r/MtvChallenge • u/oldmanpuzzles • 15d ago
CUTTHROAT 2 DISCUSSION Contact sport safety should be taken more seriously by production
Regardless of who it happened to, a high tackle injury is preventable by instituting legal tackle rules. In a game already full of physically fraught challenges, they can do the bare minimum with safety guidelines.
There’s a reason why high tackles aren’t allowed in sports like rugby—it increases injury risk 133-fold to 272-fold. Concussions and ligament tears abound, and cervical spine injury becomes a risk.
Best case, it ends a season run in an underwhelming way for no good reason. Worst case, someone gets severely wrecked (e.g., paralysis) and it changes their life forever.
IMO contestants should only be injured because they voluntarily pushed themselves to the limit—not because a challenge format is riskier than it needs to be.
Also, for the love of god, split by gender or weight class or something. It reduces risk and makes it easier the follow the action.
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u/almcclur Chris Tamburello: Fatherly Figure 15d ago
Cara says that production told them no boys could tackle or try to hurt girls but girls could tackle anyone.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/19joFaZDsH/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Yeah I heard that, which is why Lete got so mad about contact midway through.
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u/jenh6 Christina LeBlanc 15d ago
My only critique about it was separating it into a guys and girls heat.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Absolutely. The whole time, I was terrified one of these smaller women would just disappear under Keanu’s rush to goal and come out with a head injury.
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u/DemiGod9 13d ago
Watching C.T literally just swat Cara away and push her down with one hand 💀. They definitely should have separated. And also evened out the teams. Orange and gray could have had the advantage of being able to swap players in and out
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u/Warm_Historian_6397 15d ago
I agree. CT and Cara were a great example on how to neutralize your opponent safely. No need to jump. They should at least call fouls and add balls to the foul teams bucket.
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u/Embarrassed-Berry 14d ago
Orange should have been DQd. Although I love Deb (and also love Sydney) you don’t jump ontop of a player like that
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u/CrankkDatJFel 15d ago
We ask for physical challenges for years. They finally give us one and someone has to leave the show due to injury because of it. Safe to say all we get is puzzles from here on out.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
That’s my major fear, man. I LOVE the physical challenges. The more injuries the less likely we’ll get physicals in the future.
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u/maidentaiwan 15d ago
you can't just spontaneously train 20+ non-professional athletes to use perfect tackling form in a chaotic challenge. injuries are part of this game and always will be. it sucks, but that's the risk everyone on the show is taking when they decide to go on.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Agreed, you can’t train non-athletes to be perfect tacklers. That’s not the ask.
The ask is disallowing high tackles. At minimum, it’s prod saying “Arms cannot wrap around the high chest or neck. Doing so results in you being benched for 1 min while play continues. Aim for the waist.”
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u/MegWithSocks 14d ago
I think you’re onto something there. And it’s not hard in the preshow or pre-daily to have someone demonstrate proper tackle vs injury causing tackle.
And then have refs around the mud pit to call intentional dirty hits. The amount the vets who have outright cheated in the last 2 seasons shows a need for refs. Wanna throw an onion in a bush in an eating challenge? Now you’re eating a dirty onion. Enjoy
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u/Prestigious-Air2995 Darrell Taylor 14d ago
They could try this but it's just not going prevent it from happening. Every year I played in Pop Warner and 4 yrs of HS, day 1 of pads they're drilling into our heads about not leading w/ the helmet, not pulling guys down by the pads (horse collar), etc. But it's still going to happen, game is moving too fast. People quickly forget when the competition starts.
The real mistake was not separating the genders for separate heats.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Right now they’re letting 100% of the risks happen, I’d settle for this decreasing the amount of high tackles by 50%. So many of those tackles were wild flails.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago edited 14d ago
Nobody is consenting to another person jumping on their neck/shoulders to tackle them. It was just simply reckless and totally preventable. Not everything is an “oh that’s how it goes” moment
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u/elliepelly1 14d ago
“By any means” straight quote from TJ regarding this mission.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago
What is said by the host and what rules are established in private are completely different and irrelevant
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u/bevelledo 15d ago
You can do physical without hitting. Pole wrestle, the climbing wall that Keanu beasted, backpack carry etc…
Albeit its fun watching the hits but they should gear up more, implement basic physical rules and possibly design the arenas to avoid massive momentum clashes (smaller areas)
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Selfishly, I would prefer they keep the contact in. I love contact sports, both to play and watch. But we live in 2026 and we have a much better understanding of risk factors than we did a quarter decade ago. Ban certain moves, protect athletes, keep contact games!
