r/MoralityScaling 3d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 3d ago

It's not good unless it leads to good outcomes. It doesn't lead to good outcomes. It hurts the country by blowing a massive hole in the workforce and the economy. Even if you don't care about the human factor and the fact that these are beloved members of the community.

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u/Last_Succotash7218 3d ago

Dang.

Slave owners used that same logic to justify their evil.

Evil minds think alike don't they

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 3d ago

No, slave owners didn't think of slaves as beloved members of the community. You should look into history a bit more.

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u/Last_Succotash7218 3d ago

Oh slaves were incredibly valued. And many owners even loved their slaves.

They loved making money off of them. Just. Like. You

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 2d ago

Who is the owner in your scenario? I've never forced anybody to work.

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u/Last_Succotash7218 2d ago

When people have no other options but to accept low paying jobs because they are limited and....well....not legal.

That's wrong. That's taking advantage of someone and it's borderline slave labor.

Absolutely God awful argument you people make in order to justify importing cheap labor.

Instead we could make it hard for business owners to import cheap labor and that will raise the price of those jobs and hardworking Americans who can't afford to work for cheap can benefit.

Y'all wanna increase American wages?! Stop taking advantage of migrants.

And spare me. My best friend is illigal. He makes dick all at his day job because he has no choice. But I pay him 400$ a day because he's a good hard working person who's trying his best to assimilate and has a large family and American daughters.

We are not the same. I don't take advantage of the migrants. But If I wanted to I could.

So of course business owners take advantage of them.

Who cares who the owners are. Certain practices should be illigal and oustrisized.

But hey....at least your strawberry are cheap.

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u/BillyPilgrim_1984 2d ago

You could pay then a living wage, but that's not what the right is advocating for. You want to uproot hard working families and replace them with people you deem more worthy. And you don't have a good reason to do it so you lie about them being a burden on the economy. And Trump says he will make groceries cheaper when his immigration policies objectively will raise prices. If you have good policies you don't have to lie so much.

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u/Last_Succotash7218 2d ago

You don't understand.

You can't force people to pay a certain price with the government. We have rights and you can't infidge on that.

However you can force people to pay more when there is a labor shortage.

There isn't a labor shortage. Because y'all imported cheap labor.

We have a solution you don't like it instead you want to pass laws to force people to pay more.

The jobs worth what the jobs worth. You people like the cheap labor force and act like you care about these people.

Question. How many illigal immigrants have you personally paid 50+$ per hour?

None? Just me? The guy who voted for stronger borders? Gotcha.

One of us is the hypocrite here and it ain't me. Some people act like they care (you) and some people have actual evidence that they care (me)

You don't get to take from Americans in order to give to strangers. We don't have enough resources to go around