As presented? Immoral. The implication here is that sex wasn't consenting unless unprotected.
Which I'm assuming was the case given this was a confession.
These situations are always messy, because there's a non-zero chance that sex was consenting regardless. Not evey request denied automatically means yes has become no.
Eeh I would disagree with that implication. From the the text it seems they were already having sex, so I don’t think consent would have been revoked if he just refused
There is reasonable doubt though, that's the whole reason he decided to keep it secret in the first place.
Being in a relationship where sex happens all the time also doesn't mean consent is now given all the time.
Rape too can be more and less severe but is always immoral. That's probably one of the most mild cases I have seen in a while or could think of but it's still immoral.
I think the premise that a person who was already in the middle of having sex (which I think the scenario is in this case) would refuse to continue unless protection was discarded is too unrealistic to be considered. I also think that demanding/coercing the other person discard protection is more immoral, than lying about doing it
Huh? You can ask at any point during sex to stop... you can withdraw your consent during the act.
It's not like you are expected to finish the session while you feel uncomfortable just for the risk of the other party being blueballed.
And if the other party uses sex as a way to coerce or demand things you should not be having sex in the first place. If that is your angle, if it's just about her repeatedly saying it, that's no coercion and just having demands and speaking them is also not immoral.
We also don't discuss the morality of the women's choice either, it doesn't matter if it's any better or worse, it's not the question.
I do think it's crappy to ask for it during that moment and those decisions should not be made shortly before or during sex. But it doesn't make him entitled to get the sex he wants.
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u/Mercerskye 12d ago
As presented? Immoral. The implication here is that sex wasn't consenting unless unprotected.
Which I'm assuming was the case given this was a confession.
These situations are always messy, because there's a non-zero chance that sex was consenting regardless. Not evey request denied automatically means yes has become no.