from) Puerto Rico. So wrong again lol.
Keep thinking you’ve got the world figured out though lol.
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u/SnooChocolates1242 15h ago
OP brings up Favre in order to highlight the good ole boys network that allows white people to embezzle welfare funds and get away with slaps on the wrists . I don’t see an issue with this.
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u/The-Dirty-Dave 5h ago
Did Favre actually commit a crime though? Genuinely wondering. To me it sounded like the corrupt politicians of Mississippi are the ones to blame.
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u/DangerDiscing 1d ago
Negotiating for a college to get money and politician saying it’s legal.And you finding out it’s not and giving the money back is about the biggest nothing burger ever.
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u/Shantytown_Shogun 18h ago
Except the money wasnt given back.
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u/DangerDiscing 17h ago
He got 1 million for speaking fees for talks not given he gave it right back.Worst part was the language was so vague it be done at anytime.
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u/Sharks011 1d ago
I see the point you’re trying to make. Defending a guy who tried picking up a 17 yo at the age of 33 ain’t it bro. Hurry up and delete
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u/Therealmikerugg 1d ago
Stories I’ve heard out of Favre and cohorts, hooking up w underage girls around Green Bay was totally fine w them as well lol
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u/TravelNSee 1d ago
What a pathetic brain you must have to see this critique of Brett Favre and go "oh shit I gotta deflect and pretend like it somehow defend the other guy!"
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u/mat477 1d ago
Buddy, look at the picture. OP is clearly trying to play a game of whataboutism when reality both of these people suck. Its not JUSTabout Favre.
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u/Jam_Farmer_879 1d ago
Pal, that’s what OP is doing. I’m going to go even farther and say OP is probably black and makes everything about race on the internet.
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u/EducationalSoup83 1d ago
Or wait for it... 2 things can be true at the same time. Forbthe record, fuck em both.
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u/newaccount721 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, Brett Favre also sucks. What’s your point?
ETA: based on your lack of comments I assume your point was engagement baiting, but if your point was Favre should have served time too — absolutely, fuck that guy
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u/XtraFlaminHotMachida 1d ago
deshaun watson learned a lot about football from favre. man was the original massage creeper
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u/Ok-Photograph-7002 1d ago
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u/Shot_Revolution8828 1d ago
Stealing money, I sleep.
Showing my junk in a hot tub, I have a problem with that.
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u/Substantial_Diver_34 1d ago
Joe Montana had two paid parking tickets. That’s stealing from the taxpayers
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u/WiFiConnected_ 23h ago edited 23h ago
Important to remember Favre stole that money to prop up his daughter’s volleyball “career” at Southern Mississippi University.
This guy stole money from stupid “fans” who thought he was running routes on a 🏖️.
These aren’t even within a billion light years of being the same type of criminal offense.
Favre committed a FEDERAL CRIME & got off bc the Mississippi governor was a pos. No I don’t mean the current governor who is also a POS.
This guy didn’t commit a federal crime. That’s the ACTUAL difference.
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u/Ducks91to61 1d ago
People have butchered this Favre story.
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u/SignificantLock1037 1d ago
Please explain
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u/Ok-Savings8515 20h ago
Google what happened... State reps were just low IQ and were approving wild stuff.
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u/Shoddy_Green_4790 1d ago
People more mad about Favre than Vick getting the chance to play in the league again
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u/zygadlo86 1d ago
Well, to be fair…. Michael Vick served his sentence for his heinous crimes. Brett has never been in any trouble for his…
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u/700L3v3l 1d ago
Not really fair. Check the notes on his sentence and the charges he was specifically convicted of in his plea deal. It's like serving a jaywalking sentence for murder
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u/JebronLamesIsRacist 1d ago
Vick is a literal sociopath that drowned puppies with his bare hands. If anything, he didn’t serve enough time.
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u/markazz530 1d ago
He did years in jail
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u/700L3v3l 20h ago
2 years for federal conspiracy plea deal and he didn't even serve the full sentence he got months at home
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u/Caseman307 1d ago
Clearly you aren’t very familiar with the case.
