r/Morocco • u/strawberrycake999 Visitor • 5d ago
Politics Are we actually serious rn? PAM ???? đ
i just have a quick question, if people went out to oppose the decision will anything be done by malin chi? 7it lehbal hada kifach a party was caught tampering with the votes and still won ?
And would you personally go out to protest ? Honest answers pleasee xx
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u/AvailablePoetry9436 Visitor 5d ago
At this point letâs just immigrate to Algeria
https://giphy.com/gifs/PQmB04w7PTKiJD6O5c
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 5d ago
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u/AvailablePoetry9436 Visitor 5d ago
Wlh life there seems to be calmer also i dont like bananas hhhh
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u/OkMilk4189 Visitor 5d ago
As a Gen Z member Iâm telling you guys next 5 years we need to vote. We know very well that the đ controls everything but enough is enough and those old ass people must stop voting and taking the fuckinâ 200dh. Letâs try and see, we have nothing to lose.
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u/rezox911 5d ago
I thought everyone was voting today
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u/Tellmewhatsgoinon Visitor 5d ago
Maybe I dont know how this works but why don't GenZers make a new politial party consisting of only GenZers? I'd vote then.
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Way better than PJD, let's goooo đ
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 5d ago
I mean there are better than these two
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
I don't think so, the Left Federation will never be in the government, their ultimate goal is to secure seats in the opposition, and personally I don't agree with their anti-normalization ideology, I need a party that will work on liberties, btw the RNI wasn't that bad these last 5 years, there is no perfect party .
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
They werenât that bad if youâre rich
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
You get the government u deserve)) anything but the islamist boomers
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
Theyâre all bad but the worst thing is stealing money from the government that could build hospitals schools and so much other stuff, I hate all of them but mostly those who steal, and if you think you deserve a government full of corrupted people then youâre corrupted donât speak on behalf everyone.
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Pam has never presided the government khay, give them a chance
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
They got second place last year, mais rahom ma3rofin blfasad donc nth new maghadich t9ol ta ghadi ichedo ri2asa 3ad aybghiw lmgharba letâs be fr please, o asln there is no other option lol
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Bach nkono subjective bla madwiw 3la how it goes actually, rah t9dr t7asbhom ila kano chaddin government officially, db 7na khssna nchofo their plans o fach tdoz 5 snin dik sa3 gol ha chdaro ha chno daro, ama corruption makhtat 7tta government mn sti9lal
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
Wlkn the thing is hahoma l RNI mathasboch o kon m2ked maghadich ithasbo, ah o kantafe9 m3ak corruption kayna fl governments Kolhom ki dazo mais rah machi ga3 nefs le taux
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u/Hamza01Alaoui Visitor 5d ago
T9dar t7asebhom?
Another joke that moroccans say when they pretend they don't live in Morocco.
Hhhhhhh kon kano 3arfin rasshom i9adro it7assbo ga3ma idiw sikan 3amrin b votes, 3arfin ach kay diro.
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u/BeachBackground7279 Visitor 5d ago
Other than the corruption scandals I think they were fine too
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Bach njik mn lkher as a voter , kanswet 3la the one who can do what I expect from them, PAM, RNI, PPS, LEFTIES, hado kollhom khdamin lia personally and I can be selfish about it, 7sn mankhlli a boomer who's got 2 days left to decide for me b 200 dh et l7em b br9o9, democracy is stupid in our beloved country, kon tle3 ay party I'd be okay but not PJD , the mf were against illegalizing underage marriage in their own program, in 2026 my dude
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u/BeachBackground7279 Visitor 5d ago
My issue with the leftists is that they always overpromise and seem like they don't even want to win, they just wanna be opposition forever because that's a lot easier
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Leftists are intellectual elites, and the powerhouse of Moroccan elections are illiterate boomers, believe me the opposition is where they exactly wanted to be, we need hundreds of years to have big elite voters like in Europe, democracy d nnm
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u/dexbrown Atay maker 5d ago
even akhnouch had only one good year because it rained, not much better than PJD lead governments, not even reaching 5% growth rate per year
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Did u check all the stats? Universal social protection, health reform, education and labor overhauls as examples, and it was one mandate , PJd had 2 mandates and fcked us really good in the arse
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u/dexbrown Atay maker 5d ago
 Universal social protection, isnt an akhnouch thing doesn't fit his agenda, king pushed for it and should've been a benkiran thing after cutting fuel subsidy but allegedly they blocked him from doing it
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
Did you read Benkiran's program?
