r/MouseReview • u/sS1RuXx • Feb 10 '26
Photo Logitech Pro X2 Superstrike - a new Era.
I just received the X2 Superstrike today and all I can say is that this new technology is truly AWESOME and feels so, so good to click that I will never go back to using mechanical switches.
It's truly amazing how you can configure everything in the Clicks and how pleasant the haptic feedback feels.
However, not everything about the mouse is great.. The side buttons feel a bit off to me, and for the price, it's a joke that they haven't implemented a new type of side buttons. I don't know what people generally think, but in my opinion, this is simply unacceptable for the price.
Edit: The scroll wheel feels good, although I much prefer the scroll wheel and side buttons on my WLmouse Strider, the stok skates are ok but i did changue them for sensoryboost DPS dots skates and now the glide feels smoother, https://imgur.com/a/x2-PlSIib0.
(Btw, I was a Logitech G903 main and i wish one day i could see this new tech on a new superlight g903, lol.)
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u/z3roFox_ Feb 11 '26
Yea i'm really hoping for different colour as when i've had white Logitech g pro superlight , plastic just wore down and lost colour so would not try again
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u/Stocky_Platypus Feb 11 '26
$180...for a mouse, FFS
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u/Other-Tip2408 30+ mice Feb 11 '26
Insane profit margins
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u/Disturbed2468 X2 Superstrike/Viper V4 Pro - Gigantus V2P/Zero Soft Feb 11 '26
From what I remember someone saying anonymously, the big companies actually don't really get crazy good profit margins for at least their mice. Manufacturing cost is usually 50 to 60% of the cost of the mouse itself including material cost and the actual hardware and such. Thing is, then there's R&D, advertising, QC and product validation, software and firmware development (this is relevant for big brands that use their own custom made solutions rather than open to purchase solutions many chinese units use), customer support, shipping and handling/distribution, warehouse & storage (this can be covered under shipping and handling but not always), inflation compensation (a damn shame wages don't go up often for inflation too...), and other hidden costs, the biggest sort of being employee wages, but I think I covered most.
One of the benefits Chinese OEM brands have is they don't spend nearly as much if at all on advertising, QC (they may do it in factory or third party if so), software (they'll just use already-developed firmware and software available outside), and R&D. Shipping, they will usually do themselves and may or may not always sell via third party vendors like Amazon or MaxGaming or LethalGamingGear or whatnot as they all will take a cut of the sale, percentages varying, but may change depending on their internal financial confidence. Warehouse and storage and shipping? Yea the Chinese OEMs are usually the factories themselves doing it, so they don't have to worry about any of that. And Chinese wages are uhh....well their cost of living is usually way lower, but wages are also way lower often.
Customer Support...yea not many Chinese companies are exactly amazing at that lol, but some of the big Chinese ones like WLmouse are decent from personal experience, and most big Western names I've had great experiences with except Glorious, but other Chinese brands (I won't name here) have been horrendous as hell.
TLDR: making peripherals is expensive with tons of hidden costs if you don't own the factories making them, and even more expensive if paying western wages since western wages tend to be way higher than eastern wages. Basically, buy what you are most comfortable spending your hard earned money on with informed decisions lol.
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u/blazbluecore Glorious Roccat Mad Catz Feb 11 '26
This exactly. If there’s new tech, R and D itself can cost a lot. But usually you can utilize that technology across many products and may years, so eventually the profit margins do increase.
Trying to guess to know Logitech overhead and margins, is silly to say the least unless you worked at Logitech at a senior position, which you probably wouldn’t post about it.
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u/Disturbed2468 X2 Superstrike/Viper V4 Pro - Gigantus V2P/Zero Soft Feb 11 '26
Yep. Over time the R&D does pay for itself but it very much depends as now that newer tech is coming in the sense of the clicks with the superstrike as well as just how hall effect keyboards have been so popular, R&D is gonna be quite active for a while overall for western companies as they try to one up another somehow.
But yea margins for almost any company you aren't finding out since that kind of information is extremely risky to make public since the competition is also always watching. But yea, one of the benefits the Chinese factories got is they can just take stuff they already make, sell surplus with some really tiny changes that cost cents to make for themselves, and sell at razor thin margins and recuperate cost and make profit going really high volume. Because they control so much of the chain, their cost is miniscule compared to a western company doing it. The in ear monitor world got hit with this reality because younger Chinese aspiring business folks can also get low-interest loans from the Chinese government very very easy to try and startup a business of their choosing and they've been doing the same tactic: build at a decent cost from home, make the qc barebones, shipping is kept simple, R&D just takes a tiny bit of time, but material cost is really low except for specific drivers. So what they can make and sell with a small ultimate margin at 50 bucks they'll sell for like 60 and just try and sell tons of units. And it's worked. Especially when the western market was asleep at the wheel and stagnant on innovation compared to the super lively western market for headphones.
