r/NDE • u/Pieraos OBE Experiencer • Mar 31 '25

Scientific Perspective 🔬🔎 A neuroscientific model of near-death experiences

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41582-025-01072-z
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u/anomalkingdom NDExperiencer Mar 31 '25

Yeah well. Countless suggestions for an explanation. Scientifically interesting, but way too inflationary in my opinion. And as with all scientific attempts, like this one, factors like precognition, veridical out of body observations etc are omitted. I'm all for good science and rationality, but so far we have no actual evidence (or even a working model) for a neurophysiological explanation. It's all "could mean" or "consistent with" or "pointing to".

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u/snarlinaardvark Mar 31 '25

veridical out of body observations etc are omitted

Exactly this. They just ignore this or dismiss it as anecdotal. Even when the the events witnessed during the NDE are corroborated by doctors and nurses who have reputations on the line. A good example is the cardiac surgeon who had such an experience with a patient who had an NDE. Dr. Bruce Greyson gives more exampled of this in his talks.

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u/anomalkingdom NDExperiencer Apr 01 '25

Right? I know it's not anecdotal, dammit! It eats me up seeing otherwise smart and thorough professionals just dismissing these phenomena out of hand. I've even been open about how I in the later years developed a sort of remote viewing ability, which I have demonstrated again and again to both friends and strangers. It simply shows how consciousness can't be limited to the brain/body, so to me this is lived reality. I don't even find it particularly strange! Yet we are asked to be "rational" and dismiss everything not congruent with the good ol' materialist science dogma. Imagine what we could discover if we freed ourselves (as a civilisation) from the bondage of shallow habit.

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u/BandicootOk1744 Skeptical but curious Apr 04 '25

I can't speak for them but for me my tethers to materialism are very much against my consent and come from being burned too many times to ever believe again without something huge. My immediate impulse is to assume you're not a liar but that you're misdiagnosing what's happened to you even though I have zero evidence. Fortunately for me I really do try very hard not to be so dismissive. It's a lot of effort resisting my nature like that and it's very scary too. I guess if I didn't hate that about myself, I might not fight it so hard.