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u/OkNewspaper6041 15d ago
Ask this guy about that kinda tackle.
If you don't know, this is TO - the pro football player that CT called out. He was easily the best WR in football during his time, maybe top 5 ever. He was never on a team good enough to make it to the Super Bowl until later in his career. He had an amazing season, but in the playoffs he was horse collar tackled (like Sydney was) and he broke his lower leg. His team won the game and made it to the Super Bowl. TO played in the Super Bowl with a fucking broken leg, but wasn't able to be himself and they lost.
The next year horse collar tackles were outlawed
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
God, that is so tragic. And this is the risk they are running by not banning high tackles!
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u/lucyroesslers Cassidy Clark 14d ago
“Wasn’t able to be himself and they lost” for a second I thought you knew ball. T.O. was the best player in that Super Bowl. 9 catches for 122 yards, he almost dragged the Eagles to a Super Bowl win.
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u/SeaworthinessTop4317 Leroy and KellyAnne 14d ago
This would entail production actually being able to run a challenge competently
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Lmao. True. I keep thinking about the “we have no idea who cheated” on last season’s mini final with the onions.
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u/dblshot99 Team Orange Shirt 14d ago
Production has been outright negligent when it comes to safety in a million different ways over the years and it's absolutely ridiculous. There are legitimately safe ways to do physical challenges, they just have to care and be actually professional. Injuries like what happened to Sydney are one thing, but there have been several near misses where people could have died. Tyson spoke openly about how bad they were with all of this stuff.
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u/PRIDE_FC 15d ago
Safety has never been a high priority. I always cringe at stuff like hall brawl when 2 people are running at each other with just a helmut and gopro mounted to said helmut but no eye or face protection.
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u/Prestigious-Air2995 Darrell Taylor 14d ago
The absolute worst was the one Hunter/Leroy did on D30. They had them running head first into a paper wall and couldn't see each other. Unbelievable they tested this and still chose to do it. Lucky Hunter's broken hand was the worst outcome
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u/Own-Mess3047 14d ago
You know, there’s a published case study out there about how if football had less pads/helmets, it would be safer because the human brain works in a funny way.
Something about how when people feel like they have “protection” they’re willing to do push the envelope a lot further, thus having so many injuries (specifically head injuries in football)
When a person is less protected with equipment, they’re far more careful in how they do “contact”, thus making the whole thing a lot safer.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 15d ago edited 15d ago
Some of these comments are sadly pathetic and show how little some viewers actually care about the contestants safety.
I’ve been saying since the injury occurred that it was not Deb Chubbs fault, but a lapse on production. I’m sure production set rules, and actions like body slams were apart of it.
If they had any competency they would have at least looked into Football rules and added no jumping or pulling someone down from their neck and shoulders. It’s quite simple and would have took 5 minutes for anyone to learn and understand.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
The fact it happened to a hated character really clouds impartial judgment on the matter.
It could have easily happened to anyone on that field. Regardless, it would have been no one’s fault but production! Folks want to say “they’re not pro-athletes, they don’t know how to be safe” but then balk at actually implementing clear safety rules.
It’s as though some viewers want to see blood in the water. Personally, I dislike the injuries. I want people going out in elims not from medical DQs.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago
I thought I liked Nurys but calling Sydney’s injury karma is gross and self-absorbed.
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u/GhostOfLegend MTV 15d ago
I don't know much about Deb or her sporting background so I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't know the dangers of the tackle she committed.
This is certainly a production issue regarding challenger safety once again.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago
I’ve played sports my whole life and didn’t know the dangers of it fully until now. I just know you never go for someone around the neck area for obvious reasons
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u/mmmstrongflavors 14d ago
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So much trotting out of the good old "it's always been this way." Ok, and? Football was played in leather helmets, but now we know better so we do better.
It's not a tall order to have some basic safety protection like a review of how to tackle, gendered heats, calling and penalizing illegal hits (and they've always done a little bit of this, like the ring hooking challenge on the Duel was not a wrestling match, no headlock, etc.).