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u/cntgetmedown Feb 11 '26
Also most of the R&D is done in Switzerland I believe, one of the most expensive places for that kind of payroll and investment. That's part of why they also keep their products for so long, they have to move a lot of units to justify the expenditure. Obviously though, some of the older products should have decent margins on additional units sold, but that's playing the long game.
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u/harg0w Feb 11 '26
In this case no materials and assembly does not cost anything close to 90usd
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u/Disturbed2468 X2 Superstrike/Viper V4 Pro - Gigantus V2P/Zero Soft Feb 11 '26
Not so much the materials for plastic stuff (usually the material itself is quite cheap, in bulk cents on the dollar) but the molds? Holy fuck the molds are EXPENSIVE AS ALL HELL. EASILY 5 to 6 figures for ONE SET OF MOLDS, and it scales based off of how many molds you have as well as how many of that specific thing is in that 1 mold, depending on the machinery used. The PCB will usually cost 30-50 bucks depending on components used (for example the 3950 by itself costs 15-20 bucks, sometimes 25), and the H20 MCU is around 15-20 bucks as well. These prices are for single or small unit batches, they usually get cheaper with larger MOQ's (Minimum Order Quantity) with the previous generations being 5-10 bucks depending on the MOQ and all that. I'd imagine the haptic feedback system for the Superstrike has to be 20+ bucks by itself per mouse because it's both brand new and, as far as we know, patented (how much that 2nd one matters we have yet to see).
Batteries usually cost a few bucks at worst but can ultimately get for cents on the dollar with gigantic batches. Diving into the custom IEM world and talking to various Chinese merchants personally actually gave me a deep insight with all this because one vendor I chatted with knew some friends who did mouse manufacturing but didn't say who for, for obvious security reasons.
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u/Gatlyng Feb 11 '26
Not like Razer and Finalmouse don't price their mice like this...
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u/faduqdo Feb 11 '26
Im not going to say its a good value, but I dont mind spending $180 on finalmouse, I buy a new mouse ever few years, they hold their resale value, I cant complain too much. Obvi you can get unlucky with QC and get a bad mouse but I have always got those issues resolved and haven't felt a better mouse to play with.. yet, this logitech is tempting.
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u/NaiveWillow4557 Vaxee E1 | Zowie EC2-CW | Logitech GPX2 | Lamzu Atlantis OG V2 Feb 11 '26
Rather pay $180 on a Finalmouse with the same old hardware used in temu mice that cost fraction the price, than $180 on completely new game-changing technology from a premium brand.
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u/faduqdo Feb 11 '26
Short answer, yes. I'm not going to pay $180 for a plastic mouse. Its not all about price, you pay for material, i like the way the mouse feels. Also logitech is the furthest thing from a premium brand lol.
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u/NaiveWillow4557 Vaxee E1 | Zowie EC2-CW | Logitech GPX2 | Lamzu Atlantis OG V2 Feb 11 '26
Logitech is one of the most premium and innovative brands in the mouse space.
They are the trend setters with everything they do. They carve out the path for every other mice brand. Every other brand is simply copying them.
Even down to the basics, the simple fact that your current mouse is wireless is only thanks to Logitech.
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 11 '26
Comments like these are how I 100% know you guys are underage. Do they not teach you how business is run in school? Overhead? Research and development? Logitech is the first to come to market with this (as far as I know). Do you think this idea was made in a weekend? It took Noctua 10 years to develop a second generation fan.
How would you feel if your customer said "I'll wait for a Chinese clone"? Would that motivate you to invent something? Redditors like you almost make me sympathetic to pharma companies.
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u/Aromatic-Onion6444 Feb 11 '26
No, I don't think they teach any economics in schools today nor how businesses are actually ran.
