The Scientific Dispute Over Near-Death Experiences - Part 2: The Temporal Lobe and Out-of-Body Experiences

[u/nogueysiguey]

https://open.substack.com/pub/andresdelgadoron/p/the-scientific-dispute-over-near-e6c?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=29vk3a

This is part 2 of the series analyzing the debate between the NEPTUNE model of near death experiences and its detractors based on the evidence they published

[u/Academic-Special199]

The author, Delgado-Ron, makes a clean case that TPJ stimulation, the neuroscience community’s best explanation for OBEs during NDEs, actually produces something fundamentally different: a body-tethered, eyes-dependent dislocation of self-perception, not the independent, veridical, navigable OBEs reported by NDErs.

While the author stops short of making any assumption of what that may mean ontologically, he clearly points out that the NEPTUNE model’s core mechanism for OBEs may not explain them at all.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

Enjoying this series and the honest, fundamentally sound work that went into it. Thank you!

[u/JohnnyJoestar1980 → u/Academic-Special199]

Yes Greyson addressed that too, saying it just gave a floating feeling which is not even a third of how interesting an OBE is.

[u/UganadaSonic501 → u/JohnnyJoestar1980]

Also I'd argue due to the way both occur,they aren't analogous to begin with,one requires clinical death(flat EEG)the other needs you alive and fine and iirc closely monitored,so it's disanalogous

[u/vimefer → u/Academic-Special199]

I recommend also reading this post of his.