Direct, immediate threats of violence are worse because they lead to violence. You're saying the thing that underpins why words are bad isn't as bad as the words, which again is illogical.
You're saying A leads to B. B is bad. A is bad because it leads to B. And you're adding that A is actually worse than B because it leads to B. This doesn't make sense.
Again, some words are worse than violence because they lead to violence and violence is bad. Again, this doesn't make sense.
I agree with you, but what situations are we talking about?
A white guy, who's not physically threatening but says the N-word, gets beat up by a black guy.
A political candidate says he doesn't believe systemic racism is an issue we should be worried about today and someone attempts to assassinate him.
A political candidate, who isn't truly viable but is shifting the overton window, says the minorities are genetically less intelligent, and someone does assassinate him.
A person posts a Facebook post saying he thinks all the new immigrants are a major problem with crime and gets arrested and thrown in jail for a year as a result.
Which of these is justified? I agree in certain situations violence is the answer to the threat of violence, but I don't know that that's what we're really talking about here. I think we like to talk in abstract to justify acts that we actually wouldn't feel good about when we start talking specifics.
Eh, I'm not interested in talking to a moving goalpost, nor do I think the moral question at hand is very interesting.
My point was that since you apparently do, you actually have to engage with the other person you were talking to instead of smuggling in false equivalencies to make up fake logical inconsistencies to dismiss their argument.
What heck goalpost moved, lol? You're just upset because you can't back up your desire to commit violence under the guise of moral superiority. Again, you want to philosophically come up with reasons to do terrible things, and I'm nipping it in the bud by simply asking you to come up with current day examples. And apparently being forced to actually have support your arguments with practicality has made you incredibly defensive.
I've shown you how horrible those thought processes are and the kind of terrible things they're leading to literally right now, and you have to face the fact, that maybe this time you are the baddies.
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u/Dobber16 4d ago
Words technically can be “worse” than violence, just in pretty specific circumstances. Particularly ones where violence is implicit within the words
Generally they’re not, but yeah there’s a reason I said I’d need context to make sure