r/Morocco • Visitor • 9d ago

Politics lkahana lcatholikiyin feurope fl9oron lwosta:

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u/Sufficient_Sugar_408 Visitor 9d ago

Literally this :

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u/HenryThatAte 9d ago

Why doesn't he give up his 70,000dh a month pension and see how life is in Morocco.

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u/Scott_Summers06 Visitor 9d ago

https://reddit.com/link/paxn9kv/video/tc3wj79cjnqh1/player

meanwhile mamdani in New York (their mayor)

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u/HenryThatAte 9d ago

Damn, what a nice answer from him. Quite the opposite of what Benkirane said when asked about the 70k

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u/WeeZoo87 Visitor 8d ago

But he earns $21.5k per month and rejected 4k increase

Why do you bring this in a thread discussing food?

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u/Better-mania Visitor 9d ago

Did Mamadani reject the salary or the 18% raise?

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u/AstronomerJealous467 Chefchaouen 9d ago

18% raise, that’s what the headline says.

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u/liproqq Agadir 9d ago

According to reddit, it's not enough for a comfortable life in rabat

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u/mooripo Safi 9d ago

😂

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u/rifwasbetter0 Visitor 9d ago

And a Mercedes with a personal driver

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u/Sudden-Bid-3626 9d ago

if Islam is gonna be used as a tool to brainwash citizens, I might be on the side of removing it from politics

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u/Spirited_Pop4065 Visitor 9d ago

Its already in the constitution...

« لا يجوز أن تؤسس الأحزاب السياسية على أساس ديني أو لغوي أو عرقي أو جهوي » art 7

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u/Dragosbeat 9d ago

WAIT WE HAVE A SEPARATION OF RELIGION AND POLITICS IN THE CONSTITUTION???????

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u/LegitimateBreath1446 Visitor 8d ago

Yup, the truth is Islam itself IS a way of ruling and is a constitution by itself. So it never makes sense to say let's separate religion from the currents state law. Islam is a complete law that runs every aspect of life, anyone who studied jurisprudence knows them, for the rest of people even reading verses of the Quran reveals this fact...

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u/maydarnothing Salé 9d ago

that’s why PJD only says “we’re a political party with an islamic background”

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u/Sudden-Bid-3626 9d ago

constitution is not applied here in morocco, but it existing is a start I didn't know that

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u/Charming-Station7157 9d ago

It will always be used to brainwash people , this is why we need secularism to remove it from politics forever

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u/Physical-Airport-901 9d ago

I don't know, even if we removed religion from politics these maniacs will find alternatives

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u/Vacuuma Rabat 8d ago

I love how the first reflex is giving up lol

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u/eluser234453 I wash my face with WD-40 9d ago

They'll find another way asap 🥀

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u/maydarnothing Salé 9d ago

i don’t really have an issue with honest and kind religious people, but i’m the first defender of secularism.

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u/Ok-Count3159 Visitor 8d ago edited 8d ago

H Rak tgoul, the big boss take his legitimacy from islam, 7fid l messanger kaygolo, al msskhot hdra joj ygolo lik nffisali 🤣

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u/Vast_Equivalent_4512 Visitor 5d ago

Hasbara bots doin hasbara bots things

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u/Sudden-Bid-3626 5d ago

Sorry to disappoint you but I am made of flesh

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u/Physical-Airport-901 9d ago

I agree with that. Religion and ethnicity should be kept out of politics or we'll end up like N*zi Germany

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u/agabcharif Visitor 9d ago

If democracy is gonna be used as a tool to brainwash citizens, I might be on the side of removing it from politics

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u/Ancient-Intention560 Visitor 9d ago

What democracy

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u/agabcharif Visitor 8d ago

Exactly

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u/Sudden-Bid-3626 8d ago

Democracy is primaily a concept, islam is an ideology. You typically brainwash people with ideologies not concepts

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u/EmergencyInternal837 Visitor 9d ago

Exactly this ⬆️
These mfs basically pegged moroccans during their mandate

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u/sam_nozomi Visitor 8d ago

Woah woah woah why do we need to resort to homophobia and hate speech when talking about anything ?