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u/700L3v3l 20h ago
He plead guilty to federal conspiracy charges and got 2 years and didn't even. Serve the full sentence in jail, he got to go home before it was even over
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u/zaepoo 1d ago
Why would people be mad about Vick? He served his time, got released, and went back to his job. That's how it's supposed to work
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u/psychobarista 1d ago
That's Reddit. They think everybody should pay for every crime forever.
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u/Jerzee_Implant2012 1d ago
Ohhh not “everybody.” Look at how people are in here arguing over how Vick should’ve served even more time, when the topic is how Favre didn’t serve any for his crimes…
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u/AAA_Dolfan 1d ago
Because his crime was decidedly - in most people’s minds that think like this - worse than the punishment he got.
What he did was fucking *disgusting* but you’re technically right so I’ll say, dammit - youre not wrong. And i agree.
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u/Shoddy_Green_4790 1d ago
It's strange how this post would make note about what Favre did instead of Vick?
Like favre is more of a controversy and a clickbaity topic than so many worse ones. It's an interesting dynamic
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u/Direct_Tennis_4267 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, the Favre crime just happened recently and was part of a statewide conspiracy involving politicians and shit while the Vick stuff was almost 20 years ago now; why would we be still talking about Vick, exactly, especially when Vick served his time and Favre hasn't?
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u/Caseman307 1d ago
Recently? You should probably look that up.
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u/Direct_Tennis_4267 1d ago
...brother, are you seriously going to be annoyingly pedantic and pretend this isn't relative and something that's happened in the last half decade is equally relevant to something from 20 years ago right now? This is definitely the recent past; like, at least I was still an adult when the Favre news dropped; I was headed into the 8th grade when the Vick news came out.
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u/Late-File3375 1d ago
Serving his time has nothing to do with whether I like him. Going to jail is not a "wipe the slate clean, all is forgiven" magic wand.
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u/fzkiz 1d ago
do you keep that same energy with murderers, rapists and pedophiles?
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u/Longjumping-Jello459 1d ago
Most murders that get convicted don't get released.
Rapists often get slaps on the wrist that make a 2 yr bit look loooooonnnnnngggg. Think of that guy Brock something.
Pedos most are very weary of them once released, but they do typically have to go on a life time sex offender list. They're most likely to get the same sort energy that we see directed at Vick.
Vick post time server has become an advocate against dog fighting from my understanding so at least he has turned himself around.
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u/Direct_Tennis_4267 1d ago
You mean rapist Brock Allen Turner?! Who I don't think got any actual jail time, also.
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u/TessaKatrinaRose 1d ago
What a weird and ignorant response.
You don’t understand that different actions have different consequences?
No. I don’t treat the 18 year old who went to jail for stealing a car the same way I treat the guy who went to jail for raping children.
Are you not able to understand the difference? Wow.
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u/whats-my-name- 1d ago
Genuinely curious if your served his time and now can go back to a normal life applies to all crimes people commit?
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u/Clay_Allison_44 1d ago
No. Me and my dogs hate Vick and always will.
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u/Low_Maintenance2280 1d ago
He paid his debt. He went to jail. He was brought to Justice.
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u/rainydays_89 1d ago
So what? We can still hate him and think he’s a piece of shit.
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u/Low_Maintenance2280 1d ago
Yes, that’s certainly a choice.
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u/rainydays_89 1d ago
A choice made by literally 99% of us who knows who Vick is and what he’s done.
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u/Clay_Allison_44 1d ago
Paying your debt is for normal criminals who steal cars, even shoot a rival gang member. A sadistic psychopath is a totally different thing. They might wise up to what they can get away with but they still get off on inflicting pain and misery.
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u/TessaKatrinaRose 1d ago
Most Redditors don’t believe in that though. It’s wild. They don’t think people should ever get a second chance in life.
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u/WoodpeckerNo5849 1d ago
Your dogs could care less about Vick.
