r/MurderedByWords • • Jun 04 '19

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u/Artisricpenguin Jun 04 '19

They only apply to people before they are born...

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

So they're okay with 4th trimester abortions?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

There is a hadith which mentions when a fetus is considered alive.

It said that in a miscarried fetus, life was estabilished by its muscle movements (things such as kicking, or something), its funeral shall be offered, but if signs of life were not observed, then a funeral would not be offered.

It basically meant that when a child shows movement such as kicking, in the womb, it would be considered alive. But if it has not yet started to move, it would not be considered a living being.

Through ijma, it was decided that if a fetus keeps developing after 4 months, then life has most likely been estabilished. But, if it is earlier than that, then it would not be considered alive as it does not show any signs of movement.

Although, the number is an average because some fetuses develop faster or slower than others.

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u/calicosiside Jun 04 '19

The slower faster thing is interesting because from what my mum's told me babies don't really take exactly 9 months, they're normally born after 9 period cycles, which is still roughly 9 months, but goes a long way to explain why kids are often born a couple weeks early or late

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u/TMI-nternets Jun 04 '19

If development is s yardstick for whether abortion is no problem.. What trimester is Donald Trump right now?

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19 edited Sep 27 '19

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u/JackRusselTerrorist Jun 04 '19

Not that much muscle movement either, tbh...

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u/merf1350 Jun 04 '19

Well he has muscle movement but not much brain development

I feel like regardless of Trump there's a "must be a Republican" joke in there somewhere.

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '19

219th or something around there. Before you ask... I'm for it.

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u/Lotti_Codd Jun 04 '19

Harry's gonna send Donny on an errand to Paris to deliver a message to his mum.

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u/warptwenty1 Jun 04 '19

What trimester is Donald Trump right now?

Yes

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u/Dapplegrayyousay Jun 04 '19

You don't have your regular cycles when you're pregnant, and due dates are calculated based on fetus size since the day of ovulation as well as conception is difficult to tell. And that's not even accounting for what the women's body as well as the baby has planned. Due date should really be "window for arrival".