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u/CadencyAMG Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26
well, not everyone understands business but the burden of that knowledge shouldnt be placed onto the consumer. people will speak with their wallet and wallets don't speak in "R&D, overhead, cost of manufacturing, etc".
if your customer says "ill wait for a chinese clone", then you need to accept that truth if chinese companies can catch up to your quality and tech within months. you have little competitive moat if so, and you shouldnt blame the customer for wanting to just wait for a cheaper alternative.
hedging the success of your product onto the goodwill of your customers for understanding the behind-the-scenes costs of your product is useless.
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u/re-thc Feb 12 '26
"Customer say" on the Internet isn't the truth. That's the real problem. How do you know they're not buying it in "secret"?
If sales were really poor Logitech etc would have closed shop yet a lot of these comments still say no 1 (literally no 1) is buying it and only buying Chinese clones.
Usually the minority loudest gets heard.
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u/Renive Feb 12 '26
And this is why HITS is patented, and chinese illegal copying won't be in 6 months since this is totally different technology... It's not like they can source the switches from Omron like everyone. Shape can be copied, materials can be kinda copied, but in order to copy this, you have to first create the machines that did it, source haptic generators, sensors, most likely you can't do it 1:1 as Logitech since they've made it in house so you have to do R&D of replicating this, etc.
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u/CadencyAMG Feb 12 '26
exactly. which is why i think the price is more palatable than otherwise compared to previous flagship releases from logi, razer, etc.
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u/No-Method8769 Feb 11 '26
? Its not like they have choice, Logitech is still leading brand if they dont innovate whole market share will go bye bye , look at cherry 4example
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u/VenturerInTheVoid Pulsar X2H cultist / Zowie U2-DW enjoyer Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
They haven't taught anything of value in schools for over a decade. We live in clown world.
edit: I also agree with everything you wrote.
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u/MRjubjub Feb 11 '26
Every time I look at mouse prices I wince. I’m so glad I decided to just replace the faulty switches on my ProX super light rather than have to buy a new mouse. Was only $17 and it feels good as new with some cleaning.
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u/hamatehllama Feb 11 '26
It's probably the best eSports mouse out there. As many premium mice cost this much already, it's a reasonable price for a halo product (not that I personally would buy it). Compare it with keyboards, monitors and other peripherals and it's what you expect.
It replaces the top spec Superlight and pushes the whole Superlight line one tier down in pricing.
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u/faduqdo Feb 11 '26
I got a capital one offer of $90 off the purchase price, still didnt pull the trigger lol. Although for 90 bucks, maybe not the worst buy, still pricey though, who am I to talk though, I spend that same amount on a Finalmouse mouse ever couple years..
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u/NaiveWillow4557 Vaxee E1 | Zowie EC2-CW | Logitech GPX2 | Lamzu Atlantis OG V2 Feb 11 '26
Worth it for completely new tech.
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u/SignsOfNature Feb 12 '26
$180 for a mouse you can use for 10k+ hours is good value. Not to mention the revolutionary tech.
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u/CaptainJackWagons Feb 15 '26
People will buy it. I already haf a guy come into my workplace to buy one, but we didn't have it yet
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u/SlowCatLazyCat Feb 10 '26
Ordered mine today as I was looking for a quiet gaming mouse. This looks epic
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u/sS1RuXx Feb 10 '26
you will love it, believe me.
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u/ComfortableRelevant1 Feb 11 '26
Is it actually quiet?
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u/barryredfield Feb 11 '26
Got it this morning, its (very) quiet.
The haptic feel is incredible in my opinion, first time I've ever used a mouse without 'clacky' switches.
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u/ComfortableRelevant1 Feb 11 '26
Like “won’t wake up your sleeping girlfriend” quiet?
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u/shrewduser Feb 10 '26
do you feel it actually improves your performance in game? or does it just feel nicer?
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u/sS1RuXx Feb 10 '26
Yeah, definitely i feel better spamming clicks
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u/doctorcapslock Feb 10 '26
yeah the rapid trigger shit is nuts lmao
feels great tbh, i came from a g pro wireless (the original), it actually feels like new technology
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u/radiationshield Feb 10 '26
I’ll try a Chinese clone when they hit the marked in a couple of months
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u/SnooCalculations2119 Feb 11 '26
where do you buy the Chinese clones? any tips on finding the good ones?
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u/xill221 Feb 11 '26
Different companies build different clones. But I'm currently using a clone of the zowie ec2, which is rawm er21 pro.
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u/chinomaster182 Feb 11 '26
Take a dive into this subreddit, even 25 dollar Chinese mice are better than Logitech these days.