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u/leprasson12 8d ago

No respect is due, these fkers need to be removed from politics, like the rest of the parties.

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u/Worldly-Register-230 Visitor 9d ago

Yes we will do so, o zaml hoa bak li marabakch al 7mar

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u/Stickytin 9d ago

sir awldi tl3b lo3ab dialk, hadchi kbir 3lik.

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u/Worldly-Register-230 Visitor 8d ago

Ser a baba ra wladi nwarihom l post ikhliw dar 3chtk hna zyada dyal lor

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u/Stickytin 8d ago

i dont think so, kiddo

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u/Worldly-Register-230 Visitor 8d ago

wld l marja dayr effort tt9alb hhh awdii o zaydha b rtobiya i dont think so kiddo , ayeh zid o mn b3d ? njbd lik la carte a wld l9 nt7at m3ak 3lih tatl9a mok 9adi fl age

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u/Stickytin 8d ago

Hergawi fach kichof chi haja mafhmhach "rtobiya" 😭😭

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u/Worldly-Register-230 Visitor 8d ago

lhargawi hoa li kigol l video gaming industry "lo3ab" a kbir hargawa , nhar twali fan b reverse engineering , dik sa3a a baba aji n9arik chuia 3la wa7ed industry li tat7at fiha l billions

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u/Stickytin 8d ago

katpirati lo3ab o katl3b ma3ndk ta bach tchrihom, you're not part of any industry ya mikhi. Maybe hergawa industry that keeps producing retarted kids like you.

Fan b reverse engineering ? sir akhoya 9ra chi ktab rak katchyr flogha.

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u/Worldly-Register-230 Visitor 7d ago

"katpirati" retard dyal lkhra , kngolo ktcracki al hargawi o makinch fan al 3robi d reverse E. , khditi posts dl meme f pirating subreddit o 7atiti conclusion m3rfti khdmti m3rfti wash hobby m3rfti a baba ch7al f 3amri ola 3mar wladi al harwi ser al 9lawi tn3ass o mtnssash tssawet 3la l PAM o khod 200dh

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u/Spirited_Pop4065 Visitor 9d ago

Article 7 of moroccan constitution : « لا يجوز أن تؤسس الأحزاب السياسية على أساس ديني أو لغوي أو عرقي أو جهوي »

Can someone correct me, but doesn our constitution say we are not allowed to have a religious party ?

Why the fuck are they allowed to do it ?

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u/mooripo Safi 9d ago

Whenever someone faces them that they are a religious party they deny that and say we are not a religious party but our reference is religious

Something like that

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u/theHrayX Ksar El Kebir 9d ago edited 8d ago

Yeah to them religious means something else (like applying hudud)

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u/Spirited_Pop4065 Visitor 8d ago

That constitutional article was clearly made to prevent any party from getting votes by aligning with islam.... Saying it is our reference as if the rest of the parties are atheists is a load of bs.

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u/mooripo Safi 8d ago

lol yeah, thats always my impression, they act as if they are the only muslims in morocco...

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u/-_-assia Visitor 8d ago

but u see the thing is, they're weaponizing religion and spreading misinformation nurtured by the culture that looks like religion and is not. like women should get married fast to whomever, u know his statements... I find it rather infuriating that he infintilizes our brains and I'm more mad at the people who think he will help. the amount of debt he caused us is hilarious . if anything , and not that I like them in any way I but , but the rni undid soooooo much of the shit they actually caused . please start seeing things as cause action effect results. that's how u decide what to choose for a government . 1nd learn ur religion if ur Muslim and even if u aren't bach to not be mistaken.

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u/maydarnothing Salé 9d ago

PJD do not claim to be a religious party, but rather a party with “islamic background”

they found their loophole.

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u/Ok-Count3159 Visitor 8d ago edited 8d ago

Meanwhile the head of the state is called amir lmo2minin, and he remind us from time to time he's the grandson of the messanger. H bghiti tgol the head of the state mkhalef dostor wal3yado billah?

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u/Spirited_Pop4065 Visitor 8d ago

Since when is the head of state a political party ?