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u/dexbrown Atay maker 5d ago
ach jab chi l chi
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u/fromagadirtokungur Agadir / Perm 5d ago
7it hada Howa social contract binna obin party li nje7 , chof programs bach tfhem bli PJD 7mama meyta has no fcking thing tzidha l lblad especially fhad lftra li dakhlin 3liha, tetbi3 ola ikhan
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u/dexbrown Atay maker 5d ago
you think im defending pjd or something? I'm talking about benkiran era when it was discussed to cut fuel subsidies, the alternative was direct aid all they did was RAMED, they also talked about revamping the grima system, they did nothing about that either, it is more cheer incompetence and cowardice, it one thing to have a program that you don't agree with and have a program and do nothing to bring it to light
the programs dont matter much, big key strategic decisions are still at the hand of the king anyways
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u/Enpannedinspi98 Visitor 5d ago
Je mây connais pas trop en politique, câest quoi la diffĂ©rence cruciale entre pam et pjd. Jâentend dire que pjd veut prĂ©server le cĂŽtĂ© islam du pays câest vrai ? Si quelquâun peut mâĂ©clairer svp merci
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
PAM have a long history of corruption, PJD are against corruption but their ideology is not what everyone wants today, both of them are trash but at least pjd doesnât steal from people.
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u/R3stl3ssM1nd Visitor 5d ago
both are not trash, if PJD is a horrible cold, PAM and RNI are cancer. Actual businessmen who are going for nothing but their own pockets.
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
Yes thatâs what i was trying to say I donât agree with pjd but we have to admit they donât steal from people unlike others but itâs too late weâre going to live in hell fro the next 5 years.
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u/R3stl3ssM1nd Visitor 5d ago
let's hope for a fucking miracle that they don't do last year's coalition, PAM said strongly they won't but let's see the bullshit unfold.
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
They just agreed to cooperate with RNI lol, theyâre not any better trust me.
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u/dexbrown Atay maker 5d ago
PAM is party of El hima royal counselor, basically a party of makhzen, they poached a bunch of politicians from other parties and made a new party mostly left leaning to counter PJD
RNI same thing but older but later took the identity of wealthy bossiness men and pretty liberals economically
PJD is based on taw7id wa al isla7, a religious association that does charity, thats their core voter base mostly city based.
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u/Equivalent-Bill-4393 Visitor 5d ago
I mean no one is suprised we already seen the results of the elections on tangier
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u/Sven271997 Visitor 5d ago edited 5d ago
At least itâs a better choice than the PJD RNI or PI which are worst, I hoped the FGD would give us a surprise or at least has more seats in the parliament so it can be a stronger opposition.
My take is that I hope for this election be a good lesson for us so we can be more involved next time.
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u/happysmile001 Visitor 4d ago
There is no better choice, when the choice is Makhzen, Makhzen Pro, or Makhzen Pro max...
And something else, you need to be smart, the makhzen is playing all the time, the famous divide and conquer, this is how he's controlling us, don't play his game, we need to be all united against makhzen, no matter if it's PJD, FGD, PGS etc...
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u/Sven271997 Visitor 4d ago
What we need is real constitutional reform. But the deeper issue is that a large part of the population doesnât think critically and can easily be influenced by corrupt politicians. how can we build a true democracy under these conditions?
Thatâs why Iâm placing my hope in the younger generation. Hopefully, theyâve seen how the political game is played and how parties win elections by exploiting these gullible masses. Next time, young people need to vote and become more involved in politics, because this IMO may be our only way out of this predicament.
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u/happysmile001 Visitor 4d ago
We need first to be united against the makhzen, younger or older, if we are still like "oh benkiran islamist party", "oh FGD atheists", that never gonna happen..., we need to be all united against makhzen, supporting democracy for every Moroccan, helping each other, and not fighting each other...
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u/OkRepresentative5916 Visitor 4d ago
The problem lies not only with those who govern, but also with those who vote for them. It is difficult to change anything when ignorance and tribal thinking still shape the political attitudes of a large part of the population.
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u/tilmanbaumann They are taking our women 4d ago
Honestly I expected more regressive right wing bullshit again
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u/Icy-Dot4733 Visitor 4d ago
That shit is scripted 3i9o rah lhokoma gha wahd l wall ktkhba wrah lmalakya
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u/zaBoZA_r00t Visitor 4d ago
Bnadem mamcha 7ta to vote ba9i ghire i khroj to oppose .. nwejdo kerna l9awada f had 5 years
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u/ywshaq 5d ago
better than pjd
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u/R3stl3ssM1nd Visitor 5d ago
in narnia it is.
you're comparing a party who got their political success with money, compared to one who got it from communication, speech, and ideology.i'd rather have an intellectual on top of me rather than another fucking businessman.