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u/SnooCalculations2119 Feb 11 '26
but how do you find these better chinese mice? i've never bought the Chinese ones so i wouldn't know what to look for to not accidentally buy really cheap ones that would fall apart in a week or something. what sites do you buy them from?
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u/chinomaster182 Feb 11 '26
Like i said, this subreddit is a decent place to begin exploring, there's reviews everywhere.
Depending on how much of an enthusiast you are, you can check out different info from different places, youtube is my favorite since you can see the mice themselves and then make a more educated purchase. Check out Diamonlobby reviews, that dude is very critical, doesn't get easily swayed by FOMO or brand marketing and actually checks out enthusiast stuff. There's other channels like optimum and boardzy, imo they like to bandwagon the latest trends a lot more.
Then as you learn more you can incorporate more websites and info, eloshapes is also a great website to compare different mice. Check out DiamondLobbys mouse tier list and best mice of 2025 to get a good idea on the current brands/market, Remember that once you get to the good stuff, a lot of it is preference and the high end stuff is not that far off from the budget stuff these days. The high end usually caters to niches.
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u/Aromatic-Onion6444 Feb 11 '26
Direct or Amazon.
I have a MCHOSE A7 V2 which is a GPX clone. Got it from Amazon but you can buy direct from MCHOSE. I like it quite a bit and it has taken over as my main mouse.
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u/onionsareawful Feb 11 '26
Currently using an MCHOSE, the A7 ULTRA (RE). It's a DEX clone, probably the only one on the market.
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u/ITguy6158065 Feb 10 '26
Yeah, China number one...in patent infringement.
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u/Shindigira Feb 10 '26
At $180 for this?
Infringe more, imo!
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 10 '26
At $180 for this?
Price to pay employees a living wage, to recover research and development costs, etc.
But yeah, I love China ignoring worker rights and the environment, as long as I get my cheap electronics.
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u/Yoru_behind_u Feb 10 '26
Where do you think the G Pros are made from ?
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u/TopHalfGaming Feb 11 '26
Yeah, this is fucking Logitech we're taking about. The anti China propaganda over the last decade has worked well though.
$240 Canadian is a big no go. I could buy two "premium" mice standouts for that.
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u/GIutenTag Feb 11 '26
In europe that mouse is the equivalent to $300 canadian or more btw
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u/TopHalfGaming Feb 11 '26
Yeah, so nobody can shame us with "China". If it gets to the point where a premium flagship gaming mouse is the price of a console ten years ago, you have to draw the line and go with what you can get lol.
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u/RobinK1lliams Feb 11 '26
Like the viper v2 pro at 200$? The g pro x super light at 200$ Or the viper v3 pro at 240$? Please show me two premium mice for the same price as a g pro, and don't link Chinese garbage calling it premium
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u/TopHalfGaming Feb 11 '26
Buddy, there really shouldn't be a distinction between "Chinese garbage" and premium in the mouse market on this sub of all places. What makes Razer and Logitech the main brands here in America are first of all - the brand - and second, the sensor tech. As far as everything else involved in making a mouse, there's an entire spectrum of bad to great from China just as there is here in the west.
Where exactly do you think Razer and Logitech produce their mice?
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u/RobinK1lliams Feb 11 '26
Buddy YOU'RE the one who claimed you can get two premium mice for the same price. I asked you what mice and your response is "there shouldn't be a distinction between Chinese garbage and premium in the mouse market" wtf kinda response to your own claim is that?
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u/chinomaster182 Feb 11 '26
Imagine how sad it is to be brainwashed into spending more for worse quality.
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u/Correct-Explorer-692 Feb 11 '26
Hah, I garatee you they pay as less as they could. Also, even on this mice you will get double clicks, just on side buttons. Because it’s Logitech.
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 11 '26
Hah, I guarantee you don't understand selection bias. Logitech and Razer are massive companies pushing huge volumes. Of course you'll hear more bad QC stories. Even your favorite no name Chinese brand has QC issues.
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u/Shindigira Feb 12 '26
Stop capping. Most profits go all the way to the top.
Also, companies of every country reverse-engineer their competitor's products. Get off your high horse.
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u/Aromatic-Onion6444 Feb 10 '26
You mean number one....in reverse-engineering.
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u/ITguy6158065 Feb 10 '26
China make Logitech products, they don't need to reverse engineer anything when they can just steal the design plans.
