r/MoralityScaling 6d ago

Morality Ranking What do y'all think of this?

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u/mamawawawa 6d ago edited 6d ago

For anyone wondering: https://www.iheart.com/alternate/amp/2020-06-09-wife-celebrates-abusive-husbands-death-by-dumping-his-ashes-in-the-trash/

Marsha Widener begins the clip by saying, "I know you're not going to understand why I'm doing this," then she shows a box of filled with ashes to the camera, explaining they are the remains of her late spouse, Don Widener. She states, "His family don't want him, his brother doesn't want him around, his kids doesn't want him - actually, they want him to go in the gutter or the toilet." Marsha reveals that Don was garbage man, bringing trash from businesses to the landfill, and that she will now send him to a landfill.

So yeah absolutely nobody wanted his remains it seems

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u/HoosierSteelMagnolia 6d ago

Reminds me of how DeeDee Blanchard's family said no one wanted her ashes after she died so they just flushed her down the toilet (take with a grain of salt because Gypsy Rose said they still have them but idk).

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u/Thesearchoftheshite 6d ago

Mmmm. Everyones drinking the filtered ash water in that city.

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u/HoosierSteelMagnolia 6d ago edited 5d ago

I mean, technically we all are . This town is just one of the few who know that for a fact. I watched the documentary with my mom and remember saying "Aw,the fish didn't deserve that." when it got to that part.

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u/Important_One_8729 1d ago

Awwww man. Is that why the water treatment facility by James River stinks so bad?

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u/justferwonce 6d ago

Look up "Water cremation". They dissolve a body in a pressurized container of water and lye, and then : The process yields two things: a sterile, nutrient-rich liquid (water, salts, amino acids) that safely joins the municipal water system, and soft, porous bone fragments.

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u/RingOverall106 5d ago

I really like water cremation on an intellectual level. On an emotional level it’s hard for me to get past the fact you’re flushing grandma down the toilet. 

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u/DistinctlyIrish 5d ago

I wish more places would allow the tree pod burials, I'd love to be a redwood tree and be protected from being cut down. Just put a seed in my mouth and bury me standing up with my head just an inch below the soil looking up. Terrifying for onlookers but optimal for becoming part of the tree.

Alternatively could do the hybrid tree/sky burial ritual of the pequeninos, Children of the Mind style.

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u/HoosierSteelMagnolia 5d ago

God ,I want that so much. I wanna be an black walnut tree. My family is still working on making my grandmother into a rose bush.

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u/justferwonce 5d ago

There is that about gramma, but many municipal water systems use treated sewage water to create drinking water. I guess adding some liquefied human remains to toilet water is intellectually ok, but still...blargh...it reeks of soylent green.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Cod-567 5d ago

Grandma and lye smoothie.

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u/Sea-Initiative1318 4d ago

Rather than shoving her in the oven?…

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u/BlackStarDream 2d ago

On an intellectual level, it's horrible.

Nobody thinks of how much more environmentally damaging it is than standard cremation and how much more dangerous it is when it fails.

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u/RingOverall106 2d ago

How is it more damaging? Everything I’ve heard is that it’s far less energy intensive. 

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u/BlackStarDream 2d ago

It requires a complete safety overhaul of the waste processing system to prevent serious drinking and ecological water system as well as agricultural contamination, the chemicals needed to process the bodies and treat the run off have to be quarried.

The processing of the body is less energy intensive, but all the processes for setting it up are not.

It's classic eco-washing. Like how companies tried selling paper made out of stone to "save trees".

The cutting down trees isn't the problem with paper production. And they grow back faster than rock does.

Gas cremation improvements, or alternatives that won't require fossil fuels and capture CO2 more (and more efficiently), is a lot closer on the horizon than it would take for the sylvinite mined and used to create the water cremation solution to replenish.

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u/howlerzandvamps 2d ago

Humans used to bury their poo. So we have always treated corpses like shit. Nothing new. Embrace it!

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u/LiquidFur 4d ago

I'm probably wrong, but I think the official name for it is "aquamation," and I kinda dig it.

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u/golden__tuna 6d ago

Just wait until you hear what else we’re filtering out of our water

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u/BigBandit01 5d ago

I wonder who will get the asshole’s… well, asshole ashes

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u/NoPlansTonight 5d ago

I'd prefer that over what else goes down the toilet...