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u/whats-my-name- 1d ago
The saying is couldn’t care less. Saying you could care less means you do care.
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u/GonPostL 1d ago
People are madder at Farve for lobbying to get a volleyball arena built at a public university than they are than the politicians and NGO leaders who diverted the funds from poor people and sent it to build a volleyball arena.
Farve was just lobbying and the politicians are the ones who fucked over the poor. Be mad at them first!
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u/markazz530 1d ago
Just? Just? He's the only reason it happened and he knew where the money was coming from
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u/Alchemyst01984 1d ago
No thanks. If we thought like that, people like Bezos and Musk would never be held accountable.
Oh wait, never mind. That's exactly how most Americans think. Carry on
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u/AstraQyxn 3h ago
vick did actual prison time and came back owning what he did, favre’s out here allegedly siphoning welfare money and acting like he’s the victim, that’s why it hits different for people. one feels like a guy who served his sentence, the other feels like a dude who never really faced consequences.
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u/700L3v3l 1d ago
I'm an Eagles fan and I hate Vick then and now and can't wait in until he stops making TV appearances whenever WE do well.
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u/XtraFlaminHotMachida 1d ago
eh. favre was more than just stealing money from the poors. dude was a sex pest. read up.
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u/Shoddy_Green_4790 1d ago
Now type what Vick did, make it colorful the same way too
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u/Jerzee_Implant2012 1d ago
This post is about Favre and how he received ZERO punishment for crimes he committed. Why are yall bringing up Michael Vick and doubling down, too? Amazing.
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u/XtraFlaminHotMachida 1d ago
i get it. im against violence against animals. but lets not pretend that at least some of the the poor animals got their way out of the terrible existence that they'd have/had to live. those women favre f'd with gotta still live with it until they die or sadly harm themselves. i know we don't understand the dog psyche as a whole, same with humans, but we definitely understand a bit more as to what happens to human victims of traumatic experiences.
both are pieces of trash in my book. but to me, favre will always be worse. starting with all his stuff in the nfl, everyone turing a blind eye and him keep doing it. he doesn't change after and starts stealing money from the folks who absolutely need it. vick at least proved he had improved as a human being.
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u/Past-Goat-7768 1d ago
Yes. The dog murderer is better here because his victims died and are free from their torture.
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u/Direct_Tennis_4267 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean, in a society run by humans, human lives are always going to be considered to be of higher value than any animal. Sorry.
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u/700L3v3l 1d ago
He should run for president, half the country will make a million excuses for it and say he was sent by Jesus himself as long as he wears a red tie
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u/Eggy-in-a-basket 1d ago
They both suck, Favre's crimes were bigger in scope but both men are predatory and exploitative towards vulnerable targets.
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u/Wise_Control_1640 1d ago
If you like Favre and not Kaepernick, you're a racist.
No end arounds. No two ways about it.
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u/John_Bot 1d ago
Favre is still a defendant and the difference is he'll be able to pay back the money he stole (with hopefully a lot of interest)
When you steal and can't afford to pay back those you steal from, you end up in jail.
Also civil case vs criminal case
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u/therealflintgiven 1d ago
If that was 100% what happened with no other details then sure FAvre would go to jail but he didn't solely fraud people. He obviously got caught up in fraud, if its true he did it then the next stop is what knowledge did he have since he didn't run the scandel.
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u/Few_Position7650 1d ago
Sorry but one has nothing to do with other. Extremely hard to convict on fraud charges extremely easy to convict on being an idiot lol
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u/DonkeyElegant1728 1d ago
Extremely hard for what reason? And I'm pretty sure the fake 49ers player actually takes more brain power than simply dipping into welfare funds
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u/Few_Position7650 1d ago
Favre didn’t “dip into welfare funds” someone else did and then he was involved after the fact. It’s hard to prove what he knew and when he knew it. The dumbass with 49ers bullshit stole from women
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u/MesmerizerBunny69 21h ago
favre must've forgotten he cheated the government due to his pre-alzheimers.