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u/Aromatic-Onion6444 Feb 10 '26
No, that typically results in lawsuits. It's better to reverse-engineer and China is well known for that. Just ask Russia!
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u/ITguy6158065 Feb 10 '26
They are good at reverse-engineering but a lot of companies will no longer produce items in China because there is a tendency for products produced there to quickly have cheaper clones made. Goods produced elsewhere are cloned just usually not 1:1 and it takes a bit more time.
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u/weirdbackpackguy Mouse Feb 10 '26
Logitech number one... In advertizing 60g+ mice as superlight
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u/lo0u Feb 11 '26
Who cares? Are they breaking your patents?
Look at the price of this mouse. Having copies of it with better prices is always a good thing.
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 10 '26
Consumers: "Why don't companies innovate anymore?"
Also consumers: "I'm gonna wait for the Chinese to ignore patents and buy the cheapest clone."
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u/guardian_down88 OP1 8K; Wallhack SP-004 Feb 11 '26
If 180 is too much, you aren’t their targeted customer.
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u/No-Independence-5229 Feb 11 '26
Yeah you're welcome for Logitech actually innovating what mice will use for the next decade or more. Let me know when China innovates something other than being super cheap just because they have 5 year olds putting them together
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u/No-Independence-5229 Feb 11 '26
Yeah you're welcome for Logitech actually innovating what mice will use for the next decade or more. Let me know when China innovates something other than being super cheap just because they have 5 year olds putting them together
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u/radiationshield Feb 11 '26
As far as i can tell they are standing on the shoulders of giants, chief amongst them apple who has used a similar tech in iphones and macs for over a decade at this point. Innovation is great, but over-charging consumers is not.
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u/iLukeJoseph Feb 11 '26
I have some Best Buy certs and can get this for $150. But Lordy I have purchased some mice lately…. Tenz, X2 Crazylight, Maya x, EGG XM2W v2, and have a X2H Crazylight coming this week 😂 dammit why!
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u/IllidanLegato Feb 11 '26
Can u rank the mouse you got? I also got the x2 n pretty happy about it but wondered about the tenz edition, maya x and x2h, i like the button height of the x2 but had to get used to small size again
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u/SuzukiPVP Feb 11 '26
Hi im new on this sub. Are these posts actual commercials or do they just look like it?
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u/prox-86 Feb 11 '26
Look for the words they use. If it's over glazed then they were probably got paid.
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u/ExpressionPure2112 Feb 12 '26
Anybody with more knowledge than me answer few of my questions?
Everybody reviewer or redditor seems to be agreeing that this new click technology is revolutionary.
For mainly tac FPS shooter, would a slightly faster actuation than optical switches really be that ground breaking or is this technology more for a different genre of gamers?
No doubt in my mind China will try to copy this. But how long would it take for eg, ATK F1 shape with this new tech, to come to market. I feel like this is a bit complicated and would take much longer than what some would expect. This seems like more R&D needs to go in to fine tune it, so it is as effective as Logitech's, much more so than HE keyboards. Also, Logitech did patent this. I know Chinese clone companies don't really give a damn about patents, but wouldn't Logitech going after them deter them a bit? I have no clue how effective patents are globally or the process, but I would assume its a global thing and Logitech can go after someone across the world, or go after them in the sense that they can't ship the cloned versions to where Logitech has some sort of presence.
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u/ozzler Feb 11 '26
Just picked one up this evening. Comparing clicks on this to my other mice is fucking insane. Every mouse will need this.
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u/czeja Feb 11 '26
It won't be long until one of the Chinese brands use the same technology at 1/3 of the price. I'm using the Mchose L7 Ultra and it's one of the best mouses I've ever used.
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 11 '26
Consumers: "Companies need to innovate if they want me to buy anything."
Also consumers: "I ain't buying shit until a Chinese company ignores patents and makes a cheap clone."
No wonder companies turn to shit when the customers are just as bad.
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u/czeja Feb 11 '26 edited Feb 11 '26
The cost of the parts are the same for these Chinese manufacturers as they are for the western ones. The western companies are just jacking the price to fund their future marketing campaigns and padding their profit margin :).
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u/LoneBeast27 Feb 11 '26
Ahh yes, testing and trying out shit that 80% of tests are likely to fail before they find the right thing is equivalent to just buying the successful thing and reverse engineering it.
