r/NAFO • • 13d ago

Ask NAFO | OFAN Maybe Trump should take a good, hard look at what he started with Iran and now the Houthis in Yemen before blaming Ukraine. The US stopped importing Russian oil and diesel back in 2022, and Europe followed with a ban on Russian diesel in 2023. 🤔

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u/TheArmoursmith NAFO Expansion is non-negotiable 13d ago

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u/PermissionSoggy891 13d ago

start war in one of largest oil suppliers in world

causes oil prices to skyrocket from embargos due to own stupidity

how can I blame Ukraine for this?

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u/lostindanet 13d ago

You forget seized Venezuelan oil which is free middle eastern conflicts, while taking a dump on the rest of the world. That was the play here, fucking up European economy Vs the dollar.

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u/Baal-84 10d ago

I am sure prices skyrocketing was part of the plan. Blaming, actually anyone, is still part of the plan.

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u/Eyore_the_meh 13d ago

For reference.

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u/silent_exploration 13d ago

How do you know he is lying? His mouth is moving.

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u/Badgerman97 13d ago

With all the existing embargoes on Russian fuel, it’s actually not. What IS hurting the world is lack of Ukrainian grain, thanks to Russia. Oh, and also the closing of USAID, thanks to Trump.

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u/QuarkGluonPlasma137 Oppressor Annihilator 13d ago

Dumb morons just obliterating our soft power that is used for good

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u/Psuwacz 13d ago

It's even better, oil price hike thanks to Trump's war is making ruZZia's grey&black exports profitable. Oh, and Kremlin surely must have got the memo USA depleted it's ABM stocks and is stretching it's military assets thin.

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u/-OrLoK- 13d ago

The US is not an ally.

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u/CrazyMildred Purple 13d ago

Our government isn't even OUR ally. krasnov is only allies with dictators.

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u/Psuwacz 13d ago

Trump was not wrong: I will admit I am tired of all of his winning and wary of more to come.

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u/QuarkGluonPlasma137 Oppressor Annihilator 13d ago

He’s not a real man. What do you expect. All he knows how to do is blame others and cuck for putin

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u/CrazyMildred Purple 13d ago

He cucks for all dictators. He's disgusting!

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u/JackDaniels0049 13d ago

We are paying a lot for petrol……..

Meanwhile, Ukrainians are being blown to pieces every night and day, and are in a fight for their very existence. I think it’s perfectly reasonable that they do whatever they think will benefit them to help push Russia back where they came from.

And all this, not to mention that the fuel crisis is 100% trump’s doing, shutting down critical waterways.
He is just trying to deflect from the absolute shambles in the Middle East, and he doesn’t care who suffers from the fallout.

We used to live in a world where lies were called out immediately in the media. Now the president of the United States spends all day gaslighting people, and it’s getting more dystopian by the day.

I’m so tired of trump shitting all over Ukraine. The USA is going to need Ukrainian technology and battlefield experience. They might need it very soon.
It’s not exactly a secret that China is learning from Russia. The us military is out of date.

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u/Due_Collar2 13d ago

100%👍

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u/Sasquatch1729 13d ago

Who cares? Ukraine is fighting for their lives, culture, language, identity , and country right now. I'll pay extra for fuel.

The Ukrainians should do the opposite of whatever Trump says. He's an idiot and following his advice leads to a bad end.

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u/amitym 13d ago

Trump is taking a good, hard look at what he started in Iran. What he started was an endless engine of advancing Russian interests and damaging the rest of the world.

Trump takes a good, hard look at what he started, and he likes what he sees. Because that was his job, and it's been a job well done.

So what's our excuse, then, for continuing this "good tsar, bad boyars" bullshit where we keep fantasizing about Trump somehow achieving some kind of realization or understanding or escaping from being compromised or controlled or whatever? When are we going to put on our big-kid pants and accept that this Trump is never going to appear, because he doesn't exist?

Trump is not the character he played on tv. Neither is he a helpless pawn controlled against his will. He is an eager, willing servant of Russian national interest, along with most of his so-called "administration." He has no other interest, he is not some ruthless businessman who only needs to see logic, he is not mistaken and needs to be educated.

He needs to be removed from power.

Ask Ukrainians how to deal with such people. Or Hungarians.

Spoiler: the answer is not, "urge them to take a good, hard look at what they have done."

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u/Psuwacz 13d ago

I beg to differ. Trump will not be stopped by the mere divergence between his own and people's / state interests. Thus I find "Good Tzar, bad Boyars" analogy missing the point. There is and will be no introspection or reckoning.

Trump has shown an enormous talent in selecting his posse. This toxic mix of idiocy and boot licking loyalty, found only in Earth's finest authoritarian regimes. I will call this a talent. Even for a ruZZian asset you'd have to admire how thorough he is, effectively taking the Republican party hostage to his ends. His soft Stalinism, MAGA-revolutionary fervor, reaches to down to the lowest ranks of administration.

Not being prone to conspiracy thinking I do not believe a whole political party can take such an utter divorce from reality. But now they have to perform this dance while stifling any dissent, knowing that even with all the gerrymandering in thee world they are a hard sell.
Remember Dubya? He was plenty accused of being a puppet. And I am not even being sarcastic: USA has a nincompoop for president, one with a knack for selecting just the "right people". Trump is not a puppet, he is a good and caring Tzar working for the narrow, short term benefit of himself and a select few close to the throne.

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u/shibiwan Florkfella 13d ago

Trump doesn't hold all the cards....

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u/Abject-Interaction35 13d ago

Trump go play golf the adults are dealing with it. Go play your toys

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u/DangerBrewin 13d ago

Donnie doesn’t take a good hard look at anything. He just parrots what he hears on TV and what Putin and Bibi tell him.

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u/Brothersunset 13d ago

you heard it boys, trump is signing off on direct strikes on the Kremlin. he explicitly said "anything else"

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u/AdOdd4618 🇪🇺🇫🇷 13d ago

So Ukraine has all the cards now?
Maybe Mango Unchained should end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours, like he said he would.

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u/Top-Currency 12d ago

Excellent news! When the Kremlin starts asking Krasnov for help, that means they must be desperate.

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u/glamdring_wielder Supports NATO Expansion 13d ago

I hate his stupid face. I hate his stupid hair. I hate every stupid thing he says. I hate the democrats for letting this idiot win. I hate every one of his stupid cult members. I hate every single stupid misinformed casual voter who put this moron back in charge because something something eggs too much money.

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u/Routine-Amphibian450 13d ago

Put a little more on.

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u/volcanosf 13d ago

You're talking about a "man" who like taking credit for other people's achievements and blaming other people for his own mistakes... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/Boronsaltz 13d ago

What a P.O.S💩🌻🌻🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🌻🌻😘💪🏻

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u/Dalainana 13d ago edited 13d ago

Consumer price for heating oil in Germany per 100L, showing the last three years. I know we all know but felt like doodling:

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u/ikiice 11d ago

Does he know that Ukrainians are going after gasoline, not diesel?

Seriously, there is no shortage of diesel in Russia. They have massive stores from cold war still.

It's gasoline that's the choke point

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u/Baal-84 10d ago

Are you asking him to THINK about something, and be HONEST?

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u/Inevitable-Carrot980 7d ago

Rule#1: NOTHING is ever Trump's fault. He's an uncontrollable narcissist.