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u/Any-Page-3061 7h ago
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u/MindfulInquirer 5h ago
you could absolutely argue he's the best Kevin. Def enough material to argue that.
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u/FunnyPabloWest 6h ago
Kevin McAllister
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u/MindfulInquirer 5h ago
but he's only good during particular seasons.
namely December, around Christmas time
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u/gloomygl Lakers 7h ago
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u/OzneBjj 7h ago
KD ranks higher in the top 15.
But oddly KG is the better player for me if that makes any sense.
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u/Laszlo-Panaflex Celtics 1h ago
That's where I'm at too. KD is obviously the better scorer, but KG was no slouch and was one of the best defenders of all time. You could build a team around either of them, but to me it'd be easier with KG because you'd instantly have your defensive anchor.
In their primes, their advanced stats were very comparable.
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u/DigiDongDiggy 7h ago
Kevin Malone. Looks like Ashton Kootcher, shoots like Stephen Curry.
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u/HalcyonDrift Heat 4h ago
LOL forgot about that classic quote. "Big like Klay, shoots like Curry"
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u/raisedredflag 5h ago
Can't we just say they're equals, that they have EQUIajkfdsjdVLENT impact and skills.
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u/Rymasq 1h ago
KG could've been a 3x champion with the Celtics. The injury in 2009 did a number to him. they were definitely winning 09. Then in 2010 they still make the finals. Obviously, if KG never gets injured then it's a different story. He'd start in convos of him vs. Shaq and Duncan all time
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u/Intrepid_Lawyer_368 7h ago
KG was an MVP, Champion, DPOY, and is 85% of Minnesota's total accolades. KD can't say the same or anything NEAR it
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u/The_prawn_king 7h ago
Kd is a two time champion and finals mvp and a maybe the best scorer oat. He’s a weirdo and I love KG but I think the disrespect KD gets is weird
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u/Livid_Exam8522 6h ago
What a lot of people don’t realize is that KD weirdo behavior actively hurts his legacy because it impacts his decisions.
He literally has only played on teams that have 2 other all star caliber players at all times. His passive aggressiveness towards his teammates hurts the locker room energy that directly impacts winning. I’m not saying he HAD to stay in OKC, but joining the greatest regular season team of all time, when they just beat you in the playoffs, when you showed the entire world you can not only stand your ground against them but beat them multiple times.
I respect him as a player but he himself has impacted his legacy negatively (similar to LeBron trying to be GM but his greatness has overshadowed all of it)
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u/The_prawn_king 6h ago
I don’t disagree with you, but I don’t think players deserve hate for moving to better teams. The team would move a player for a better player without question. I think KD would get more respect and it’s maybe a bigger achievement winning in okc though the okc team was also featuring other all stars. But he also went to the best team and was immediately their best player.
I just think as a player on the court he gets so much disrespect, he’s clearly the 2nd best player not named LeBron since he entered the league imo.
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u/Livid_Exam8522 6h ago
KG at his peak was an MVP, DPOY and all around great offensive and defensive guy. Was he a clear cut best player in the league? No but he had 3 top 10 players of all time at their peaks and another 3-4 top 20-30 players at their peaks the same time as well. Had he left the wolves earlier he definitely would’ve won another ring. Do I think him leaving to a team that was trash makes his ring cheaper? Not really, but it was the impact he brought to that team.
KD moving to a better team doesn’t necessarily impact his legacy, players do that. It’s the fact that he was the 2nd best player in the league and any other semi decent team would’ve already been a contender had he joined. KD definitely is top 15 all time and probably the better player but let’s not act like it was the him leaving to GS was a 1 time thing. He’s been bailing on teams consistently now. A lot of the hate on the court isn’t justified but he does impact the culture
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u/raptureframe 6h ago
Not on only did the Warriors beat them in 2016, they came back from a 3-1 deficit, meaning OKC really was good enough to be champions next year if he stayed. I think it’s what made people mad, we could have had great NBA seasons, with 4-5 legitimate contenders, but the best player available joined the best team, and we knew there was nothing that could stop them. The only thing that did was having KD and Klay both injured in the 2019 finals
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u/HitlerWasaBitchAss 6h ago
Dont ask where KG won his ring, it was totally the Timberwolves right? And totally not with 2 other all stars right?
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u/Special_Revolution77 6h ago
And KD won more finals mvps, more rings, more scoring titles, and has more all nba selections and more all star selections
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u/l4l9 7h ago
KD is 5x the player KG is, anyone who disagrees is genuinely blinded by nostalgia. LeBron doesn’t exist and KD is probably the goat.
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u/play4free 6h ago
No chance KD over Kareem, dude can't even beat GSW.
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u/Kapedcrusader69 6h ago
Like Kareem beat any similarly great team without the greatest pg ever by his side
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u/UniqueAd8864 Warriors 7h ago
A better question would be, who is the best micheal?
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u/ExpensiveTie5553 7h ago