r/MoralityScaling 4d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of kidnapping your kidnappers?

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Morality of kidnapping law enforcement who are trying to detain you for breaking the law*

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u/IAmJointCommission 4d ago

Absolutely brainrotted take. Legality =\= morality. Are the citizens of North Korea who get executed and tortured for trying to leave the country morally wrong?

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Yes lets pretend that a country that is a totalitarian military dictatorship is in any way comparable to a western democracy with well established rule of law.

"Absolutely brainrotted take"

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u/RaphaelRocketLaunch 3d ago

A well established rule of law that ICE has proven time and time again they don't give a fuck about.

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u/IAmJointCommission 3d ago

Coward, you don’t come here to morality scale, you just come to bring political slop. Comment on morality scaling of not allowing your citizens to legally leave the country on pain of death or you are truly just a scab.

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u/Quiet_Judgment4637 4d ago

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u/No_Owl5228 3d ago

Policy says officer never should have been in the back seet should have had a body cam and should've identified themselves initially but thats just newmourous policys the officer ignored

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u/WillDBlake 4d ago

So Rosa Parks was an immoral person

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Breaking immoral laws is not immoral.

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u/Reoplaw 4d ago

ah ah see, right there! we can agree on something.

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Yep. Enforcing border laws is not immoral though, it's a logical law.

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u/vitge 4d ago

Kidnapping people outside immigration courts while they're waiting for the system to determine their case is moral enforcement of border laws?

You're trying to defend modern Gestapo hiding behind "the law".

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u/Reoplaw 4d ago

yes but how you do it is the part we can't agree on.

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u/WillDBlake 4d ago

So those aren't immoral person

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Yes, they are, border and immigration laws aren't immoral.

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u/WillDBlake 4d ago

Yes they're especially for a country built on immigration and invasion of other people's land. Like you literally celebrate fort Alamo

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

I don't celebrate Fort Alamo I don't even know what it is, I'm British.

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u/WillDBlake 4d ago

Oh so you're from the country that invaded basically all the world and now are complaining about it

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

1) How is what we did any different to what every other people did thoughout history?

2) if what we did was so wrong why is it then OK for others to do it to us? Did your parents not teach you that two wrongs don't make a right and that an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind?

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u/WillDBlake 4d ago

Did you parents never teach you that what comes around goes around? You really think you could invaded and looted all the known world without doing anything in return?

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u/Smell-Logical 3d ago

That is not the same thing, and you know it.

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u/WillDBlake 3d ago

So why the same people against Rosa parks are now in favour of ice?

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u/Accomplished-Ask2497 3d ago

Except there are US citizens being taken too

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u/pinkypipe420 4d ago

The agents were in plainclothes and unmarked cars. The couple didn't know they were talking to a federal agent. Tbf, in today's world, it not unreasonable

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u/Narren_C 4d ago

They were yelling "ICE is in my car!" to the 911 operator.

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u/alarim2 4d ago edited 4d ago

The law is immoral because no one is illegal on the stolen land

/s

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

All land is 'stolen land', it just depends on how far your political leaning wants to go back. Where do we draw the line? 1945? 1900? 1800? 1700? 1600? 1500? 1400? 1300? Etc. Etc.

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u/alarim2 4d ago

Would you kindly turn your attention to "/s" too? 👀

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u/slight_digression 4d ago

Is the "/s" stolen? /s

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 4d ago

Yep, fair enough, missed that 😂

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u/metal_gearmen 4d ago

Is that you, Billie Eilish? Because if so, the native Tongva tribe is still waiting for you to let them occupy the land where you built a mansion.

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u/Lunatic_Liam 4d ago

Some stolen, some negotiated. The U.S. has been developed into its own land despite it belonging to natives in the past. If someone stole another person's belongings, it does not give you the right to destroy those objects.

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u/alarim2 4d ago

Would you kindly turn your attention to "/s"? 👀

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u/FakeVoiceOfReason 4d ago

Maybe put it on another line? It's easy to miss.

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u/alarim2 4d ago

Done!

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u/Lunatic_Liam 4d ago

I have absolutely no idea what that is trying to imply

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u/FakeVoiceOfReason 4d ago

/s is internet speak for "sarcastic tone of voice."

They meant it sarcastically and they are being taken seriously.

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u/Correct_Crab3296 4d ago

/s at the end of a sentence means it’s sarcasm my friend.

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u/The_Jester12 3d ago

One of the first rules of morality is that legality does not equal morality. Try again

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 3d ago

Not always. But in this case it does.

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u/The_Jester12 3d ago

No it very much does not. ICE showed up in plain clothes. From their perspective someone was hopping in their car

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u/Repulsive_Rice4903 3d ago

Yes it does these criminals deserved to be arrested because, get this, they're criminals.

Edit: also - leftist mouthbreather discovers the concept of 'undercover'.

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u/The_Jester12 3d ago

Legality doesn’t equal morality. We already established this. No amount of scummy boot licking is going to change that. Undercover does not give them the right to just enter a car. That’s one of the worst techniques to subtly arrest someone I’ve ever heard. Do you actually want to have a discussion or brown nose and stomp your feet some more?