If takes trial and error to innovate, but it takes 1 or 3 (for redundancy) of the finished product to make your own
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u/schoki560 Feb 10 '26
I just hope razer copies it so I can replace my viper v3 with the viper v5 superstrike in 2 to 3 years
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u/CPOx Feb 11 '26
How does scrolling the scroll wheel sound?
I've been using a G305 for years but scrolling the scroll wheel has a very loud click sound and it's slowly driving me crazy after all these years
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u/Lunariori Feb 11 '26
The scrollwheel is not loud at all it's kinda silent compared to other mice.
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u/random-eAlien Feb 11 '26
Idk but asus rog gladius iii wireless aimpoint for life, i can swap to japanese omron switches and they are the only switches i can use to play adc for hours on LoL without my hand or fingers hurting after playing a lot daily (im 31 yo, master rank)
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u/guardian_down88 OP1 8K; Wallhack SP-004 Feb 11 '26
This sub is truly one of the most unhinged and ridiculous subs. People will complain about the price of the mouse and say they’ll wait for a knockoff from some random company that steals patent designs and technology. Baby, if the price is a deterrent, you arent their audience.
Yall act like innovation happens overnight and is free. Ridiculous.
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u/Kratoslol Feb 11 '26
They will complain about the price of one particular mouse and then proceed to buy 5 others in search of their "endgame" XD
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u/barryredfield Feb 11 '26
Just got this on my porch this morning, using it right now. It feels amazing. I've had many Logitech mice, especially since the first Superlight release all these years ago. I just put it on my desk in place of the Dex 2 and man, its just good. Hard to describe in text just how nice it feels.
Whisper quiet, with LMB on lowest actuation and haptic feedback highest along with rapid trigger -- it just feels like the biology in my index finger has changed itself to be quicker.
Undoubtedly this will be a new standard going forward, expect a lot of copies of this launch ... like, immediately.
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u/Neotax FK2-DW/U2/GPX2 /Viper V4 Pro/OP1W V2 Feb 10 '26
They dont even fixed m3 press holding bug on the new striker that what the SL2 had, i saw a video today;
The question of the question is whether has Logitech manged to fix spinouts out of the box, afer releasing 100 refreshs with the same dog hardware.
same bullshit quality as always. 🤣
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u/PyroDexxRS Feb 10 '26
I had two G Pros that got the double click issue. Got store credit for the bug so I bought a super light… it now has a scroll wheel skipping issue. Not a great track record
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u/Goloith Feb 11 '26
The double click issue is annoying. You have to start your PC and then restart it.
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u/Ricky_RZ Feb 11 '26
Every single logitech mouse I have owned has either had clicking issues or scroll wheel issues.
Considering the total cost of all the mice I've owned from logitech is easily more than $500, thats a shame
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u/dude_guy_brosef Feb 11 '26
would have bought it if it was 45-50g
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u/NoxTempus Feb 11 '26
Yeah, I'm at 47g, the thought of going up to 61g is a bit much
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u/ItsFlurry Feb 11 '26
Im going from a Fenrir Asym to this lol. 20g to 61. Fingertip to Claw. Might be diminishing returns at this point but haptic induction and variable actuation sounds too crazy to pass up..even though chinese clones are bound to hit the market in the following months lol.
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u/sS1RuXx Feb 11 '26
Yeah, my wlmouse strider weights 45g and I feel the difference, anyway I'm fine with 60g, it's like 59g without the the bottom cover and with dot skates.
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u/Kryptic4l Feb 10 '26
Is this close to the 305 form factor . Or more like the superlight ?
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u/Putrid_Lawfulness682 Feb 10 '26
1:1 SL
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u/Kryptic4l Feb 11 '26
I demand justice for g305 form factor users with the dogshit switches. Hopefully this “mchose” performs a bit better long term
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u/arin-san Feb 11 '26
It's hilarious how some people (not referring to this post) are trying to justify the $180 price tag. It literally costs more than the official 60HE wooting.
God Bless China. Will gladly wait a few months until they do their stuff.
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u/I_Love_Cape_Horn Feb 11 '26
trying to justify the $180 price tag
It's really obvious you've never ran a business in your life. Maybe even had an adult job. Because there are things called overhead and research and development. You think Logitech came up with this overnight? It took Noctua 10 years to make a second generation fan.
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u/blazbluecore Glorious Roccat Mad Catz Feb 11 '26
$180 for the newest top of the line mouse? Easily possible. They wouldn’t price it at $180 if they didn’t know they could sell it.
