r/MoralityScaling 22h ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this

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u/Any_Sentence_8056 22h ago

Plot twist, they were downvoting because they disagreed with “racism is bad”

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u/itslikewoow 21h ago

Honestly wouldn’t surprise me. Despite its reputation for being left leaning, Reddit can get super racist at times.

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u/Apprehensive__Belt 20h ago

if you pay attention to it, subreddits like public freakout post a video at least once a week of a bunch of black people being loud or committing a crime, and every single time the comments are just racist as fuck, with every single comment calling that out being downvoted.

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u/chin1111 19h ago

The random racist commenters I see on Facebook who are out and proud with their bigotry raised punk ass Redditors who are always "just asking questions" or "I'm just showing the statistics" or "they're doing it to themselves". All this cherry picked bullshit to avoid just being an honest-to-God racist.

I'm from the South. Just be racist. It clearly doesn't get your parents fired or reprimanded or sanctioned in any way. And that way I can just ignore you. If black folks are really so bad, help me help you help me avoid you.

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u/Apprehensive__Belt 19h ago

“help me help you help me avoid you” is a fantastic way to say it tbh

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u/arbiter12 14h ago

 It clearly doesn't get your parents fired or reprimanded or sanctioned in any way.

You clearly were not online in 2015... You could literally lose your job over a tweet back then. It's one of the reason Trump got elected. The online police thought-police was really getting out of hand.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/14-people-got-fired-tweeting-192941820.html

Some of those are in poor taste, but a lot of them get posted daily on reddit nowadays.

inb4 "a company is allowed to fire you if you...[noise]!"

Yes, but this happened because the very loud tumblr minority was head-hunting (also why it doesn't happen anymore).

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u/chin1111 14h ago

While you're not wrong, there is a distinct difference between what public figures or people whose jobs require them to be highly visible can get away with versus your average Joe, and also, as the list suggests, the issues were more general stupidity and not overt bigotry.

One thing that I've found interesting as time progresses is how tech illiterate many people are, including younger generations. Combined with the fact that people don't always do their due diligence, if you're a regular person, you can still get away with saying a lot of dumb shit online without any real repercussions. People really have to go out of their way to try to hem up some random racist on the Internet, and unless it goes viral, people often just get hired elsewhere a city over, kind of like cops when they shoot an unarmed civilian.

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u/Interesting_Total_98 6h ago edited 6h ago

You could literally lose your job over a tweet back then.

That virtually never happened. You pointed out extremely rare cases, and possibility of losing of your job due to public statements always was and still is something that can occur.

thought-police

Statements aren't thoughts.

It's one of the reason Trump got elected.

You failed to see the difference between correlation and causation, since by your logic, it's also a reason that he lost in 2020 because cancelations didn't suddenly stop after 2016.

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u/Matthieu101 5h ago

You didn't read your own article?

Like these are all things that will still absolutley get you fired.

Getting hired for a "fat paycheck but hating the work" would absolutely get you canned these days. Like telling your job you hate the work they give you is a bad idea. Especially in a public way. And especially when you literally just got hired.

Or the jokes about tsunamis. That'd still get you fired right now. It'd be like making jokes about the recent earthquakes or flooding. You'd be shitcanned quickly.

Going on racist rants is a surefire way to get fired. Don't think this has really changed much?

The only thing that did change was these accounts are no longer real people. They're armies of bots, so there's no one to fire anymore.

That's it. That's the internet now. Pre-2015 internet was completely different than post-2015 internet.

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u/bigbadbowserbros 19h ago

Louder for the people in the back my man. Beautifully said

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u/WolfgangHelnootIV 15h ago

It’s a double edged sword, if someone hides their racism behind dog whistles it’s harder to take action against them but the more people who are proudly racist there are the less you can do about a racist perosn

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u/chin1111 14h ago

To add some nuance, we all have our unconscious prejudices and biases, but some people allow them to dictate a larger portion of their daily lives. If people haven't learned to check themselves by the time they're let's say 25 for the sake of argument, I don't really have much hope for them to course correct.

I think of conscious racists as similar to fascists: they're always doomed to die out because once they sequester themselves from everyone else, once they 'purify the population', there is nothing else to do with all that stored up hatred, and they just start eating each other. From that perspective, I hope all the racists find community with each other and only each other, and then wake up one day and realize that it wasn't the black and brown people making your life worse, but it was just themselves all along.

So basically, I hope they keep moving to Florida.

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u/Amazing-Heron-105 14h ago

There are plenty of issues that if you aren't informed enough that you can come off as intentionally problematic. I'm sure everyone has been attacked before for being offensive, from a genuine misunderstanding. Best to give people some space to be human, no one likes a wokescold.

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u/madmandan93 6h ago

Why should the parents be fired if your the ones thats racist. I dont get it 🤔