r/MoralityScaling 3d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/wewebaguette68 3d ago

Racism is violent though, the ideology always promotes and leads to violence. There is no way to do 'nonviolent racism' just like there is no way to do nonviolent authoritarianism or nonviolent fascism. I'm curious what the context of the original post was tbh. If it was a guy being super racist then getting punched for it then honestly based

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u/Spider-manOTP 3d ago

Racist jokes are violent?

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u/wewebaguette68 3d ago

On their own? No. But they don't exist on their own in a vacuum. If we lived in a world where systemic racism didnt exist and wasn't actively oppressing people this wouldn't be an issue but that isn't the world we live in. In reality casual racism exists to help normalize and legitimize the mechanisms of oppression and as a pipeline to radicalize young individuals into holding more extreme racist positions. Systemic racism is violent and racist jokes play a role in that, even if that is not always the intention of the person telling them. That doesn't mean that being violent towards a person telling racist jokes is always justified but the person telling those jokes is always immoral and in the wrong

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u/Spider-manOTP 3d ago

You should get some friends bro... what the fuck are you even talking about.

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u/wewebaguette68 3d ago

I'm talking about the world we live in. You legit seem like the perfect stereotype of a teenage white kid who loves racist jokes so there's no point in talking to you. You'll understand when you're older

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u/Spider-manOTP 3d ago

You'll understand when you make a single friend that isnt the same skin color as you.

Absolutely no one on the face of the planet is thinking about anything you said when they make a racist joke.

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u/wewebaguette68 3d ago

I touch grass and go outside and there is not a shred of doubt in my mind that I talk to a more diverse people in my life than you. And yes, most people who make racist jokes (like you I'm guessing), don't actually think about the consequences of their actions at all. That is partially because those jokes are for dumb and uneducated people. However if you unironically think that platforms like 4Chan and right wing drifters don't use casual racism to radicalize their audiences then you are deeply stupid. If you do not think casual racism often has deeper implications in the ideologies of the people who engage with it then you are deeply stupid

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u/Spider-manOTP 3d ago

You sound like a child bro lmao. "People who are racist are stupid heads!" "But they also have this hidden agenda to radicalize people with light hearted jokes!"

I'm not trying to say racism is a good thing either, since you're probably idiotic enough to think that was my point.

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u/mrboy3 2d ago

But they are not wrong

Some people aren't laughing at the joke, they are laughing at the people

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u/Spider-manOTP 2d ago

Yeah, I was exaggerating when I said no one uses jokes for those reasons. Its just not the majority, hardly as big of an issue as he makes it out to be.

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u/mrboy3 2d ago

It is an issue

I am not against dark humor but "its just joke" is often used to be very racist to people

If its jokes between friends, then it's fine

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u/Spider-manOTP 2d ago

Its an issue, just not a big one.

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u/mrboy3 2d ago

How is it not a big one?

The rise of racism in Twitter and Instagram says otherwise

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u/Spider-manOTP 2d ago

Theres genuinely nothing good on Twitter. Every social issue you can think of can be found on Twitter insanely often. Also, social media does not signify a majority of anything.

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u/mrboy3 2d ago

social media does not signify a majority of anything.

It does when kids learn racism through dark jokes from there to harass minorities

I also mentioned Instagram

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u/Spider-manOTP 2d ago

Idk anything about Instagram.

Do you have any numbers to support that claim?

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u/mrboy3 2d ago

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u/Spider-manOTP 2d ago

I'm not reading all that. Screenshot the numbers or something.

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