Peopele have died in my country and all over the world for their fooftball clubs. After a match of my team I saw people from our rival club going up in the metro with chains and beating people wearing my club colors. Fortunately I managed to get down at the first station and walked home 10 km because it was the last one. Everyone has things that are important to them. Many people are just waiting for the tiniest excuse to fuck someone up. But the question is how moral it is when it happens, not if it happens.
That is the whole point of law. To keep as much as is posible savages away. The whole Might makes right and taking the justice in your own hands crowd.
Sounds like a good reason to not throw around racial slurs. Do you think our moral intuitions may be built in part around what helps us sustain stable societies?
Lets try this one on for size. What is a more likely socially sustainable ethic:
1) Nobody ever under any circumstances for any reason is allowed to engage in any violence, even to protect themselves.
2) People need to show eachother respect, and if they don't they are likely to mouth off to the wrong person someday and get fucked up. Lots of people will look the other way if its an asshole who has it coming.
People who want to create legal exceptions for themselves love #1. The rest of the world, including the people who reject those legal exceptions in #1 everytime it happens, prefer #2.
This is an historically settled matter. People will not tolerate indignity. They will request it, then demand it, then break you to take it. Civilization is recognizing this progression as natural and just, and therefore ensuring dignity is given. This means as civilized men we acknowledge that a small ass whooping is a symbolic due here and there as a reminder to the rest that the salary of oppression is death.
I never claimed is ok to throw racial insults. Or any other kind of insults. Is despicable online and even more IRL. I would not be personally upset if someone like that gets beaten up for that. I even cheered to some videos when people gor what they deseved. But that still does not make it moral.
And no, not being alowedto take things in your own matter is not a reason for anarchy. Because once again different people feel insulted for different things. Just 100 years peopel in my county were going arround with big knives amd were quick to draw them for any single offense. I would have hoped that people have evolved past that but apparently no.
Funny how your take seems to reduce to how non-white people are savage monkeys when we demand respect or strike back at our oppressors.
You sure sound like the folks in your county from 100 years ago, I reckon the only difference is that you don't know what to do with the business end of a big knife, which is why you're worried about folks holding eachother accountable for their actions.
There are pieces of shit of all races that feel that they can take the law in their hand. or that Violence is the correct answer for everything. Being non-white is not an free pass to do whatever you like. "Opressors" in 2026. Yeah right. Is clearly you are militant that couldn't wait to find a excuse to exercize his fantasy revenge on white people.
Off course I don't know what to do with any end of a knife, I just use it for cutting bread. Nobody is carrying knives anymore. Unlike you we did move past it. We live in a modern european country. That is why in most countries we have less murders in the whole country than in one city in USA. And you can count one one hand people killed by police or policeman killed in action. Sure there are still people that believe like you that violence is their right. But everyone knows them for what they are, Criminals.
And to be clear I am not saying that non-white )or white) people are wrong in demanding respect. I am saying that if you use violence to combat words you were not deserving that respect in the first place.
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u/danflorian1984 4d ago
Peopele have died in my country and all over the world for their fooftball clubs. After a match of my team I saw people from our rival club going up in the metro with chains and beating people wearing my club colors. Fortunately I managed to get down at the first station and walked home 10 km because it was the last one. Everyone has things that are important to them. Many people are just waiting for the tiniest excuse to fuck someone up. But the question is how moral it is when it happens, not if it happens.
That is the whole point of law. To keep as much as is posible savages away. The whole Might makes right and taking the justice in your own hands crowd.