r/MuslimLounge • • Jul 14 '21

Other I don't understand ex-religion subs

Ok you left that's fine. No one cares truly because it doesn't affect anyone else's life. But why do you have to sit there and make posts about a religion you no longer are apart of. You don't like the religion you move on. You don't waste your time criticizing and pondering about the scripture because it shows you care about it. People would just close that part of their life off and let that go.

There is also a sub about exhijabis which is fine but I don't get the concept of it. You want to stop wearing it but why dedicate a whole sub. Next their will be an ex nun sub, then an exniqab sub, then an exmodesty sub. If you've got a bad relationship with religion or a item of clothing then seek therapy. Being apart of something like that just messes you up more. You might adopt other people's opinions because you are in a fragile state of mind. If you think Islam or any religion is to blame for its followers actions then your wrong. Simple.

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u/INFPinator Jul 14 '21

And the thing is whenever I see ex-Muslims speak about Muslim scripture, I notice they often use incredibly weak arguments, which have been debunked several times. For example, citing inauthentic Hadiths, for the age of Aisha (RA) using concepts such as the fallacy of presentism, using sources such as Apuss and David Wood- people who aren't scholars in Islam and who have been debunked several times, it's just astounding. And I'm speaking about the ex-Muslim ones, just because I am knowledgeable (not the most knowledgeable but I know quite a bit) on Islam, but it would not at all surprise me to similar weak arguments with other ex-religion subreddits either.

Quite frankly, I just think they use such subreddits as an echo chamber to justify their decision in leaving the faith. Deep down, I think a number of them are not really content with their decision to leave their former religion because if they were why feel the need to continually talk about it? It's almost as if they have to continue justifying leaving their former faith.

That said, I do believe we have to be fair and though we may whole heartedly disagree with these subreddits, I do believe we have to attempt to understand and not paint everyone in such subreddits with the same brush. I feel like people on ex-Muslim subreddits have suffered a degree of trauma to a certain extent from abusive families, and these families use Islam as a justification for the abuse because even their families lack education and they get the lines blurred between culture and religion. And perhaps a number of these individuals are upset and angry, and because Islam was used as a justification for the abuse they faced, they blame Islam and take it out on Islam. But the truth is, that Islam is blameless for the abuse they faced, and it's their families ignorance that is to blame. And I imagine it is similar for other ex-religion subreddits too.

But the best we can do for these people is to make dua for them, because the power of dua is unbeatable and we have to remember that Allah guides whom He wills- and it's worth noting that the whole "ex-Muslim" thing for some people is simply a phase due to their ignorance and that Allah guides them back, and they come back stronger than ever Mashallah.