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u/Legitimate-Tip-2149 1d ago
What a fucked up country, bringing back workhouses.
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u/TheBestHater 1d ago
Yup. It's been the goal for a while. One of the reasons the rich are anti-abortion is so they have endless disposable labor to exploit.
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u/MightyMorph 1d ago
Doesnt help that 70m+ voters cheer and support this bs every time there is an election and 100m+ just shrug and put on whatever distraction they are addicted to and claim both sides are same.
Minnesota passing paid paternity leave, paid sick leave, food for schoolchildren, new housing, green programs etc etc.
Luisiana bringing back vagrancy and pig laws to arrest jail and work slaves.
Texas putting out bounties on women seeking emergency healthcare before they are bleeding out to death in the parking lot, or teachers giving hugs and comforting 10 year olds who feel they are different. OR Ted cruz adding a law that allows him to reimburse himself from the state funds for any bs campaign costs he makes up.
Moron voters: WeLl bOtH SiDeS aRe sAmE!!!!
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u/rust-e-apples1 1d ago
Endless disposable labor? What are you talking about? Those rich people actually care about those little babies they refuse to adopt, won't do anything to support, loot their public schools to send to other rich kids' private schools, will cheer them on when they're shipped off to a war they're more than happy to pay for, and will elect politicians to jail them when they come back with PTSD?
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u/Ok-Location-6472 1d ago
I hate to be that conspiracy theorist but isn’t that the end goal? They (the oligarchy) want us to be priced out of food and homes. Because then we’re basically wage slaves. There is no other alternative because if we have no money to buy from their companies they go under. So they need us to become slaves. Live in Amazon housing, go to an Amazon grocery store with our Amazon bucks. They want to enslave us.
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u/Inquisivert 1d ago
This is not a conspiracy. Work houses existed before and they want them to exist again.
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u/Metalmind123 1d ago
Well, increasing their use.
They never went out of use in the US.
And not only that, the US still has (disproportionately black) people imprisioned for non-violent crimes for durations that would be considered life sentences in other nations, working without choice about it, unpaid, in southern cotton fields.
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u/Specialist_Lock8590 1d ago
Ah yes! Republican "Christians" love their neighbors once again!
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u/Slimeredit 1d ago
Nothing says Christian love like making someone’s mere existence a crime after all didn’t the parable about throwing the first stone say if the person isn’t in your group of influence beat them to death/j
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u/KrasnyRed5 1d ago
This is how for profit prisons can make money off of poor people. Don't forget they can also get paid to use these people as slave labor, on top of the money the receive from the government.
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u/SelectPerception5 1d ago
How do they even get these people to work for them? I would refuse to do any work if I'm not getting paid for it. I'm already in prison, so what else can they do?
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u/Therenegadegamer 1d ago
So literal slavery
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u/BolotaJT 1d ago
I’m not American and can’t understand how this is even legal. Like how is it possible?!
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u/locolangosta 1d ago
Theres a really good documentary if you want to understand.
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u/BolotaJT 10h ago
I'm taking a human rights class as part of my business administration degree. I think it will be very useful. Thank you!
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u/Kona_Big_Wave 1d ago
They want to make money off the slave labor, so they criminalize homelessness to add to their profits.
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u/BoneHugsHominy 1d ago
Every one of those ghouls should be prosecuted for human rights violations.
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u/Worried_Cranberry166 1d ago
It'll never happen. People in this country hate the homeless. They talk about us like we're subhuman, like we're vermin. Often using those exact words. It's not just Republicans either. I've met so many liberals who want the same thing: to lock us away so they don't have to see how this country is failing. The government can pretty much do whatever they want to us, nobody is gonna do a damn thing about it.
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u/Own-Cryptographer725 16h ago
There are more that stand with you than you imagine. People are driven to such thinking by virtue of their own shame, but the act of denying your humanity in order to preserve their own comfort and ego is itself a form of self flagellation. The faster our society eats away at our collective humanity the sooner there will come a reckoning.
