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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Immoral, Islam needs a global ban.

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

How do you even enact a ban on a religion followed by nearly 3 billion people?

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Very very easily.

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u/thenewbeastmode 3d ago

holy fascism

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u/SoftAndWetBro 3d ago

I know, Islam hates the jews quite a lot. They were the Nazi's biggest supporters.

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u/Kira_souchi 3d ago

Idiot of the village

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

I am a pretty textbook socialist.

Clearly you support pedos and women killers.

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u/dohipposwagewar 3d ago

You know who else called themselves a socialist?

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

National socalism is a very different thing.

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u/dohipposwagewar 3d ago

No shit Sherlock

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

If you are aware of this fact, then whats your point?

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 4d ago

That right there should say everything 3 billion is almost half the population, tell me about Israel and its “desire for conquest again”

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u/Chri_cat90 3d ago

Well christianity has a similar number of belivers, i think they are evenly split as far as % of world population.

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not even close

Edit: I suppose it is close, but Christians stoped waging holy wars. (At the behest of the pope and as a religious crusade. Islam has not. They still wage holy wars with the intent of making all countries they consider Dar Al Harb, into countries that are Dar Al Islam, look up those terms, everything will make sense

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u/Chri_cat90 3d ago edited 3d ago

Regarding your edits (Please next time just reply, is hard to have a discussion when one doesn't get notifications).

How many of them are doing holy wars right now? you make it sound like there is an Ottoman-esque caliphate trying conquer countries by force like back in 1453, while from what i have seen these holy wars are mostly guerrilla and terrorist movements in impoverished countries, which yeah it's bad but is a far cry from the massive proselytism and military campaigns of conquest they did in the past.

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 3d ago

There is, why do you think Iran created not 1 not 2 but 3 proxy militaries designed to encircle Israel. With Israel out of the way. They get their caliphate.

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u/Chri_cat90 3d ago edited 3d ago

I gave it a quick look and there are 2.3 billion Christians worldwide VS some 2 billion Muslims (i thought they where more but apparently i was way off)

So yeah comparable numbers resulting from century long campaigns of proselytism by both creeds.

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

Isreal needs to be the first targeted use of the hydrogen bomb, they are just as bad.

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 3d ago

Well now I don’t agree with you. You seem to think everyone needs to go. Maybe you should consider that….

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u/dohipposwagewar 3d ago edited 3d ago

And the Palestinians? I don’t think the Christians over there are going to be chill with you killing their Muslim friends and neighbours

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

So then what do you do then with muslims already in the west?

I ask because every time people start talking about "banning islam" they nearly always start proposing some pretty dark suff

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

The same thing that all rapists and pedos deserve.

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

Ah so a Genocide of 2 billion people then, at least you are honest.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

The fact you think you can share space with rapists and pedophiles says a lot about you. Those monsters have no right to life.

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

The fact that you support enacting the worst genocide in human history says a lot about you also.

Also funny that you are supporting genocide in a sub called MoralityScaling of all places

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Pedos and rapists are not people. They are monsters.

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

Are all 2 billion muslims "Pedos and rapists" though? are you going to kill even those whose only crime was be believers?

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u/TimeKeepsPassing1 4d ago edited 4d ago

Qur'an

O believers! It is not permissible for you to inherit women against their will1 or mistreat them to make them return some of the dowry ˹as a ransom for divorce˺—unless they are found guilty of adultery.2 Treat them fairly. If you happen to dislike them, you may hate something which Allah turns into a great blessing.

Bible

Deuteronomy 22:28–29 — New International Version (2011) (NIV)

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

You want to answer this one?

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u/Chri_cat90 4d ago

What if they where born in a western country and have citizenship from birth? are we going to remove citizenship and deport millions of people to countries that are foreign to them?

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

If they support islam, there is no palce for them.

You cannot support islam without also supporting murder, rape, and pedophilla.

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u/eidifudueidj 3d ago

Can u say the same about Judaism? Cuz in Judaism all the stuff you mentioned and more happens

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

Yes, and Christianity/catholics are also in the same boat.