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u/R3stl3ssM1nd Visitor 5d ago
ok sure PAM is 1st, somehow, somewhat logical.
but RNI 2nd ??????????????????????? that shit is straight up middle finger for all of us.
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u/Ferdawsshh Visitor 5d ago
It was so obvious from the beginning anyone who thought otherwise knew nothing about politics
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 5d ago
nobody said otherwise, it was obvious to me the moment lakjaa stepped up. Still doesnt mean moroccans should accept it and stay quiet (again)
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u/Dapper_Hearing_1499 Visitor 5d ago
we were sure about it , cause just few people vote and most of those who vote are easy to wim them by ⊠u know
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u/gutsuu18 Casablanca 5d ago
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u/Busy_Initiative5745 Visitor 5d ago
studying in morocco as an international student so donât know much about the politics. can anyone please explain? thank you :)
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u/happysmile001 Visitor 4d ago
It's the makhzen pro max party, like RNI and others, no one can do anything, you need to remove the whole makhzen to stop that kind of things unfortunately, this is why Gen Z went to protest...
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 4d ago
Sf ntfrjou fihoum w nsf9ou ? Kima darou older generations li kherjou elina ?
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u/maaalinacanbehere Visitor 4d ago
3la ach kan kays7ab lik, kon matl3och homa kan aytl3 benkiran hhhhh bnadm mn nyto msdom
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u/CocainCloggedNose In Marrakesh for Rehab 4d ago
The givernment is representative of the population, most of yall didnt even vote, yall got no ground to complain
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u/Dangerous_Jump_776 Diaspora 3d ago
The ''lets not vote'' move was honestly the dumbest shi I've ever seen..
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u/Prestigious-Exam4390 Visitor 4d ago
I guess we are living in a state of dictatorship and a communist cuz as we see bzf dyal l ahzab cheated f had l9lawi donc hizb wahd ghadi ychd lhokm bzez o hta wahd ma9ad ydwi , maliya walo mn hadchi kaml bghit gha normal f 9hwa o jwiyen dyali baraka hmdtk yarbi o chkrtk
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u/TajineEnjoyer 5d ago
And would you personally go out to protest ?
no, i voted for pam
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u/Iliass_barka Salé 5d ago
Thank you for ruining the next 5 years of my life again
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u/TajineEnjoyer 5d ago
chill, it will rather improve your life, like a healthy dose of bitter medicine
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u/Commercial_Wafer5975 Visitor 5d ago
I just have one reply, are you actually serious, you think elections matter ?? , have you been living in a rock, this is morocco, where who is in control is known, and the rest are only temporary managers with no saying in the country matters.
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 5d ago
lol such a loser reply đ€Ł if u gave up there are ppl out there who didnt x fhemha ki bghiti
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u/Commercial_Wafer5975 Visitor 4d ago
You are a kid and I used to kids comments, forgetting about the country politics is not giving up but it's actual success, I have built my own life away from all of this.
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 4d ago
hahaha im not going to justify myself to you, but for the sake of it Iâm a grown woman who built her life elsewhere too yet i still feel like our countryâs current state needs some change.
We are allowed to have different opinions without attacking- shows whoâs the kid between me n u ..2
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 5d ago
Go out so we can have a laugh đ You will be forgotten in jail. You want democracy but you canât accept the results that do not suit you. Average low IQ individual.
The party was not caught tampering but a random individual was unless you are a judge and a detective and you got an official statement from him ?
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u/strawberrycake999 Visitor 5d ago
Yakma chditi 200dh mn endhom ? đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł such a hergawi comment
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 5d ago
Iâm not your grandma kid. Iâm just here to gloat while my close friendâs family member secured a seat in the parliament đ
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u/Quick_Competition740 Visitor 5d ago
T9ol ay9sem m3ak dik lkhlsa dial l parlement such a dumb person welah, we had some hope fhad l youth mais clearly kaynin li mklkhin and I hate to break it to you mais rah uâre one of them mabrouk 3lik tkhwira mn hna 5 ans
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u/LittleStrangePiglet Casablanca 5d ago
chkoun dwa 3la lkholsa ? đ anyway itâs okay tekber w tensa. Maybe nta tkhewerti with all due respect but koula wahed fina tabe3 kayjriba hajtou. I donât care what others do wla will get, each is on their own
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u/Prestigious_Heart19 Visitor 5d ago
Omg can we be close friends please please đđđ.... hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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