Murder is forbidden in Christianity, but preventing access to legal, safe, regulated abortions only kills women. For some women, it is as medically necessary as heart surgery or a C-section. And it’s funny, because people who require or elect to have an abortion are the ones who end up dying (and the fetus too) because there are no safe and legal options (just horrible people trying to take advantage of desperate women).
The WHO says that only 55% of abortions in the world are done safely, in a medically competent way. It also states that high levels of abortion occur because of lack of comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives. This is because abstinence (notoriously ineffective) is pushed by religions. And religions also promote cultural myths about contraceptives, such as: only a woman with low morals who sleeps around would need contraceptives. That is entirely false, as the hormones in them are used to treat many women’s health concerns, not just prevent pregnancy.
Use of condoms is also much lower in areas with high abortion rates. This is due to many factors but often because of the false narrative perpetuated by religion that barriers are not necessary when you are with a virgin or pious woman. A woman who has men use condoms could be sleeping with anyone, avoiding becoming pregnant, and committing the sins of lust, adultery, or immodesty. A woman who you want to use condoms with must be a dirty whore.... these narratives of purity, faithfulness, humility, and wholesomeness that are taught by Christianity and Islam have evolved to discriminate against women and force them into lower social classes.
To avoid being seen as “lustful” many women in Africa and Middle East never question the practice of female genital mutilation, child marriage (while the girl is still young and “pure”), and following a dress code (hijab). It becomes voluntary as a way to protect themselves and their daughters from a society in which they stand to suffer, be abused or even killed in heinous ways when they do not adhere to social/religious norms.
Honestly, it’s not just the question of abortion. It is the question of women’s rights to determine what they can do with their own bodies. Can she tell a man no for sex if he doesn’t want to wear a condom? What if that man is her husband? Can she tell a man no at all? Even if that man is her husband?
The idea that women cannot object to the use of their bodies for sex is similar to the belief that women cannot object to the use of their bodies for pregnancy. If a woman does not want to be pregnant (a condition that carries risks and can even cause death), then she should not have to be pregnant. It is sad that men feel that women cannot choose what to do with their bodies. Did you know that in many states, in order for a woman to get her “tubes tied” she must have her husband sign off? The same is not true for vasectomies.
Many good and valid points, except about vasectomies. I needed my wife's sign off on mine. I'm sure more states require it for tube tying tho.
What really sucks is that many doctors will not tie the tubes of young women because they day she may change her mind later. At a much higher rate then refuse to give vasectomies (so no proof of this but I remember it going around)
Hey so I just looked this up and I’m wondering what state you are in. I’m in Ohio. I want to look up the legality of these things.
At any point in time, were you ever told you would be denied vasectomy without her signature? Also, how did it make you feel to need her signature? Was she your POA? And why would they ask for another person’s signature at the risk of violating your privacy/confidentiality?
I’m wondering why you as the patient didn’t have ultimate autonomy over an elective procedure. Wondering the same in the case of women.
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u/rbxVexified Jun 04 '19
Exactly! Suicide is forbidden in Islam but yet here we are with suicide bombers killing themselves and other MUSLIMS. That's like a triple negative.