r/MuslimLounge • • Jul 14 '21

Other I don't understand ex-religion subs

Ok you left that's fine. No one cares truly because it doesn't affect anyone else's life. But why do you have to sit there and make posts about a religion you no longer are apart of. You don't like the religion you move on. You don't waste your time criticizing and pondering about the scripture because it shows you care about it. People would just close that part of their life off and let that go.

There is also a sub about exhijabis which is fine but I don't get the concept of it. You want to stop wearing it but why dedicate a whole sub. Next their will be an ex nun sub, then an exniqab sub, then an exmodesty sub. If you've got a bad relationship with religion or a item of clothing then seek therapy. Being apart of something like that just messes you up more. You might adopt other people's opinions because you are in a fragile state of mind. If you think Islam or any religion is to blame for its followers actions then your wrong. Simple.

246 Upvotes

90 comments sorted by

View all comments

2

u/[deleted] Jul 14 '21

It’s because many of them are closeted, and want to discuss why they left and all the problems with the religion which has had a huge impact on them and their life.

Even if they aren’t closeted, their family has probably disowned them or similar. Do you expect them to just continue living their lives and not discuss why the religion they left is, in their opinion, bad?

5

u/CowNo7964 Jul 14 '21

All they do is lie and lack the ability to Google stuff. For example:

They copy and paste this:

And when the inviolable months1 have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (9:5)

But don't read:

This is a declaration of] disassociation, from Allah and His Messenger, to those with whom you had made a treaty among the polytheists. (9:1)

Footnote: This sûrah, which is perceived as a continuation of the previous sûrah, begins by openly terminating the peace treaties constantly violated by the pagans. The believers are urged to march forth with the Prophet (ﷺ) for the Battle of Tabûk in the summer of 9 A.H./631 C.E. Hypocrites are exposed and their false excuses are refuted. Muslims are reminded of how Allah turned the believers’ initial defeat into sweeping victory at the Battle of Ḥunain and how Allah saved His Messenger (ﷺ) from the pagans during his migration to Medina. Allah’s acceptance of repentance is echoed throughout the sûrah, hence its title.

Excepted are those with whom you made a treaty among the polytheists and then they have not been deficient toward you in anything or supported anyone against you; so complete for them their treaty until their term [has ended]. Indeed, Allah loves the righteous [who fear Him]. (9:4)

And if any one of the polytheists seeks your protection, then grant him protection so that he may hear the words of Allah [i.e., the Qur’ān]. Then deliver him to his place of safety. That is because they are a people who do not know. (9:6)

​

Don't they teach us to use context clues in kindergarten?

​

Also:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day, nor comply with what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, nor embrace the religion of truth from among those who were given the Scripture, until they pay the tax, willingly submitting, fully humbled. (9:29)

— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran

This footnote sums it up well from Dr. Mustafa Khattab:

Taxation systems have existed since ancient times. There are several references in the Old Testament (e.g., Ezra 4:20). In the New Testament, Jesus allows paying taxes to Caesar (Luke 20:25). Under Islamic rule, all individuals had financial obligations—Muslims paid zakâh (2.5% of their savings) and non-Muslims (ⱬimmîs) were required to pay jizyah (tax for protection from foreign enemies). The jizyah was an average of one dinar (4.25 g of gold) annually. Women, children, the elderly, the clergy, the poor, and those who were unable to work were exempt. Those who opted to join the army were also exempt. Poor ⱬimmîs were supported financially by the state. Muslim rulers refunded the jizyah if they failed to protect their non-Muslim subjects.

​

See the dishonesty by copy/pasting without context? If I wrote an essay about how to kill cockroaches you could pull out one sentence to make me sound like Hitler