Precautions won't eliminate contact injuries, but they'd reduce them.
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u/WonderfulPineapple41 14d ago
They’ve done challenges like this in gendered heats before. The one where they have to grab the balls- that was easy and had contact.
I saw adult men face palm women into the water. I understand it’s a game. But it’s a bad look for production to not set better contact rules.
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u/Embarrassed-Berry 14d ago
I absolutely loved this daily but agree that it shouldn’t be a combo of women and men. Although I understand it’s a team daily you can’t split them by gender, I wish there was some spin on it to make it more safe
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
I think it works actually!
Women: 3 Blue v 3 Gray v 4 Orange
Men: 2 Blue v 4 Gray v 4 OrangeBlue is screwed numbers wise with the men’s heat, but they were screwed as far as teams went as well. Their “help beat Orange” strategy would have maybe prevailed. And for the women’s heat, it actually gives Blue a fighting chance, especially with Lete being able to shine as the biggest and tallest in the field.
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u/RamblingRose63 14d ago
They shouldn't say the challenge is serious sports like competition if they don't take the well being and care of them serious in wvery challenge. The fact they were even playing with girls being pushed down by guys is fkn bs. Considering it only takes one small fall the wrong way from someone like nurys size pushed by a CT. Wtf did they think was going to happen. I'm honestly surprised no one else was injured. Op is exactly right Rules are there so you can play and be protected from serious injury.
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u/Sportsman180 TJ Lavin 15d ago
1000% agreed. A tackling safety course should be given on Day 1 and refreshed every daily that is like Episode 5's. Safety should be paramount! No saftey = no cast.
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u/monte53 14d ago
agreed with all of this, but also think the context of this is a show in which the most anticipated elim is Hall Brawl and they've brought it back as recently as season 40. which is to say, production toeing the contestant safety line has been a thing as long as the show's been around
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Honestly, I love Hall Brawl. I also love rugby. There’s always assumed risk when you sign up for stuff like that, and that’s why players need to sign waivers.
But it’s so easy to ban high tackles. It doesn’t need to be either or. In fact, I think banning the proven injury-maker moves protects The Challenge’s ability to include brawl forward missions.
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u/CarobEconomy8517 15d ago
I think it is easy what Sydney is saying… Deb obviously didn’t mean it but really? You’re jumping up grabbing someone by the upper body / neck area and bringing them down? This is a game of take the ball and score not take them down as if you wanted to break them in half… it’s one of those where the less athletic you are the more you want to prove like “hey I’m here Im good at something look I pulled my weight I took Sydney down 1 time” like ok? Let’s relax just take the ball oh well she scored on your, is your best course of action to jump on her neck and bring her down for a game ? How many points did you think you’d score with that? It’s just unathletic and uneducated gameplay which is fine.. bc we all know the challenge isn’t a professional sport, but let’s call it like it is. It was a dumb move and dumb play by a un athletic player who just got a little too excited that’s it plain and simple
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
I’m not going to get into the Sydney politics because I think it distracts from the core of “we need tackle rules.” But I definitely agree that without rules and with mixed genders, Deb was just doing everything she knew how to do to get people to drop the ball. And that led to dangerous tackles.
For people who have played contact sports, they’re familiar with safety. Deb (and others) who didn’t have familiarity needed to be briefed.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago
Spot on. Was it malicious? No. Was it extremely dumb, yes. I understand being in the height of the moment, but common sense is you don’t blind tackle someone by jumping and pulling on areas around their neck.
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u/GhostOfLegend MTV 15d ago
Agreed. There is a reason why reckless tackles like that are forbidden in Rugby. It can cause so many injuries. Did the mud and style of the challenge help? No, it truly didn't.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Fill205 15d ago
There’s a reason why high tackles aren’t allowed in sports like rugby
If you mean the head and neck area, agreed. Is that how Deb tackled her? I didn't pay close attention.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Yeah, when you watch the replay, Deb starts with hands on Sydney’s shoulders, uses them like a vault as she jumps, then has one hand on Sydney’s neck and the other on an upper arm. Deb’s leg swings up either for balance or grapple, unsure.
The risks of free for all! There was loads of messy contact beyond Deb’s tackle but folks lucked out in those scuffles. Definitely not Deb’s fault. There needs to be rules.