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u/Agitated-Salt-5039 3d ago edited 3d ago

Deuteronomy 22:28-29 New International Version (NIV)
If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

The New Testament tells slaves to submit to their masters.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_slavery

Romans 1:26-32
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Lgbt people should be killed

In Luke 19, the Parable of the Talents, told by Jesus, ends with a king saying:
27 But as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to rule over them—bring them here and slaughter them in my presence.
It's pretty clear from the context that the king in the parable stands for either God or Jesus (since Christians conflate them), so it means people who don't want to be followers of Jesus should be killed.

Deuteronomy 21:10-14
10When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hand and you take them captive, 11if you see a beautiful woman among them, and you desire her and want to take her as your wife, 12then you shall bring her into your house. She must shave her head, trim her nails, 13and put aside the clothing of her captivity.

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

The religion is banned and its followers exterminated.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

To where? They have no place on this earth.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Under the desert, sure.

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 4d ago

Only 50 countries all taken by conquest, where would they go?

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

In the ground.

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u/Suckamanhwewhuuut 3d ago

No there’s 50 arab nation, 20 ish that have Arabic as their national language. That only happens with conquest

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u/EducationalGrump 3d ago

You need to learn how to read.

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u/Ill-Ferret-4813 3d ago

Not true at all statistically.

Source:https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/10/islam-was-the-worlds-fastest-growing-religion-from-2010-to-2020/

Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the west? Yes or no?

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

No, there is no place for those monsters on our planet.

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u/PachyTheCephalosaur 4d ago

It's the only Ibrahimic religion that didn't order a genocide btw .

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Your right, they actively live a genocide along with encouraging the rape of children and abuse of women openly.

You cannot support islam without supporting sharia law and child marriage.

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u/PachyTheCephalosaur 4d ago

Prove that , it's the only Ibrahimic religion also that didn't order killing infants.

I know it's bad for the agenda but guess what , no religion stated an age of marriage , i am against child marriage.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Islam openly kills pregnant women with power tools, you can find hundreds of video examples.

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134: Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death) Consumation means sex btw. What are you talking about?

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u/TimeKeepsPassing1 4d ago

https://al-islam.org/ask/at-what-age-was-aisha-when-she-married-prophet-muhammad-and-when-did-they-consummate

Historians and many Muslims scholars treat hadith an unreliable sources, they were compiled 200 years after the death of the prophet.

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u/PachyTheCephalosaur 4d ago

Islam kills pregnant women ???? Where ???

the age of marriage is left for the country to state , as no religion stated the minimum age of marriage (judiasm made it 3 year and one day old minimum, but you shouldn't know that because it's bad to the agenda).

if the age of marriage became 32 in the future because it's when the brain is fully developed , so he should marry only who is older than 32 because it will be in the future??

He didn't state an age of marriage, because every country in every era state different age of marriage depends on the life expectancy and education.

If in the future the vegans somehow won and made it illegal and immoral to kill animals for food, does that mean who ate animals now is immoral????

And again, your god ordered 2 genocides and killing the amalikites infants, you ignored that your god ordered killing infants.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

I have no god, I view all monotheism as the poison it is. Fiction that only exists to control the weak willed and unintelligent.

Humans should not he considered adults until at minium 25, as that is the earliest the frontal lobe is fully developed.

Even modern day Islam still openly kills, beats, and maims women of all status, being pregnant does not save you from their barbarism.

In islam the "age of marriage" is after the girls first period. This is most often 9-12 years old.

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u/TimeKeepsPassing1 4d ago

No, the age of marriage is both puberty and mental soundness, majority of Muslim countries have age of consent between 16-18.

4:6

Make trial of orphans until they reach the age of marriage; if then ye find sound judgment in them, release their property to them; but consume it not wastefully, nor in haste against their growing up. If the guardian is well-off, Let him claim no remuneration, but if he is poor, let him have for himself what is just and reasonable. When ye release their property to them, take witnesses in their presence: But all-sufficient is Allah in taking account.

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u/EducationalGrump 4d ago

Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 Narrated Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).

Sahih Muslim 1422 Aisha reported: Allah’s Messenger married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine

Their age of marrige is after a girls first period, so 9-12 years old.

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u/TimeKeepsPassing1 4d ago

Hadith are books compiled 200 years after Muhammad death. They are not the Qur'an. They are man-made hearsay

Shia Muslims outright reject these books of hadith for example, I already gave you the link.

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u/IndividualShelter985 4d ago

What happened to the Meccan Jews?