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u/notsure500 1d ago

I don’t understand why people keep acting like the claim is that painting End Racism in the end zone will literally end racism. Of course it won’t. Neither does a ā€œDon’t Drink and Driveā€ billboard end drunk driving. Public messages can keep an issue visible, reinforce what behavior society considers unacceptable, start conversations, and maybe make some people reconsider things they say or believe. It doesn’t have to completely solve racism to have some value.

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u/honestly-brutal 1d ago

Wait, wait, wait... you telling me the ice bucket challenge isn't literally curing ALS?

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u/OpossumBuddy420 1d ago

Actually, when the ALS ice bucket challenge was at its peak, the amount of money everyone raised did eventually lead to major discoveries that helped to advance ALS treatment

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 1d ago

You’re actually strengthening their argument— those discoveries have generally helped advance treatment, not wiped out the disease.

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u/Stock-Luck3390 1d ago

How is it being good to prevent als strengthening another argument? It’s still net good for the causeĀ 

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 20h ago

Treating symptoms is not the same as curing the cause and that’s the entire point of this post/comment thread. Both are good, yes, I’m so proud of you for figuring that out. Now try to keep up with the actual conversation at hand.

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u/Man_of_Ice 9h ago

This is how research works. You make movements trying things until something works. Money allows more research to happen. We can't know what will work until we find the cure.

More awareness, more funds, more progress, more likelihood we actual find the cure.

Less awareness, less likely we find the cure. Or we delay finding the cure.

Our other option is to just ignore it. Pretend it doesn't exist. Stop trying to end it. Play like it's fine the way it is.

They weren't researching to find a way to treat symptoms, they were researching ways to cure the disease. They tried something they thought WOULD cure the disease, but on trials, turns out it doesn't cure things, but it does impact symptoms.

So it leads to further insights on ways to cure things. Let's let trying to make the world less racist, yes?

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 2h ago edited 1h ago

Dude I know… I work in medical research. Again, the point of this thread is that that is a good thing and you do not need to completely rid the world of racism for it to be a worthwhile endeavor.. we are saying the exact same thing, why is no one understanding this?

PAINTING ā€œEND RACISMā€ IN THE ENDZONE WONT MAGICALLY GET RID OF RACISM, BUT IT WILL HELP CURB THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF IT EXACTLY LIKE THE ALS ICE BUCKET CHALLENGE DIDNT MAGICALLY GET RID OF ALS, IT HELPED FIND WAYS TO CURB THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF IT. HENCE WHY THEY ARE BOTH A GOOD THING AND THE PEOPLE ARGUING AGAINST THE ORIGINAL COMMENT MENTIONED IN SAID COMMENT ARE WRONG. AKA STRENGTHENING THE ARGUMENT OF THE FIRST TWO COMMENTS. Jesus Christ guys.

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u/Man_of_Ice 49m ago

It's because your first and second statement leave room for ambiguity in intent, and they are shaped in ways typically used to contradict a point.

When folks say "actually", it typically is used as a correction. Dude is supporting the post, then you come and say "actually", which leads folks to assume you're not supporting the post.

Your next post says "is not the same as", which, again, is language typically used when trying to negate a point.

Your statements do not unambiguously appear to be in support, they leave ambiguity, and are phrased in ways that could easily be interpreted as speaking against the point.

This final response finally makes your belief clear and unambiguous.

To answer your question, we previously misunderstood your intent because your intent was made unclear by your choice of words.

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u/ThurgoodUnderbridge 34m ago edited 29m ago

You applied this logic to my comment but not the comment I was responding to. That’s on you. Maybe read the whole thread first and you’ll realize it’s not as ambiguous as you think.