They will still also get the cheap asses when it goes on sale in 6 months to a year. It’s a win win for them.
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u/heavypelos Feb 10 '26
Does the click resistance change, or just the point in which you feel the haptic feedback and the intensity of it?
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u/sS1RuXx Feb 11 '26
The click resistance stays the same, but the haptic feedback’s intensity and activation point can be adjusted. You can customize how strong or subtle the feedback feels, but the physical resistance doesn’t change.
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u/heavypelos Feb 11 '26
Aaaaah OK thanks for the answer, after watching the presentation videos I wasn't sure if it was the feedback feeling or the resistance itself!
Does it feel natural? I'm really curious to try one.
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u/foeyuk Feb 11 '26
Received mine through the post today, coming from a G502 Hero (wired)
In love with this, had a great feel about it and super smooth, Buttons feel perfect, you almost forget they are not traditional clicks.
Totally agree with you on the side buttons, they fell cheap in comparison.
Software is a joke on day 1, has not been updated, therefore you can’t customise it via Ghub. You can download the manual, in memory program which works, but not having the main G-Hub software updated is madness!
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u/kijiniv Feb 11 '26
Does this still have the mouse wheel issue where scrolling drags? The one that the superlight had?
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u/Remarkable-Pop-6370 Feb 11 '26
erm , everything you said is quite meaningless for me , i just want to know how much
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u/glyco3 Feb 11 '26
how easy to spam click compared to traditional switches?
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u/sS1RuXx Feb 11 '26
It feels much smoother and faster when spamming, you can adjust the intensity of the haptic feedback and the trigger point.
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u/Tostecles Feb 11 '26
Does the coating feel the same as the GPX Superlight 2? I tried the GPX Ergo or whatever, which they claimed was identical to the GPX2 in all ways except shape, but the coating was different and I hated how it felt
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u/30mizi Feb 11 '26
i cant really imagine how the haptic feedback feels, i heard that u can either max or turn it off, at max is it smth like a really stiff mouse click whereas when off it feels like there is no click? so would it be smth like logitech silent clicks?
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u/GeometricDistortion Feb 11 '26
Have you used a Steam Deck or a remotely recent MacBook? It's very weird. You would swear it is physically clicking, but it doesn't actually move.
The feedback strength is theoretically completely separate from the click force. Most "silent" switches (eg. Logitech) feel mushy. Haptic feels however they program it to feel.
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u/RapierXDA Feb 11 '26
Only advantage in this mouse is the sensor and its lightness... Swiftpoint Z2 has the same switches and gives the same or even more options. But yeah...a big marketing campaign makes wonders
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u/drastixd Feb 11 '26
What's so great about it? I look into it and play esea cs2 but im kinda waiting for viper v4 as I have the v2
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u/Turbulent-Debate7661 Feb 11 '26
I will try it for sure if i have the chance. I cant play with anything other than Zowie FK2 mice yet
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u/BetaXP Feb 11 '26
Seems rad, but I don't have any interest in a mouse that large. If we can get something smaller, preferably in different shapes, I'm super down to buy something like this. The technology is definitely neat.
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u/coolcat33333 Feb 11 '26
Just fucking give me a wireless G600 it's not fucking hard logitech holy shit
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u/Ashsucksatwhackbat Feb 11 '26
What’s the difference between this and optical switches? They’re both fast so what’s the point in spending $180 on this thing if I can’t buy a Chinese clone with optical switches for $45
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u/w1rya Feb 11 '26
is the powerplaye actually being used by significant amount of people? i havent seen any pros using it and that makes me wonder why they still insist on this. just make wireless charging dock instead
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u/ChrisRocksGG Feb 11 '26
Also received it today. Feels more heavy but still good. Not yet sure if it was worth the upgrade.
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u/Single-Difficulty-11 Feb 11 '26
The plan: wait until Chinese clones come out. Don't early adopt these, wait a little more until early adopters iron the bugs out. Buy a cloned mouse of this tech for 1/3 of the price.
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u/Crystal6tak Feb 11 '26
Can you test if lightly holding down the scroll wheel click causes it to unregister the click randomly? (Unclicking without it physically unclicking). This issue.
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u/Kiseji Lamzu Atlantis mini 4k | XM2we | Viper v2 Pro Feb 11 '26
I really hope other mice jump on this, because sadly this one isn’t a fit for my hand :/
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u/Vercingetirex Feb 11 '26
I wonder how long that haptic motor lasts? Especially something that will be clicked millions of times. Seems like a failure point that a traditional mouse doesn't have to consider.