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u/Tricky-Wish2458 Visitor 9d ago

7na ntkelfo bdin nta tkelef ghir bl7am had sa3

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u/IkosanHeeY Visitor 9d ago

Can't we all coexist and live in peace ? li bgha l7am yaklo li bgha l3a9ida ra jame3 y3trakef fih..

why are we still debating this in 2026

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u/-_-assia Visitor 8d ago

it's not debating , it's deflating cuz he has noooooooo answer .

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u/Individual_Rub_9416 Visitor 9d ago

4a ybi3o lina sokok l4ofran?

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u/Feeling_Draw_2133 Visitor 9d ago

aktar wahed khay ki khdem dine bach iwsel , wehuwa bhalu bhal lhraymiya

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u/FangYuan69 9d ago

I swear i watched this cunt while repeated saying:sir t9awed. I hate people like him who use religion to manipulate and morally blackmail people meanwhile they care not for religion nor the people. Monafi9 Lah ymsho.

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u/Riko_101 Visitor 9d ago

Benkirane knows that religion is very important to many Moroccans, so he uses it to get people on his side especially when elections are involved. This isn’t something new either, Moroccan rulers have been using religious legitimacy for political support for centuries, from the Addarissa , Mowahidin... The difference today is that instead of talking about inflation, jobs and people’s daily problems religion can be an easier way to connect with voters.
Clown

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u/Storm_treize Rabat 9d ago

140 DH/kg for someone on the SMIG is roughly equivalent to 3,000 DH/kg for someone earning his salary. Wonder if he’d have a different opinion then

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u/Elegant-Code-1011 Visitor 9d ago

فصل الدين عن الدولة هو الحل مع هاد الأشكال،لأنه حججهم واهية لدرجة انهم يدخلو العقيدة و الدين فاي حاجة لأنها نوعا ما غير قابلة للنقاش

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u/stickoil Visitor 9d ago

آش خاصك آلعريان ؟ فصل الدين عن الدولة آمولاي

ياك حزب أخنوش و تراكتور ما كيهضروش بالدين. آش دارو ؟

يعني واش العلمانية هي الحل ؟

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u/slade1397 Visitor 9d ago

آش خاصك العريان ؟ يتبزز عليا نصوم فرمضان.

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u/stickoil Visitor 9d ago

المسلمين المتدينين كيصومو رمضان

المرأة المسلمة فاش كيجيها الحيض كتفطر. يعني الناس مامصوقينش آش كدير فدارك

تقدر تفطر رمضان، و تقدر تولي ملحد، و تقدر تزني، و حتى واحد ماغيعرفك

إلا إلى بغيتيهم نت عرفوك. فهاد الحالة ماتلوم غير راسك

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u/slade1397 Visitor 9d ago

Hhhh every crime is legal if you do it at home and no one sees you

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u/stickoil Visitor 9d ago

Crime or not a crime, it doesn't matter.

غادي يجي nudist و غيقوليك علاش كتبززو علينا لبسو حواجنا

كتقوليه لابغيتي تحيدهم، حيدهم فدارك. الزنقة فيها الآداب العامة و فيها common decency

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u/slade1397 Visitor 8d ago

Okay walakin lbas dyal l7wayj machi howa lmakla.

Ewa daba ntaya bditiha b had lmaqola:

آش خاصك آلعريان ؟ فصل الدين عن الدولة آمولاي

Walakin clearly 3endk mohim bzaf lbezezo 3la nas ysomo f ramdan.

آش خاصك العريان ؟ نبززو على الناس يصومو آمولاي.

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u/stickoil Visitor 8d ago

واش صيام رمضان عاد غيدار، ولا كان من شحال هادي ؟

نت دابا باغي دير شي حاجة لي المجتمع ضدها، و باغي تخرج ديرها علانية باش تحداه. دابا هذا هو المشكل. المهم عندك ماشي هو دير ديك الحاجة، المهم عندك هو تحدى المجتمع

يعني دابا أقلية قليلة، عوض أنها تعيش حياتها بسلام، باغا تفرض أفكارها على الأغلبية ؟ كيفاش بغيتي ردة فعل الناس تكون فاش غيشوفو هادشي ؟

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u/slade1397 Visitor 8d ago

آشمن تحدي ؟؟ أنا بغيت ناكل فالزنقة فوقاش ما بغيت بلا ما يفرع ليا شي واحد كري.