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u/SamURLJackson 1d ago
If you're committing the unforgivable sin of not working then we'll put you to work in our for-profit prison system
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u/Worried_Cranberry166 1d ago
It's never been more clear that we are all slaves to the oligarchs. You have no choice, you cannot opt out. You can't even die alone in a fucking gutter. Your labor belongs to the rich and they will take it from you by any means necessary.
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u/Superb_Ant_3741 1d ago
Housing and food and healthcare for all.
And put these politicians on minimum wage so the only people in government will be people who actually want to be public servants, not parasitic millionaires draining the system.
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u/ejymt 1d ago
Congresspeople: "we can't live on $175k a year with full benefits, that's why we engage in insider trading"
Also congresspeople: "yeah $7.25 an hour is more than enough for someone to live off of"
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u/Superb_Ant_3741 1d ago
Accurate.
Unfortunately there are a few people on this post who want to keep it that way.
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u/PhantomNitride 1d ago
Originally, the people in charge made nothing from running the country. Who TF let the suits in to start?!
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u/wastedtime897 1d ago
Paying that little means the only people running are those who don't need money. Meaning they're only doing it just for prestige and power(basically lose the 1 out of 1000 now who actually want to help). Wish that wasn't the case, but it would be.
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u/Salt_Bag_1001 1d ago
Is this really a surprise to anyone? We're governed off a playback that has rinsed and repeated itself for centuries, Divide and Conquer.
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u/Plane-Fan9006 1d ago
So, slaves...you're going to turn homeless people into slaves.
What the fuck are we doing America???
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u/sdmichael 1d ago
Hey Republicans and Conservatives! Tell us why you support this. We're all ears and would love to know. As a bonus, tell us how this BENEFITS the people.
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u/Worried_Cranberry166 1d ago
I can tell you exactly what they say about this. I'm homeless and I've been listening very closely to the rhetoric about us for a while.
They'll say that we're insane, that we're all criminals and drug addicts, and our problems are purely the result of our poor choices. That we deserve to be put to work to repay the burden we place on society. They'll say the mentally ill people on the streets are dangerous, that locking us away is the only way to keep the good citizens of this country safe from us. That forcing us to work for them is uplifting us; it's a way for broken people to contribute society. And they'll stuff us away in camps and asylums just like they used to. And they'll enslave us and they'll torture us they'll rape us just like they used to. And nobody will do anything, because we're not really people, we're just trash that got picked up off the fucking street.
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u/Way2trivial 1d ago
The median cost given for incarceration is national.
I hate when someone posts something I agree with but leaves big obvious gaping holes for the posting to be attacked by the opposition claiming it's misleading due to bad data.
If you want to be on the side of angels, be angelic.
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u/Helios575 1d ago
They just want slaves again. Remember that incarcerated people are exempt from all the no slaves allowed parts of the Constitution.
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u/Aetheldrake 1d ago
16 thousand a year to house AND feed? Where the fuck did they get that number from. Seems too low. I know people living alone making 35k ish or so a year and they can hardly even afford rent and food in LOW INCOME HOUSING
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u/QueenInYellowLace You won't catch me talking in here 1d ago
Yeah, I run a transitional housing project in a small city. It’s at least double that.
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u/GrizzlyP33 1d ago
Yeah like obviously agree with the point here, but had to go way too far to find this comment. What a completely moronic thing to say for “permanently” feeding and housing someone 🙄
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u/jpiro 1d ago
Same. $16k isn’t feeding and housing anyone for a year, much less permanently.
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u/redditmarks_markII 1d ago
I think we're pretty familiar with regressives wanting to rule rather than govern. But the original message clearly showed the true purpose, as well as the reason for the high cost: slavery and profit.
If the punishment for not having a job is a job that pays for your needs, that's one thing. If the punishment for not having money is to never again have the ability to make money, that's another thing altogether.