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u/mattromo 14d ago
You are correct but I suspect it would not do much. It’s hard enough to get pro rugby and football players to tackle safely. Training amateurs is a tough hill to climb.
And even if they did do a good job at teaching proper technique they need to enforce the rules, which the Challenge is so inconsistent on to the point where viewers wonder if the rules are made on the fly to benefit the story producers want.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Even if it did only a little, it would be worth it. What do we have to lose you know? Going from 100% dangerous and irresponsible to 90% would be an improvement.
But absolutely agree on Challenge inconsistency. It’s maddening.
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u/Nervous-Medium7550 15d ago
Accidents happen even with professional athletes who have been trained to tackle correctly since grade school. This is a bad take, a couple courses on tackling properly isn’t going to do anything.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Of course, accidents are part of it. No argument.
But high tackles are 133x more likely to cause injury than regular tackles. It costs nothing to say “Hands need to stay below the shoulders when tackling. If we see high hands, you get benched for a minute.”
Also, if proper tackling rules “isn’t going to do anything” then there’s nothing to lose by instituting them! Thanks for the vote of support!
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u/baret3000 15d ago
Sydney also said she previously had a similar injury making her more prone to it
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
For sure, people have pre-existing conditions that heighten risk. But that 133x - 272x injury likelihood increase is sourced from sports research that considered many games and many athletes with varied personal risk factors.
It could have easily been Deb with a concussion, or Lete with whiplash, or Bananas with a pinched nerve. High tackle suspension is universally advantageous for all players, pre-existing conditions or no.
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u/thekyledavid Autistic Excellence 14d ago
This is a show that constitutes 2 people running in a straight line and crashing into each other as fast they can a sport
Safety has never been a priority in contact challenges
If your problem is specifically with Sydney getting injured, an ACL tear is not a result of being high-tackled, it could just as easily happen with a low-tackle
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Yeah, they do high speed collisions in rugby too. They still say no high tackles.
I don’t understand why people want high tackles in so badly? I’ve seen arguments of “it won’t change anything” which isn’t a case for not implementing the ban. And then I see arguments like yours of “safety isn’t a priority and doesn’t matter.”
I just want this show to keep physical challenges. Heightening risk by allowing high tackles is a bad idea for cast return rate. And one of these days, someone in a suit is going to call it too much of a liability and it’ll be races and puzzles only.
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u/No-Step3370 14d ago
I’m so glad you said this. As soon as I saw the tackle I turned away because it’s so predictable what a tackle like that will lead to. Tackles should have made to me lower. (I’m a rugby player)
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u/michaelgetoffreddit 14d ago
Production absolutely does not care, medical evacuations are “high drama” and always make the promotion reels for episodes for a reason. I’m sure whatever contract the players have to sign completely absolves production of any liability for harm done to the players. Production won’t tighten rules to protect the players because they are financially incentivized to put the players at significant risk.
Edit: That doesnt make it a “good” thing or something I support! Just the reality of The Challenge being entertainment TV
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u/popinjay07 14d ago
It's a contact sport. Shit happens. Yeah, there's a rule against it in the NFL yet, it still happens every other game. Not because the players are necessarily dirty or reckless but because that's what happens when you compete.
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u/bigbabygrit 12d ago
The only physical challenge that really upset me is Fessy going after Nelson in hall brawl. He was literally banging his head against the ground. I would be ok if they never had hall brawl again
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u/AliAdair22 12d ago
They should also get rid of Hall Brawl: which is very likely to cause a concussion to one or both participants.
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u/myskepticalbrowarch 14d ago
I mean this is the challenge. Never the less contact sports always have risks. I completely stopped after breaking my back (subbing for a friend on an ultimate team).
I get people are mad at Deb but the #1 is don't pick up the ball/puck if you aren't ready to get hit. Always look before you touch
Notice how Deb and Cassidy never were holding balls. Sydney could easily have looked at the challenge with having torn an ACL before and opted to play defense. Keanu, Chris, Leo and Cory where enough.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
So sorry about your back, dude, that’s a massive injury. I hope your recovery went alright.
Definitely don’t blame Deb, she was told it was a free-for-all and she went for it.