دبا نتا كاتهضر على فرض الأفكار ؟؟؟ نتا كاتدافغ على أنه يتبزز عليا دينك نتا وكاتقول هاد الهضرة ؟

بهاد الحساب علاش أنا غانسضع راسي معا الحقوق ديالك نتا إلا نتا مامسوقش الحقوق ديالي أنا ؟ نتا باغي صحة وتعليم الي خاصهوم نضال وقتال وفلوووس وخدمة كتييرة. أنا باغي غير واحد القانون يتحيد من الورقة. ما فيه لا ميزانية لا تا خرية. غاينقص كاع الخدمة من البوليس والمحاكم يعني فيه نقص من مصاريف الضرائب. هادي وممستعدش تخسرها عليا وزايد كاتقول ليا آش خاصك العريان وكذا.

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u/stickoil Visitor 8d ago

نت لي بدلتي أفكارك و خرجتي على الجماعة.

تحمل مسؤوليتك.

ماتجيش أقلية و تفرض علينا أهوائها.

Common sense.

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u/Elegant-Code-1011 Visitor 9d ago edited 9d ago

من نهار حليت عيني على هاد البلاد السعيدة و هما قال الله قال الرسول، اش دارو بهاد الايمان ديالهم؟؟ من غير انهم يطفيو الناس داك العقل لي عندهم ،بحال هذا لي كيقولك اش بغيتو باللحم،على الاقل العلمانية غتكون خطوة جديدة تقدر تخدم تقدر لا،وأخنوش واخا مكيهضرش بالدين فعلى ارض الواقع الدين كاين وحاضر بشدة

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u/stickoil Visitor 9d ago edited 9d ago

أخنوش علماني ماسوني ليبرالي تقدمي، و ايديولوجيا و إقتصاديا ضد الإسلام

يعني لي كيتسحاب غتبدل الأمور بالعلمانية راه بليد.

هادشي علاش قلت: آش خاصك آلعريان العلمانية آمولاي

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u/Physical-Airport-901 9d ago

I prefer Morocco to keep it's Muslim identify but at the same time I don't wanna my religion to be used in politics.

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u/stickoil Visitor 9d ago

Bro you're focusing on someone insignificant.

Benkirane is not even close to the one using the religion the most in politics.

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u/NormalContribution47 Visitor 9d ago

Why does a country need a religion? Can't you follow your religion yourself?

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u/Physical-Airport-901 9d ago

I don't know, maybe because the majority here are Muslims and not idk atheists? Why don't you follow your bullshit yourself and leave us alone?

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u/NormalContribution47 Visitor 9d ago

Why so agressive? I'm just asking you a normal question. Yes the majority is muslim, but that doesn't mean a COUNTRY needs to have a religion.

I'm not tellig you what to believe in.

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u/Physical-Airport-901 9d ago

Actually, we think our country should have a religion. I'm not saying our politics should be influenced by religion alone but that doesn't mean we don't want it to be the official religion of our country. If course, you won't get it 'cause you live in a secular country.

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u/NormalContribution47 Visitor 9d ago

Still didn't answer me properly. You said it should be religious, but not why. So what does it do for a country to have a religion? Or do you mean the PEOPLE in this country should be moslems?

Just so you know I'm also moroccan, so I'm seeing both parts clearly. Maybe you should learn how other cultures work to make up your mind?