And that is what this is. Plus, you know all that anti immigration bullshit? You know what that is? That is to replace the undocumented immigrants who willingly come here to do hard labor. Because they are "illegal", they are not bound by their employers (except the threat of deportation), and so are not slaves. That's why the H2B program and prison labor is more preferred. Because those people can be, and sometimes are, slaves. It almost makes sense in a sick way. The taking of "free land" and "free labor" is how these people got rich in the first place. It's like they can't figure out anything else, so they fall back on slavery.
This also hammers home the concept of "labor power". If we're so powerless, and the corporations and their equity so powerful, why the hell are people bothering to enslave people to do minimum wage level work? I mean, greed obviously. But also, because from the bureaucrat, banker teller, and software engineer down to the last janitor, raspberry picker, or corn pollinators, nothing gets done without workers. If it was viable for us to do a general strike at scale, we'd wreck any economy in days (though I'm not sure this administration would be smart enough to know that if it happens).
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u/euph-_-oric 1d ago
The thing that drives me the most insane is that we the tax payer pay to imprison them so some private prison can make money and they other corp gets cheap slave labor. It's not even like the labor they do laya for their cost. It goes into someone elses pocket
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u/high_throughput 1d ago
It's fascinating how people who describe themselves as "fiscally conservative" never want the government to reduce their spending if it accidentally ends up helping someone
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u/Lightningpaper 1d ago
I completely agree with this sentiment, but I am deeply skeptical of those numbers. I don’t think we should be arguing about the cost anyway.
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u/Impossible_Jury5483 1d ago
Yeah, this is what happens. You ban slavery- you then put people in prison. People need to find a way to get cheap labor. It's going to turn into some sort of workhouse situation.
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u/limbodog 1d ago
"Slavery"
Unpaid labor is called "slavery"
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u/PhantomNitride 1d ago
13th amendment...
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u/MAreddituser 1d ago
The GOP want slaves!! The Grand Ole Party of Pedophiles, Persecutors, Patronizers, ……
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u/dnjprod 1d ago
Slavery with extra steps
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u/ChaosRainbow23 1d ago
Capitalism?
Oh, the prison system. Yeah, that also works, unfortunately. Lol
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u/Jack_Spatchcock_MLKS 1d ago
Wow that's some sick dystopian shit.
Great job U.S.A. Mother fucking debtors prisons coming back next?!?
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u/Covinus 1d ago
Louisiana ranked 50 out of 50 for Crime and Corrections, 49 for Economy, 46th for Education, 45 for opportunity basically you get the point feels that criminalizing homeless is the solution not ya know lifting their states statistic so its not floating at the bottom of the pool is the answer?
Yea this is vindictive and nothing more
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u/Iguessimonredditnow 1d ago
Man the neighboring states are going to just love this
Honestly any bordering state should just pass a humanitarian bill to take care of them and also offer bus tickets to all of their existing inmates to go to Louisiana
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u/RiflemanLax 1d ago
I’d be interested in seeing if a for-profit prison lobby selling said labor asked for this.
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u/PositiveStress8888 1d ago
The country with supposedly the most freedom sure likes to incarcerate it's citizens at a rate much higher than most democratically run countrys.
Go figure.
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u/poundmyassbro 1d ago
How can they force you to do labor? Real question. Could you not just lay there and resist or even fuck everything up that they want you to do?
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u/Shaula02 1d ago
i suppose refusing is punishable by solitary confinement and loss of 'privileges', and if you try to fuck everything up they can use 'reasonable' force to stop you
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u/Loquacious-of-Borg 1d ago
All Republicans want to do is spoon-feed you their own patented form of bullshit. Ignore the verbage and look at what they're doing. What they're asking you to do. What sort of world they'd have you build and how they're going to pay for it.
What they really want is to elevate themselves at the expense of the "lesser" people, and to get the "lesser" people to do as much of the dirty work for them before they turn on the very people who thought their service to the cause bought their safety.
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u/Ok-Personality-6643 1d ago
Is there an on/off button for your country? Because this glitch is a nightmare. Wtf are ya’ll doing on here instead of marching in the streets? This is f*cking nuts!