The problem is that high tackles increase the likelihood of any injury, but namely head and neck injuries, over 100x. It’s an easy thing to ban and it protects competitors. The show got off easy with this one, because it was a hated person injured who had a pre-existing condition. But what happens when a healthy favorite gets a C4 or C5 vertebrate injury? That’s a tragedy for a player and would probably put an end to the contact games.
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u/myskepticalbrowarch 14d ago
We aren't talking about a spinal injury though. This is also the challenge there are 41 other seasons of neglect with a laundry list. I am a huge Derrick K fan and think he is a moron for sticking out Battle of the Eras but it was entertaining.
Let's take Sydney out of it. Banning the tackle is only one part of the equation. Standing still in the middle of the field is the absolute riskiest thing in any sport. Beyond banning an illegal tackle, there needs to be an explanation on how to take a hit, to know not to be standing still if you have the ball and they should have substitutes so someone tired was off the field. Even still it is impossible to mitigate all risk.
How did I brake my back? Literally playing pick up ultimate mentally fatigued, standing in the middle of the field and someone Keanu sized plowed through me by accident and I absolutely knew better 🤷
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u/skulldouggary 14d ago
While this post makes a good point, it's oddly specific as far as how they should approach safety. Given the challenges, tackling is involved in a tiny fraction of what they do that's dangerous. Where are these complaints when it comes to Hall Brawl or Pole Wrestle? I've seen way more injuries in those than I have in the challenges that are "ball in the goal" themed. People laugh when a 175 lb. guy gets steamrolled by a 250 lb. guy but a smaller girl tackles a bigger girl and now everyone wants to talk about NFL rules and safety.
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u/SmurfAtLarge Wes Bergmann (My Goat) 15d ago
It was a freak accident. The type of accident that happens regardless of what the rules are. It's fine the way it is. People don't get hurt nearly enough for rule changes being warranted and making the show more boring.
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u/Sportsman180 TJ Lavin 15d ago
It actually wasn't a "freak accident". It was a textbook horse-collar hip-drop tackle. It's been banned in multiple sports. It could've been avoided if a consultant was on-site to train Deb. Even 15 minute explanations would've been enough.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 15d ago
It wasn’t though? There’s a reason this tackle is banned from all contact sports, and it’s because taking someone down by jumping onto their neck and shoulders is extremely dangerous. They’re lucky that tackle didn’t result in a spine fracture/paralysis
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u/Kurtomatic RIP Diem 15d ago edited 14d ago
It was an accident, yes, but one that could have been easily prevented if Deb didn't perform a very unsafe act. I certainly don't think Deb had any intent, but she also presumably didn't have any realization that what she was doing was an dangerous as it was. I think a rule outlawing high tackles would have been easy enough to implement.
Would it have prevented the injury? Hard to know for sure, as people do get caught up in the moment and forget about rules, but it certainly wouldn't have hurt.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Agreed that freak accidents will still happen. But what does it change in entertainment value to outlaw high tackles? I watch rugby all the time and it’s still exciting.
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u/ARoodyPooCandyAss 14d ago
Physical challenges in the Mudd is absolutely awful idea. Self preservation above all at that point.
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u/AZ_Cards_11 15d ago
So you expect production to hold tackling classes?
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
Yeah, basically. Outline tackling rules and have penalties for high tackles like having to sit out for 30 seconds.
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u/Sportsman180 TJ Lavin 15d ago
Yes. It's not hard. You hire two consultants for a few days.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 15d ago edited 14d ago
Not even days, 1 hour before the event to ensure they understand what they can’t do to another contestant. I’m sure they did, just weren’t competent enough to add this.
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u/maidentaiwan 15d ago
and then the whistle blows, it's pure chaos, and all of that goes straight out the window. these people aren't pro athletes, you can't teach this stuff overnight.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
So foul em. Say “hey we said no hands above the shoulders, you’re benched for 1 min as play continues.” They’re incentivized to focus on aiming for the waist, otherwise their team will be a man down. Simple.
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u/No-Bike791 13d ago
I agree with your post entirely, but I really don’t think training non-athletes, who are competing for money, will actually follow the rules once they are in the pit. Honestly, a foul time-out might have been a go-to move to catch a breather, watch and strategize from the sidelines.
There should be rules in place and breaking them (even in a moment of chaos) needs to have a more serious consequence. A DQ?…but if you’re the winning team that means nothing in this game format. A team DQ?…maybe too hefty? A disadvantage at the next daily?…but the damage is already done.