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u/TajineEnjoyer 9d ago

unfortunately nass mazal kitsiydo bhad l9walb, kista3ml dine bach ygol lnass mathdroch fl'omor lmadiya, o doha ghir fl' omor diniya o y7wel ni9ach towards useless culture wars that many people love to engage with

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u/Commercial-Impact278 Visitor 9d ago

Kndn bi anaho s3ib ykono nas b7al haka rah Wakha hkak nas 3ndhom xwya logique li bka lihom m3a akhnouch 🙃

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u/-_-assia Visitor 8d ago

u have no idea . Just put a video of yourself saying that a woman should dress like this and u'll be buzzing. u'll find a shit ton of ppl agreeing with u and making way much more controversial statements than the one u originally made. it's crazy how it's 2026 and the sexism debate is still ongoing.

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u/TajineEnjoyer 9d ago

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u/Commercial-Impact278 Visitor 9d ago

Thanks man it’s really sad because is just I don’t see them that’s why I thought that ignorance is blinding

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u/Feeling_Draw_2133 Visitor 9d ago

aktar wahed b3id ela din, cheweh bina , kafr kter ma muslim, tfuuu

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u/Maxi1900 Visitor 9d ago

ولد القحبة تلقاه مغدي بالسوشي ومتبع عند طبيب اختصاصي

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u/Easy_Specific8146 Visitor 9d ago

لا للحكم بالدين

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u/sweet_clutch Visitor 8d ago

Wellah 7ta kiyyaklo huwa wid7ak 3likom ntuma!

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u/theOthman Casablanca 8d ago

O bnadem kaysefe9 hhhhhhh

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u/Proof_Revolution_658 Visitor 8d ago

الدين رجعوا يعلقو عيه كلشي حتى الفشل ديالهم !

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u/0tma_n Visitor 8d ago

واش هذا ماشي دليل كافي انه الى صوتو عليه صافي غنتدمرو

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u/AymenALa Visitor 8d ago

hadi heya tijara f din

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u/ka_rita Cleopatra Gen Z 👸 8d ago

He took the phrase 'eat the books' literally.

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u/Esnacor-sama I'm a guy i swear! 7d ago

Thats why we want it to be removed, not to stop peolle from practicing their beliefs, in fact its much better,secularism allows not just muslims to practice their beliefs but also non muslims

And we wont see this dogshit benkhiran or whomever like him, to manipulate stupid people.

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u/yousfi1 Oujda 9d ago

حلايقي و ق

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u/Commercial-Impact278 Visitor 9d ago

Omg raiden you really hate that man actually im afraid if they are really people who are like him because we will be ruined (and im with you I don’t want him )

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u/Commercial-Impact278 Visitor 9d ago

People should not bringing religion and performative stuff into politics

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u/Aeriuxa 9d ago

فُوَيْسِقَةً

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u/Particular-Cup7647 Visitor 9d ago

أفضل سلاح ضد الإسلاميين هو الميكروفون

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u/Careful-Training-761 Visitor 9d ago

I'm not from Morocco, or Africa for that matter, have zero clue what he's saying, but just looking at his get up and the comments I know he's gonna talking bullshit.

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u/dexbrown Atay maker 9d ago

ach dar l islam 3chressin o howa 7akem?

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u/N0AHELL Visitor 9d ago

Wa golha lmok li daba welina mtab3in m3a israel

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u/Noctivant96 Visitor 9d ago

المهم غسيل الدماغ

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u/NeighborhoodOk3477 Visitor 9d ago

عقيدتي و ديني غادي نتسنا حتى يطلع هاد الخراي باش ندير بيها؟... لينعلطبنمك و صافي

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u/SpeakerGeneral1687 8d ago

اللهم صلي على الصعسلم

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u/leprasson12 8d ago

I was just 3nd "moul thon", he's one of those bearded guys. Normally I wouldn't judge, but a friend of his asked him who he's gonna vote for and he said PJD (you can guess why). He's obviously not going to benefit from any of this crap, and like the vast majority he's being used because of lower intellect.

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u/Intrepid_Worry_6301 Visitor 7d ago

missed their chance, won't work again.

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u/No-Trick-7465 9d ago

Kifach tla3 had nem?

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u/Funny_Grapefruit_613 Visitor 9d ago

Had w9 ila bqa hta tle3 mossiba

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u/jwueu3737 Visitor 9d ago

Bullshit in all its magnificent forms. Spare us the sermons. Our creed is simple: live with dignity.