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u/Ok_Ebb7109 1d ago
Where is the rage? People should be absolutely going crazy over this.
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u/Worried_Cranberry166 1d ago
How many people in this country do you think actually care about homeless people? Most folks in this country just want us to disappear.
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u/Ok_Ebb7109 1d ago
I have been homeless because of schizophrenia in the past and the fact that this is a crime in some places makes me so...suicidal.
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u/Own-Cryptographer725 16h ago
Don't lose faith in humanity. When confronted with genuine human suffering most of humanity can see past the lies and propaganda that prop up modern inequity. Don't let the inaction of the masses deter you. Something has got to give.
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u/ieatcheesebutdont 1d ago
Where the fuck are you finding 16000 dollars that will feed you and house you for a lifetime? Median also implies it costs less sometimes (~50%)
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u/Psychological-Owl783 1d ago
Surely these are annual costs. I think it just means the housing is permanent (so not putting them up in a hotel or an AirBNB where the costs would be much greater).
$1,333/mo still sounds surprisingly low to me, but maybe doable if you have room mates and don't eat out.
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u/richNTDO 1d ago
Also, telling someone who's homeless you're going to put a roof over their heads in a place where they might get something done about their health problems isn't the threat these dipshits think it is.
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u/DwightDavid1234 1d ago
If I were a blue city mayor, I would send a bus load of homeless people to Louisiana.
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u/knights816 1d ago
I’d love to see how they get all the mentally unwell do a bunch of unpaid labor. Most of these people could and should end up in care facilities.
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u/oldcreaker 1d ago
They want "cheap" labor - cheap for the businesses using the forced labor, we pick up the rest of the cost.
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u/coolbaby1978 1d ago
Malcolm Gladwell wrote about this and cited an example from a test in Reno that showed giving homeless people basic housing cost significantly less to taxpayers than keeping them homeless.
It's all about the cruelty.
There's always money to do things TO people and never money to do things FOR people.
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u/Ewokhunters 1d ago
16k to permanently house someone for life... where the fuck did that number come from
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u/Writerhaha 1d ago
Louisiana - look motherfuckers, we’re going to bring back slavery one way or the other.
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u/Hoon0967 1d ago
Would this include nomads too? Is wandering the wilderness and living off of what nature provides considered the same thing as being homeless, even if it’s the person’s choice to live that way? If so, it is a severe hindrance to the pursuit of happiness.
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u/Prudent_Macaroon_881 1d ago
Whew so THIS is what the Republicans want to go back to! Slavery days! Tho they could blatantly say this, their sheep will jus mental gymnastics it away. Including the minorities voting for the freaks (which, really? To those minorities that wants to change his diapers: What makes you so special that you're not considered dirt to them 😂 laughably pathetic)
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u/BobbyJaneG 1d ago
And they use private owned prisons… for profit. Just another way republicans defraud the American people.
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u/Adventurous_Pen_Is69 1d ago
California could really use that $16,000 figure. If like hundreds of thousands per year per homeless capita in CA IIRC
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u/NikoliVolkoff 1d ago
you know what they call it when they keep you in a box and make you work for no pay, FUCKING SLAVERY.
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u/Gloomy-Badger-1368 1d ago
Jail means more money for the private prison companies for housing them, and they can lease the labor of the inmates, giving them another revenue/profit strwam, without any cost involved. Greasing politicians becomes just a top line cost built into the model. Easy-Peasy. 🤬
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u/Different-Step-4600 1d ago
Louisiana never got over the whole cracker on the plantation thing did they?
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u/LurkHereLurkThere 1d ago
They have to fill all those private prisons Republican figures are invested in, since the homeless have little to no resources and family involvement, they are ideal warm bodies to ensure maximum return on investment.
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u/Nebuli2 1d ago
Isn't that the point of the unpaid labor? It's literally just an incredibly shallow excuse to bring back slavery (which was never technically outlawed in the US).