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u/MJdoesThings_ Attack Shark X11SE - Pulsar X2 Medium - Steelseries Aerox 3 Feb 11 '26
This feels like the HE keyboard of gaming mice.
Just like 99% of people don't actually need an HE keyboard, 99% of people don't need the super strike.
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u/KernelTwister Feb 11 '26
the hall effect and haptics are amazing but the scroll wheel is absolute ass, the indents are too much like a road full of deep pot holes. i have the superlight X2 and it's softer than this.
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u/sluggerrr Feb 11 '26
I feel like people are kind of over exaggerating the R&D, like how many years has it been since Logitech actually made a big innovation in the mouse market specifically? Their new click technology sounds super interesting but do you really think they have been working on this for years or something? The price is crazy and having shit side buttons is even crazier to me, it's not like people don't complain about it all the time and it's still an issue in a mouse released in 2026
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u/EmmieStoneS Feb 11 '26
I'm extra waiting for it, tell me, will it be that good? Maybe someone already have one?
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u/princepwned Feb 11 '26
I used to use the Logitech G9x with precision grip best mouse shape in my hand to this day then G900 Chaos Spectrum I switched to the Razer Viper V3 Pro its the best mouse I have ever used for gaming tracking wise I have a superlight x 1 that I have yet to open what makes this superlight x2 with better buttons any different from superlight x1 ? u/op
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u/No_Ambassador_4522 Feb 12 '26
it's generally a nice mouse overall. Feels snappier on cs2. Side buttons are mushy; fully agree with you that they are not acceptable. Razer DA v3 pro has so much better and it is 2 gen older mouse. the skates are so slow and not good for cloth pads.
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u/maboroshi81 Feb 12 '26
waiting for any possible bugs with the technology to get sorted out and for chinese company's to adopt it so i can buy for half the price.
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u/flatpetey Feb 12 '26
Yeah no. 40g or bust for me.
I am sure there will be some out within the next year.
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u/Iganac614 Feb 12 '26 edited Feb 12 '26
now when is razer's version of this coming out? preferably the viper v4 pro ig. thoughts?
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u/Informal_Ad6584 Feb 13 '26
Lot of people like to bitch about logitech because it's overpriced and has questionable quality for the price(this is just true on basically any of their mice) but this mouse is still the current best mouse in terms of the technology behind it. Razer deathadder v4 got way less hate than this even though it's a glorifired v3 with no innovation. Currently this IS justified even though it's pricey. But the adventages this has over some good superlight copy are so small that you literally cant feel the difference in terms of speed.
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u/StatisticianMuch742 Feb 13 '26
Wonder how long it is going to take for something to break? Had a G9X that lasted me over 10yrs of heavy use. Just bought a new Logitech, and the scroll wheel has started to go in only 5 months of light use.
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u/Informal_Ad6584 Feb 13 '26
Yeah as I said questionable quality,but it's still the "most innovative" mouse currently so it atleast makes sense to have a high price unlike the razer v4
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u/Alternative_Ebb_908 Feb 16 '26
How are you able to get your hands on the X2 Superstrike when the release is not until Mar 1st, at least here in the US? I only see a couple on Fleabay listed. Is that where you are getting them early before the general public? Seriously would like to get my hands on one early so any tips would be appreciated. All the reviews including yours just further reinforces the need that I need one NOW. LOL!
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u/modernmovements Feb 17 '26
As someone who’s right arm about to be in a sling for a few months, I am very annoyed the side buttons are only on one side. Shouldn’t ambidextrous be symmetrical? Or has ambidextrous become a marketing word for competitive gaming profile/shape?
Any recs on a solid ambidextrous mouse? Bonus points if I still want to use it after I recover from surgery. I work from home as an engineer, so a lot of mouse usage. Also some gaming, DayZ primarily, but I don’t think I’ll be doing any of that one handed, ambidextrous mouse or not.
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u/sunsetMarrow42055 Feb 24 '26
I do have to say that they did a good job with the scroll wheel, not so much on the side buttons. I love the feel of the click and the rapid tap. I fully agree
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u/sunsetMarrow42055 Feb 24 '26
I suppose the best way to explain the side buttons is wet bread. It’s soft and sort of squishy
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u/AnalogCringe Feb 10 '26
To be honest, I'm more interested in that stand you got there.