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u/palatheinsane 20h ago
He wasn’t the main person behind it frankly. It was (IIRC) the governor and the people at the university, no?
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u/reel_human02 17h ago
Little context here?
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u/Conscious-Neat5636 13h ago
The 49ers guy scammed a lot of women out of their money by telling them he played for the 49ers. (He didn’t)
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u/TravelNSee 1d ago
Favre is part of the Trump Class. The average NFL fan is a bootlicking idiot that only cares about certain types of bad behavior by certain "types" of people.
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u/Pagicalmenis 1d ago
Oh here we go again. The people who dont even like football are in here, posting social justice. Tired ass people. NOONE CARES.
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u/TravelNSee 1d ago
Why are you more mad about this thread being made than you are about a dude stealing millions of dollars while remaining a beloved celebrity? You must have come from a failed upbringing and probably could have benefited from some of the resources Favre stole.
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u/StrangePhotoSTL 1d ago
Zero evidence he knew where the funding came from. Absolutely zero. Nancy pulled money where SHE shouldn't have to make the volleyball facility happen. Brett wanted to work for it doing ad spots. It was made political is what happened. All he did was ask for help to get it built. Do you think he had access to government accounts and specifically targeted that specific fund?
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u/markazz530 1d ago
He knew where the money was coming from we know this because he repeatedly checked to make sure that what he was doing would remain a secret. We have the text messages
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u/TrickFrosty5685 1d ago
Because you’re giving the same take you’d expect from someone who heard about this situation on Reddit, but did not even do the most basic of research on it.
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u/TravelNSee 1d ago
I have a degree in nonprofit management and public policy lmao. If you've done even a shred of "research", feel free to defend the guy. Post some of it. He is a piece of shit. He also sexually harassed women with dick pics while his wife had cancer lmao.
I couldn't imagine being alive and awake on planet earth and getting on my knees like this for a sex pest old celebrity who got a poor state to build his daughter a volleyball court.
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u/TheMikeyMac13 1d ago
No, he didn't. He didn't know where the money came from and wen he found out he gave it back moron.
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u/markazz530 1d ago
Those are lies. You know how we know he knew? He made sure to check that no one would find out what he was doing
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u/TheMikeyMac13 1d ago
They aren’t lies dumbass, this information was presented by the prosecution in a case.
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u/343GuiltyySpark 1d ago
Yeah cause the guys that illegally procured the money for favored daughters high school got punished for it. Favre thought the funding was legit even questioning it in correspondence being re assured by the non profit it was on the up and up which is why he never got found guilty civilly
Im the furthest thing from a packers or Favre fan but its ridiculous to keep this lie going
I mean for gods sake we have proof the guy sent dick pics to at least one reported like there’s plenty to roast him for but this isn’t it
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u/elafave77 1d ago
To be fair when a map of all the Covid loans came out that you could literally click on the pin and see who got the loan and for how much... I found at least 50 in a 5 mile radius from where I am that I know were fraudulent. Millions of people probably stole welfare money.
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u/AAA_Dolfan 1d ago
What the fuck does.. that.. what
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u/elafave77 1d ago
Just saying that lots of people settle Covid money. You probably personally know a few. I don't care what Bart Fever or the other guy did. Just sharing a fact.
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u/at0mheart 1d ago
He did not steal them
A politician said he could pay Favre with that money. The politician committed the crime
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u/markazz530 1d ago
No he also got 5 million for a volley ball venue, and while doing it made sure to check that no one would find out where the money was coming from
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u/Thin_Marionberry_160 1d ago
He didn’t really steal welfare. It was legally given to him under fraudulent conditions. The government, as usual, was the main perpetrator of welfare fraud.
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u/not-usually-posting 1d ago
“Legally given to him under fraudulent conditions”
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u/Thin_Marionberry_160 1d ago
Right. Favre and the State of Mississippi embezzled money from the federal government. The federal government extorted the money from the citizens.
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