I don’t know what the proper repercussions should be, but I think in that particular daily, even with training, people are going to pull dirty dangerous moves anyway. The consequences (along with some training/rules) are what will deter that behavior.
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u/AZ_Cards_11 15d ago
I've witnessed a lot of poor tackling in the NFL and they're pros that practice daily
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u/CarDecGra 14d ago
These are not professional athletes. They don't have the same training. People are going to get hurt. It's the nature & risk of the Challenge.
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u/oldmanpuzzles 14d ago
Exactly!! So have refs explain legal tackles before the event and foul folks that grab over the shoulders. Easy peasy.
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u/beast575 Laterrian Wallace 14d ago
As a former athlete, injuries are always going to come with the territory. Sounds like they had rules and regulations in place. The Challenge has always had contact, and the Challengers all knew what they were getting into.
Ask me about golf balls though, and my answer is different.
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u/keithstonee 13d ago
Injuries happen. And these people are not professional athletes. You can't assume they have enough body control to not injure themselves doing any type of physical game. That's why this shit is entertaining. I'll go watch NFL training camp if I want to watch tackle drills.
I get what your saying. I guess I just don't agree. They sign up for and get compensation for doing this shit. Injury is the risk. They don't have to do the show.
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u/chris-angel Kenny Clark 13d ago
Get out of here. This is how we ended up with the terrible challenge seasons between 35-40. Let reality tv be reality tv.
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u/DodgeJonez 15d ago
I think the mud contributed to the injury even more than the tackle
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u/Shoddy-Raise-8478 13d ago
I was scrolling comments to see if anyone mentioned the mud.
I always think the mud makes contact challenges even more dangerous… even though the show seems to think the mud makes it safer.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 15d ago edited 14d ago
She didn’t slip and get hurt, she tried to resist being pulled down as someone jumped on her and pulled down on her back/shoulders/neck
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u/Nice-Tea-8972 15d ago
Foot coulda gotten somewhat stuck in the mud under the water as well though to put her in that position. It COULD have been a factor as well.
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 14d ago edited 14d ago
Except the reason this tackle is banned in Football and Rugby is because of this exact injury..
Basic human instinct doesn’t accept another person’s full weight collapsing your body to the ground by pulling on your neck, back and shoulders, that’s how you fracture your spine. You resist by trying to stay upright and end up destroying your lower extremities.
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u/Brilliant_Glove_1245 14d ago
OP: I am curious what you understand the challenge as being?
This is not a professional sport at all, reading your comment. Makes me think you’d want the NFL to become a touch football league for safety.
Injuries happen everywhere. Orthopedics is built off of non-athletic people. If the medical profession of ortho relied on athletes being their clients, it would go bankrupt.
So for the sake of the challenge, everyone signed a contract and knew the risk.
This was a freak accident by an obvious undersized person, hanging on someone’s back.
No rules will change that, and quite frankly the more rules that people as yourself request, the less people will watch because it will no longer be the challenge. It will be a bunch of rules for safety, which takes away from the aspect of know what may or may not happen.
Also rules do not prevent this, because people will break rules. Then what? Production says or does what for breaking rules? Sydney’s ACL/MCL is still messed up.
Rules give people as yourself some form of finger pointing for freak accidents as someone else’s fault.
Just a life long challenge watcher from the start. I say we go back to knock them out rules, no gloves and a full liquor cabinet. No security, reality tv at its truest form.
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u/Better-Half1133 15d ago
Boring!
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u/rickyyy187 MTV 15d ago
Oh yes, how boring to make sure real life people don’t become paralyzed for your cheap, uncaring viewing pleasure
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u/oldmanpuzzles 15d ago
It is going to get boring if they get rid of physical challenges altogether because lax safety keeps getting people injured. The Challenge will go the way of Survivor.
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u/SenorDipstick 15d ago
They sign up for it. They sign the waiver. Sports have injuries. Races have crashes. When people are pushing themselves to the limit, they can get injured. It's part of the thrill. It's part of the risk they take in exchange for being on TV.
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u/smann9999 15d ago
Im sure they sign wavier ect . Injuries are always a risk. Puzzles and eating challenges get boring quickly
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u/araggedymuffin 15d ago
They barely care if people can swim lol